Townhall Meeting Log

It's been a few weeks since the Townhall Meeting and since a log was announced but not posted, I thought it might be best to take matters into my own hands. Since I wasn't present the whole time, the last few hours have their timestamps a bit off, but I doubt that will be a bit problem.

[14:00] <LuluSWM>
[14:00] <@fatmanmedia> this meeting will be logged and i'll post the log after the meeting ends
[14:00] <LuluSWM> Ok, thanks njae
[14:01] <LuluSWM> Does that mean, I have to be careful what I'm writing from now on? D:
[14:01] <@fatmanmedia> not anymore than you normally do
[14:02] <@fatmanmedia> so who wants to start
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[14:03] <njae> wb Anon
[14:04] <AnonSWMmobile> Thanks
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[14:06] <AnonSWMmobile> Hi Castor
[14:06] <@fatmanmedia> hi castor
[14:06] <LuluSWM> Welcome castor!
[14:06] <castor__> morning
[14:07] <castor__> where were we?
[14:08] <AnonSWMmobile> Nowhere right now
[14:08] <@fatmanmedia> just started, not discussed anything yet, you want kick it off
[14:10] <@fatmanmedia> *to kick
[14:11] <castor__> So how does that idea for a choose your own adventure theme sound?
[14:11] <castor__> i mean storry
[14:11] <AnonSWMmobile> You mean regarding the SWMU
[14:12] <castor__> it was circus cups idea
[14:14] <@fatmanmedia> i think it would work
[14:14] <castor__> There tricky to do well, but i agree
[14:14] <AnonSWMmobile> I don't think it would work. When I introduced the idea of a theme was to give the setting a unified vision,at least in the brginning, a choose thene would destroy it
[14:15] <castor__> you have a point.
[14:16] <njae> The "Choose your own adventure" could work by itself, but as Anon said, the multiple ways a story can go make it unfit to be combined with the SWMU
[14:18] <castor__> maybe we should keep it seperate, or use it as a setting-but like later down the road.
[14:18] <AnonSWMmobile> That is a possibility
[14:19] <castor__> If this gets off i do like the idea of like kickers to a degree-doing stuff, not now but like 6 months from now to keep the story going
[14:20] <castor__> the special police department etc
[14:22] <AnonSWMmobile> In general the theme isn't set in stone. It should change with the story, but be carefully monitored
[14:23] <castor__> Right. This will be fun.
[14:24] <castor__> though "Fun" itself isn't the theme, but we perhaps hope for "fun" so thematically it ties in.
[14:25] <AnonSWMmobile> TBH Castor sometimes I have impression that you should learn how to walk before running
[14:28] <@fatmanmedia> when do you think we should launch the SWMU?
[14:28] <AnonSWMmobile> I mean you have tons of great ideas, but you tend to put them out in a chaotic way
[14:29] <@fatmanmedia> that's the best way to put out ideas
[14:29] <@fatmanmedia> some will stick and some will not
[14:30] <castor__> Well I try
[14:30] <AnonSWMmobile> But not of building a setting. That need some structure
[14:30] <@fatmanmedia> chaos is always fun
[14:31] <njae> I agree with Anon, there has to be some structure or even the best ideas will be counterproductive if placed in a wrong way
[14:34] <castor__> My stories at least have fairly elaborate strutctures- i mean looking at tales of an mazing girl i have three seperate "Books" or seasons of it ploted out, and loose notes for a fourth if i keep it up-yet its basic theme is the kind of chaotic story about a young woman life and how it devolops
[14:34] <AnonSWMmobile> That's the point even before starting to brainstorm ideas, we should get some bits down clearly. Mostly the scopes and limits of our setting
[14:36] <AnonSWMmobile> Which is fine Castor, my point is that we didn't even defined the fpundations of SWMU, but rather dive into the later stages stuff
[14:36] <AnonSWMmobile> We have a bunch of ideas floating into the void mostly
[14:37] <@fatmanmedia> so to repeat my question, when do you fell that the SWMU will be ready for launch???
[14:37] <@fatmanmedia> *feel
[14:37] <AnonSWMmobile> Not soon.
[14:38] <AnonSWMmobile> There's still much to do.
[14:38] <castor__> not really. anon-i think the ideas we have are mostly pretty good and unifed. i think maybe have gone into some tangents, but we ideas for like power limits, time of setting the first story, the themes down
[14:39] <castor__> looking at the forrum i think a lot of things are there.
[14:39] <castor__> i guess the next question is what then what do we need?
[14:42] <castor__> lets be specific
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[14:43] <AnonSWM1> My guess is that now we - or rathet you, since I have no real authority on this matter - should work out a foundation docoment
[14:44] <AnonSWM1> What is usually called a series bible
[14:46] <castor__> Heres a question:
[14:47] <castor__> becuse i have dealt with series bibles before in TV and stuff-never written one but read several. the question that tends to come up a lot in them- usually the first section.
[14:47] <castor__> what kind of characters do people want to play.
[14:48] <castor__> Most drama tends to be the interplay of two characters.
[14:50] <AnonSWM1> That was the point that Njae was trying to get through ad if lately: having a setting filled with nothing but flying bricks and no reak variety
[14:52] <castor__> Well beyond that....characters aren't just lists of powers..
[14:53] <castor__> i think actualy your ideas for power frame work work pretty well anon
[14:54] <castor__> but what kind of characters do people want to start wih
[14:54] <njae> isn't that for them to decide?
[14:54] <castor__> obviously.
[14:55] <castor__> But well were here, and i know at least some of us want to RP as well.
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[15:02] <njae> now it seems like a bad time for Anons connection to go bad
[15:02] <@fatmanmedia> does anyone have links to series bibles that can be used as a example
[15:03] <castor__> leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Origi...Writer%27s_Guide.pdf
[15:03] <castor__> this is the bible to star trek.
[15:06] <LuluSWM>
[15:08] <castor__> its a fun read, i am taking a look over it now
[15:08] <@fatmanmedia> i can now see what you are talkign about
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[15:10] <AnonSWM|mobile> Okay I hope to be back for good
[15:10] <njae> tbh I have had a few ideas for characters so far, but wanted to wait for the final rules before I considered which would fit. Fact is I come up with the characters as I write their story instead of preparing everything in advance
[15:10] <njae> wb Anon
[15:11] <castor__> i am not sure if you just saw the last bit but i put a link to the writers guide for star trek
[15:11] <castor__> leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Origi...Writer%27s_Guide.pdf
[15:11] <@fatmanmedia> i think the creation of a bible should be a priority
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[15:13] <castor___> sorry my system crashed
[15:13] <njae> np
[15:15] <castor___> i think we have a lot of the stuff ready for the series bible or at least can use them.
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[15:16] <castor___> that was the ghost me.
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[15:17] <castor___> hi agian
[15:17] <AnonSWM1> I hate my phone
[15:18] <njae> bad reception
[15:18] <AnonSWM1> Pretty much
[15:19] <njae> was that way for me for most of the week
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[15:22] <castor___> so: To use the star trek format here is what the story bible contains : 1. the format of the story, 2. the structure of the story(in that case the act breaks etc), 3. the setting of the story(in this case the enterprise), 4. the characters, 5. the standing sets,6 questions and anwsers.
[15:23] <AnonSWM1> Sort of
[15:24] <AnonSWM1> Clearly some of the basics would evolve
[15:25] <castor___> In star trek to a degree the important thing which roddenberry outlined(which i have read here and elsewhere)-he wanted this to be a "miltary story in space." thats the basic logline
[15:28] <camillejones> I guess this might a good time as any to announce this. School and work is pretty much taking a toll in my life. Not to mention that I don't feel I have contributed anything to the SWMU and my interests are rather waning. So, effective immediately, I renounce my position as a Mod.
[15:28] <@fatmanmedia> i'm sad to see you go
[15:28] <castor___> I hope you can write stuff for it.
[15:33] <castor___> To go back to star trek-by saying the show was a miltary setting in space it does limit the story, but it gave it a clean hook that audiences could understand.
[15:34] <@fatmanmedia> yeah
[15:37] <castor___> I mean if ours to a degree sounds like this " group of people discover they have superpowers, what do they do with them"
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[15:38] <@fatmanmedia> hi lindsay
[15:38] <castor___> Hey !!! welcome
[15:38] <LindsayS> Hi all~!
[15:38] <njae> hi LindsayS
[15:39] <AnonSWM1> Hi Lin
[15:39] <camillejones> Hi Linds
[15:40] <castor___> Where talking about doing kind of a story bible for the universe
[15:40] <castor___> i was using the comparision to the show Star Trek
[15:40] <castor___> leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Origi...Writer%27s_Guide.pdf
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[15:43] <LindsayS> That sounds helpful~
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[15:44] <castor___> the knd of logline i was working with lindsay- " group of people discover they have superpowers, what do they do with them"
[15:44] <AnonSWM|mobile> Stupid connection
[15:44] <castor___> in star trek they used a kind of miltary setting to make the basic science fiction understandable.
[15:45] <castor___> in our story -i am guessing-its a city, with lots of people and things people can relate to
[15:46] <AnonSWM|mobile> Which is kind of the problem
[15:47] <castor___> how so?
[15:48] <AnonSWM|mobile> How many of our contributors would like to play that kind of chacter?
[15:50] <LuluSWM> What kind of character?
[15:50] <castor___> I donno peter parker is a recognizable human character-hes kind of evoloved into an average man trying to make a living in a big city. Even some one like Bruce Wayne is a wealthy millionare, but he still lives in a city
[15:53] <castor___> There are exceptions in comics but most characters are kind of "I am a person- i have superpowers, but i am a person"
[15:54] <castor___> They have done stories where Superman Goes to macdonalds.
[15:55] <AnonSWM|mobile> Since Cam's announcement didn't stir te pot nearly enough, I have something to say myself: given that the SWMU hss lost two contributors I would like to know how thibg will evolve now
[15:57] <castor___> I am trying to be hopeful about it.
[15:58] <castor___> your right it needs a lot of work, but a thousand mile journey begins with a single step, and continues with a single step
[16:00] * camillejones is going out for a bi. I'll be back later.
[16:00] <AnonSWM|mobile> Castor this is the problem. I'm just a consultant and now both Cam and Njae are out of the picture
[16:02] <njae> Which brings me to a question: Why was I removed from the staff? The mail didn't specify a reason behind that
[16:02] <AnonSWM|mobile> Nor did the PM
[16:08] <camillejones> Indeed.
[16:11] <njae> I mean the only "reason" given was that my "involvement isn't working out as intended" but since I did my best to participate in the discussion and can't claim myself to have been the least active member there (no offense intended here)
[16:11] <LuluSWM> I saw what you did there....
[16:11] <njae> as I said no offense intended
[16:11] <njae> but I can't follow that argument
[16:13] <njae> unfortunately I have to go for a bit as well, will be gone for about 30-45min
[16:13] * njae still idles in the chat though
[16:15] <castor___> I have to idle for like 20 minutes here. I am having waffles for breakfast
[16:15] <LuluSWM> Well I need to go as well. Have to work, but will be back around 10-11pm
[16:15] <LuluSWM> Mmh...waffles
[16:15] <@fatmanmedia> i didn't feel that njae's involvement was working out, i felt that njae's involvement was not helping
[16:18] <LuluSWM> Well I will try to keep neutral here to be honest....
[16:18] <@fatmanmedia> as i said int eh pm to njae it's not personal
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[16:21] <LuluSWM> Hi Geekseven
[16:21] <AnonSWM|mobile> Hi G7
[16:21] <@fatmanmedia> hi g7
[16:22] <LuluSWM> Ok, like I said, I will be back in a few hours. See you!
[16:22] <GeekSeven> Hi all.
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[16:23] <@fatmanmedia> so to bring g7 up to speed we have been talkign about the idea of creating a series bible for the SWMU
[16:24] <@fatmanmedia> some thing like leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Origi...Writer%27s_Guide.pdf
[16:24] <@fatmanmedia> it's was castors idea
[16:24] <AnonSWM|mobile> And the reasons behind njae's being moved out of the team
[16:25] <GeekSeven> I think a series bible is a good idea. In fact I think it's essential if the SWMU is going to work.
[16:26] <@fatmanmedia> i' agree g7
[16:29] <AnonSWM|mobile> Fats can I ask you what do you think a SWMU cpntributor should provide?
[16:30] <@fatmanmedia> a viewpoint that helps move the project idea forward
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[16:31] <@fatmanmedia> on the matter of njae's removal, i felt that he was not moving the project forward, i'm going to be quite hard here and say that it's not up for discussion as it's not helping the purpose of the today's meeting
[16:32] <@fatmanmedia> wb castor
[16:32] <castor__> glad to be back
[16:32] <castor__> had to restart, did i miss anything?
[16:33] <@fatmanmedia> just g7 agreeing with you on the serties bible idea
[16:33] <@fatmanmedia> *series
[16:34] <AnonSWM|mobile> Maybe it's just me but so far the discussion between dru and njae is the only thing moving the project forward
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[16:35] <@fatmanmedia> hi the
[16:35] <Guest57870> Hi eve3ryone, how are things going?
[16:35] <castor__> hi!
[16:35] <@fatmanmedia> hi guest57870
[16:36] <Guest57870> it's The Highlander, I has some problems with the chat
[16:37] <castor__> We've had problems to but its good to see you:)
[16:37] <@fatmanmedia> indeed
[16:38] <GeekSeven> Okay, heading out for a bit. Going to try leaving the connection open.
[16:38] <castor__> Dru can be a little opinated, but he does mean well, and he did tell me that he never intended to hurt anyones feeling.
[16:38] <Guest57870> what's happend so far?
[16:39] <@fatmanmedia> so to bring the highlander up to speed, we are talking about he idea for a series bible for the SWMU something like leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Origi...Writer%27s_Guide.pdf
[16:39] <castor__> I have talked to him about NJAE before and hes told me how much he respects him as a writer and a storyteller.
[16:40] <castor__> As do I- i think we have a lot of talented writers here.
[16:40] <@fatmanmedia> i agree
[16:41] <Guest57870> good idea, probably best to keep it fairly general (so these still room for people to do their own thing)
[16:42] <@fatmanmedia> yep
[16:44] <castor__> The Meteor adventure stories are a very fun take on the "women gets superpower stories"-to a degree there kind of useful idea for the story
[16:47] <castor__> lindsay and highlander-what kind of stories do you want to tell?
[16:47] <Guest57870> well I don't realy have the time or dedication to write much
[16:48] <Guest57870> which is why most of my conrabutions have been morphs
[16:48] <castor__> still helpful:)
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[16:51] <@fatmanmedia> i can see a strong RP element developing within the SWMU
[16:52] <castor__> I agree
[16:55] <castor__> i guess my point is we kind of devolop a framework which people generally understand-a city. We don't need to devolop each little thing, becuse people generally know what a city is. We kind of create characters in the city-who happen to be supergirls.
[16:57] <castor__> They talk, they punch..
[16:57] <castor__> They RP
[17:02] <Guest57870> the slight problem is that there would have to be some sort of limits, outerwise given the power level of some of the charicters on this site there wouldn't be much left of the city (or planet)
[17:04] <castor__> we have talked about that extensivly in private message group-anon has some goode ideas about a kind of framework. Basically people get a certain number of big powers, and a certain number of small powers. We don't want just flying bricks going through the city. We also want to have some characters who are moderator controled who act as wardens
[17:04] <LindsayS> I like that idea~ (Just chiming in. ^^)
[17:06] <@fatmanmedia> maybe we need to look at the mod threads, see if they can go to the general discussions section
[17:07] <castor__> i think thats a good diea-i think the story bible can kind of be that distilled
[17:08] <castor__> but if we want to bring some of the discussions public that works to
[17:09] <@fatmanmedia> how about moving some of what has been dissused in the mod threads and forming the basics of a bible from that
[17:09] <@fatmanmedia> then make the bible public
[17:10] <castor__> yeah
[17:10] <Guest57870> sounds good
[17:11] <castor__> I think another very basic question is: What is the format of the story. i mean are they stories in the library, or they part of the discussion chat.
[17:11] <castor__> how long is a good one, Etc
[17:12] <@fatmanmedia> good question
[17:12] <@fatmanmedia> RP in the forum an dstories in the library
[17:12] <@fatmanmedia> *and stories
[17:13] <castor__> do we distill rp into stories? ie kind of put it together?
[17:13] <@fatmanmedia> if that is wanted by the initiator of the RP, yes
[17:16] <castor__> How complete should stories be? ie do they have beggining middles in the end, or should they kind of have a clifhanger feel for the next writer.
[17:18] <castor__> i mean these are basic questions but star trek is a four act drama:)
[17:19] <@fatmanmedia> you could have one shot RP pieces and RP series that could be built on to forum their own subset so both could be done
[17:20] <castor__> thats a good idea
[17:24] <@fatmanmedia> highlander you up for being involved in the SWMU
[17:24] <castor__> RP can be fairly short-to what extent say can someone rp with someone and say- "She nods"
[17:32] <@fatmanmedia> we can play it by a case by case, no point in setting too hard a rule on that
[17:34] <castor__> okay
[17:35] <Guest57870> maybe, I'll see what time I have and if I can come up with any good ideas
[17:35] <castor__> Where open to it
[17:35] <castor__> here to help you devolop them if you want any help.
[17:35] <Guest57870> thanks
[17:36] <castor__> The mods can also act as soapbox characters if you want-say "Your sick aunt may who you have to keep your tremendious might from:)" in rp
[17:36] <Guest57870> also, has there been any more movemnt on doing a image compation alongside the writing ones?
[17:38] <castor__> not really-but i would be open not so much as competition but kind of visualization. heres a scene we write about in visual form
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[17:49] <castor__> I am back
[17:49] <@fatmanmedia> wb
[17:49] <castor__> i am sorry but there was a cat that needed petting
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[17:50] <@fatmanmedia> np
[17:51] <castor__> wb njae, glad to have you
[17:52] <njae> back ... uhm how did you see me coming?
[17:52] <njae> oh nvm, my phone was quicker then me
[17:53] <castor__> magic:)
[17:54] <njae> yeah I noticed, my phone logged back in when I came withing WiFi range
[17:55] <castor__> where discussing kind of principals of how the story oeprates-rp in the threats, stories in the main story section
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[17:57] <castor__> hey!
[17:57] <njae> still trying to read through the log to find the answer to my previous question
[17:57] <ong76win2> Hello everyone. Sorry for coming in just now. I think you heard what happened to my country, The Philippines. It is all over the news. So sad to see alot of damage in our neighboring islands.
[17:58] <njae> hi ong
[17:58] <castor__> yeah, glad your alright
[17:58] <njae> yeah glad to hear from you
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[18:00] <@fatmanmedia> i'm glad that you are ok as well ong
[18:01] <ong76win2> Thanks fats, njae, castor
[18:02] <ong76win2> The winds is really really strong. I can hear it howl a bit.
[18:02] <ong76win2> Did you see the devastation it brought?
[18:03] <castor__> Yeah.
[18:03] <@fatmanmedia> yep
[18:03] <castor__> its a big story here in america
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[18:04] <ong76win2> Our neighboring island city of Tacloban is 80 to 90% destroyed.
[18:04] <ong76win2> Big story there in America?
[18:05] <castor__> Yeah its on the tv news new the newsppaper-
[18:05] <ong76win2> I live in Cebu City, Cebu Island. Our northern tip which is about 3 to 4 hours drive from my city was also badly hit. No communication, power.
[18:06] <ong76win2> We were lucky that we were not hit directly.
[18:07] <castor__> Hope it stays that way
[18:07] <ong76win2> Our power came back almost 24 hours after. We have some damage but only minimal unlike Tacloban City which was really devastated.
[18:09] <ong76win2> If I were asked to go over to our neighboring island, I would. But as of now, it is too dangerous because of looting and lawlessness.
[18:11] <ong76win2> It is so heart breaking to see my fellow countrymen suffer.
[18:13] <castor__> no the feeling
[18:13] <castor__> know the feeling
[18:13] <@fatmanmedia> bbc news is reporting over 10,000 dead
[18:14] <ong76win2> www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2496954...l-storm-history.html
[18:15] <ong76win2> Try checking that link. It got pictures and videos. I live in Cebu City.
[18:19] <castor__> 235 miles an hour wow
[18:24] <ong76win2> Yes. See the pictures? Heartbreaking.
[18:25] <@fatmanmedia> yep
[18:29] <castor__> but glad your here and safe
[18:33] <ong76win2> Thanks fats and castor
[18:34] <ong76win2> By the way fats, what is the meaning of @ before your name here?
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[18:45] <castor__> this can be a very quiet meeting
[18:46] <castor__> so ong-how do you want to get involved with this?
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[18:51] <castor__> hey
[18:51] <swmjimbob> I'm here I'm here
[18:51] <camillejones> back for a bit
[18:51] <swmjimbob> I missed all the good stuff didn't I
[18:52] <camillejones> Also, Lindsay, I think you should be the first warden of SWMU.
[18:53] <castor__> where just talking about what we want in like a story bible...
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[18:54] <njae> still connection problems, Anon?
[18:54] <AnonSWMmobile> Yes the battery is low
[18:54] <swmjimbob> story bible?
[18:55] <castor__> glad your here
[18:55] <camillejones> And I have a birthday to attend to in a few
[18:55] <camillejones> Also, hi Ong. Glad you are doing okay.
[18:55] <castor__> we have been working on like the framework of the story-the setting, the powers etc of cape hope-and putting it together into like a file
[18:56] <swmjimbob> ooooooooooooooh
[18:57] <@fatmanmedia> hi jimbob
[18:57] <@fatmanmedia> ong the @ sign means i'm room admin
[18:58] <swmjimbob> so you have the POWER
[18:59] <@fatmanmedia> yep
[19:00] <castor__> I think to summerize quickly-we anon came up with some good power frameworks, so everyone doesn;t just play flying bricks, also where going to have warden characters who wil only act if characters threaten to destroy the city or the planet, and talked a bit about rp in discusions and putting them into stories in the library.
[19:00] <castor__> other question
[19:00] <castor__> is there going to be like a tab for swm stories-like for contest stories
[19:00] <@fatmanmedia> the idea of a bible to set the framework in plce
[19:01] <@fatmanmedia> *place
[19:01] <camillejones> Okay, the threaten part should not warrant the use of a warden.
[19:01] <castor__> you have a point camile
[19:01] <castor__> threatening is fine-was just sumerizing quickly:)
[19:04] <camillejones> Yep
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[19:04] <castor__> i guess i still am very curious-what kind of characters people want to make-
[19:05] <camillejones> Well, you won't have to worry about me because I think it'll be best for me not to go into the SWMU.
[19:06] <castor__> thats to bad
[19:07] <castor__> your a great writer and your great at making living breathing characters
[19:07] <camillejones> Thanks castor, you too.
[19:08] <castor__> even if your not a mod if you have any time it would be fun to see what you could come up with something who isn't sollaris
[19:08] <castor__> even if your not a mod if you have any time it would be fun to see what you could come up with something who isn't sollaris
[19:08] <castor__> but life.
[19:08] <castor__> i know it wel
[19:10] <castor__> have a fun birthday party:)
[19:11] <camillejones> Thanks Castor
[19:11] <castor__> jimbob- i showed people this leethomson.myzen.co.uk/Star_Trek/1_Origi...Writer%27s_Guide.pdf
[19:11] <njae> let's hope it'll be a bigger birthday party than the one I visited yesterday
[19:12] <camillejones> In unrelated news though, I'm done with the first chapter outline of Invasion and I have plans on working on her Origins and possibly rebooting some things as well.
[19:12] <camillejones> The plights of an ever-evolving character and a fickle author.
[19:13] <castor__> well thats the fun of writing.
[19:14] <njae> hehe yeah, I rediscovered mine recently as well
[19:17] <castor__> hows michelle coming?
[19:18] <@fatmanmedia> anon, cam and njae, check your pm's
[19:20] <njae> Part 12 is in beta reading status, there may be a few tweaks to do as it's one of the longest chapters not to mention the first with an actual uber fight
[19:20] <njae> Part 13 however is only 1600 words in, didn't have much time to write last week
[19:20] <castor__> well you know that sometimes how it works-a big fight rest, big fight rest
[19:21] <camillejones> So far Part 12 is good for me.
[19:23] <swmjimbob> yeah I've seen that guide castor
[19:23] <njae> well, there's this one conversation I probably have to tweak a bit, at least Anon had left a few notes there
[19:26] <castor__> i am curious if anyone whould like to take a look at one of the chapters for mazing girl. i want some more eyes on it, though i am not going to publish it until january
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[19:27] <LindsayS> (Just got back, reading to catch up on this~)
[19:27] <njae> I have to admit that you post them quicker than I can read them castor
[19:28] <camillejones> Wb Linds
[19:28] <castor__> Well part of the challenge of that for me was just to write a very regular story- really get into it
[19:28] <camillejones> And yeah, Castor you should tone down the amount of posts you do.
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[19:29] <njae> btw I could use another native speaker as a beta reader tbh
[19:29] <camillejones> I think I honestly stopped reading after IV or V because there was just too many chapters
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[19:30] <castor__> hmmm
[19:30] <anonswmmobile> Okay I'm very sorry for poping in and out, but I have connection problems
[19:30] <camillejones> It's okay Anon. Check your pms when you get a chance.
[19:30] <njae> np anon
[19:31] <@fatmanmedia> one unrelated question, what does everyone thingk about the "just ask jess" feature
[19:31] <camillejones> Also, Lindsay, what do you think about being the first warden of SWMU?
[19:31] <castor__> its cute fats
[19:31] <camillejones> Ummm, I think it's cool fats but I'm rather indifferent to it personally.
[19:31] <LindsayS> Hm. What would that mean~?
[19:32] <camillejones> Basically be the 'end all be all' goddess that intervenes if things go way out of hand.
[19:33] <castor__> The heathers effect stuff i was never into but there cute and well done little videos
[19:33] <LindsayS> Oh my!
[19:35] <castor__> if you can read my stuff as a writer-i like mystuff with a little humor, and there good videos for that
[19:35] <camillejones> Well, you wanted to be super, right?
[19:36] <LindsayS> Well, yeah... ^^;;
[19:37] <castor__> and i have gone to one story a week for mazing girl. i plan to finish the current book up like around march, then take a break-maybe for the second batch i want to do latter next year i'll do bi weekly.
[19:37] <castor__> its great responsibility lindsay
[19:37] <castor__> *bi monthly i mean*
[19:37] <anonswmmobile> Castor just how in hell do you manage it?
[19:39] <LindsayS> Right. I wouldn't want to let anyone down~
[19:39] <anonswmmobile> As for Lin as first warden, this might push the plans back a bit
[19:40] <njae> If I understood correctly, you can still have an "actual" character for yourself
[19:41] <castor__> There not that long-i can write a good one in a couple of hours, then go back and give it an edit in a couple of days latter-have dru edit-its a fun story to write. Mazing just a fun deeply flawed character
[19:42] <anonswmmobile> I don't mean any disrespect, but being the watden is a big deal. Lin, do you think you're up to it.
[19:42] <anonswmmobile> Castor, I'm so envious
[19:43] <LindsayS> I see Anon's point. I'm still pretty new around here... and I wouldn't want to mess it up
[19:43] <njae> me too, that writing speed was kinda lost once I was done studying
[19:43] <castor__> Yeah the wardens goal is to come down only when the world is about to end-the rest of the time you play something else.
[19:43] <anonswmmobile> Or rather when some suthor mess up
[19:44] <camillejones> Hey, you guys wanted a supergirl for the warden's role and since I'm out, what better person to do it than Lindsay.
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[19:46] <swmjimbob> but it also sounds like she can't just have fun supering it up in non crisis situtations too.
[19:46] <camillejones> Well, that is what her other character is for
[19:47] <anonswmmobile> That's true Cam, but I'm just a bit concerned about non-super issues
[19:48] <camillejones> Truth. Though I do think that there is something awesome about a goddess just casually sitting at a coffee shop, enjoying a latte and watching the world around her go by.
[19:48] <anonswmmobile> I can quote you on that
[19:48] <njae> personally I always thought that the warden(s) wouldn't need to be linked to one player specifically as the wardens are more the tools than the main characters
[19:49] <castor__> Well thats kind of the fun of this.
[19:49] <castor__> all the characters are godesses really
[19:49] <camillejones> Heh, you might have too.
[19:49] <anonswmmobile> That's a good point Njae. Wardens should be above the situation somehow
[19:50] <castor__> but they drink cofee to
[19:51] <anonswmmobile> All are goddess is kind of my problem with this setting
[19:52] <camillejones> Okay, mostly metahumans and maybe one or two goddesses?
[19:52] <anonswmmobile> I fear that we will have all supergirls and no context
[19:52] <castor__> well i mean godess i mean godess in the figuritive sence-all superheroines are kind of godesess, epic heros
[19:53] <LindsayS> I like the SWMU idea. I'd be glad to help however people want me to~
[19:53] <castor__> they fly above the city(figuritively) but kind of interact with it.
[19:53] <anonswmmobile> My point remains. Often what makes a story work is the support cast
[19:55] <camillejones> Like a good cop in a city full of corrupt or bought out ones?
[19:55] <anonswmmobile> That and so on
[19:55] <castor__> Yeah, or the reporter for the newspaper, or the little girl who is the heros biggest fans, or the friendly barista who gives them cofee
[19:56] <castor__> The wardens are kind of the mysterious figures who hide in the distance but don't really interact.
[19:57] <anonswmmobile> Exactly my worry is that there will be too many protagonists without supporting cast
[19:58] <@fatmanmedia> i'm just having some nice coffee at the moment
[19:58] <anonswmmobile> Which would make the whole setting kind of dull
[19:58] <swmjimbob> wait
[19:58] <swmjimbob> stop
[19:58] <swmjimbob> back up
[19:59] <swmjimbob> exactly what is this SWMU anyway? I thought it was just a seperate story universe but thats not what I'm hearing
[19:59] <LindsayS> I'd be happy to play a more minor super, with maybe one or two powers, in the RP. And be a fan of the more powerful ones~
[19:59] <anonswmmobile> It is supposed to be a shared universe for multiple authors to use
[20:00] <castor__> a couple of weeks ago we came up with some shared characters in the mod thread. will put those in the bible. will free however to come up with some more as it goes along.
[20:00] <camillejones> Linds, maybe you like to be in the morally grey but be a fan of the powerful big heroines?
[20:00] <anonswmmobile> Lin for some reason that sounds a bit narcisistic
[20:01] <LindsayS> All right, I'm starting to think this SWMU thing isn't for me~ I'm sorry to offend
[20:02] <castor__> thats to bad.
[20:02] <anonswmmobile> Why?
[20:02] <LindsayS> Don't wanna be thought of as a narcissist~ Would rather just keep the peace and be nice to people.
[20:02] <anonswmmobile> My last comment was a joke
[20:02] <LindsayS> Oh, huh. I guess I didn't get it
[20:03] <swmjimbob> Do not taunt the super people Anon
[20:03] <anonswmmobile> I meant that being a fan of a bigger chatacter you might end up being a fan of yourself
[20:03] <castor__> they have laser beams!!
[20:04] <anonswmmobile> And I have a very good mirror
[20:04] <anonswmmobile>
[20:04] <LindsayS> Oh~! Hee hee, I meant I'd be OK with whatever sort of character people wanted to see. ^^
[20:04] <castor__> curse you anon
[20:04] <castor__> *is shot by laser beams*
[20:05] <anonswmmobile> Ouch
[20:05] * camillejones winks
[20:05] <camillejones> Sorry.
[20:05] <camillejones> Anyways, time for me to go to the birthday party. Talk to you guys later but I'll leave this on to read up on more stuff.
[20:05] <anonswmmobile> For my next trick ... Anvils (Harry Dresden)
[20:05] <castor__> maybe you don't play the warden lindsay-but one of the ideas we where working with is that we do the introduction of supers to the world-maybe you play one of the first brave heroines who comes out to help people
[20:06] <anonswmmobile> Bye Cam
[20:06] <njae> bye sunshine
[20:06] <swmjimbob> bai
[20:06] <castor__> bye
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[20:07] <anonswn1> That might be better, as the wsrdens might not be suitable for introductory stories
[20:07] <camillejones> By everyone! By hun
[20:09] <anonswn1> "Silence will fall"
[20:11] <castor__> life happens in long silences of the shadows
[20:12] <anonswn1> This one I don't know. Where is it from?
[20:13] <castor__> just made it up
[20:13] <castor__> i have time as the conversation was at a bit of a lull
[20:14] <anonswn1> Okay.
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[20:16] <castor__> welcome back anon. while you where gone we made you a delicious cake
[20:16] <castor__> then we ate the cake
[20:16] <castor__> sorry
[20:16] <anonswmmobile> You still have some bits on you mustache
[20:17] <swmjimbob> there is no cake
[20:17] <swmjimbob> there is NEVER cake
[20:17] <anonswmmobile> One more thing on tha swmu. Have discussed the time frame
[20:17] <anonswmmobile> ?
[20:18] <castor__> Well lets put together the bible, see how that goes, then work on getting it started.
[20:18] <anonswmmobile> And the spoon is an illusion, which make it perfect to eat the imaginary cake
[20:19] <anonswmmobile> I was talking the pre-series time frame
[20:19] <anonswmmobile> The events before day one
[20:19] <castor__> oh okay.
[20:19] <swmjimbob> what happens on day one?
[20:20] <castor__> I think the idea we where working with in the mod chat-is we start with a teaser story about the govermeent trying to keep the knoweldge of supers..then flash back to the first appearence, some months earlier.
[20:22] <anonswmmobile> Okay. I'm just a bit lost since my internet is very limitrd right now
[20:24] <castor__> The idea we where working on is kind of a pandoras box-where people suddenly find they have superpowers in a normal everday world-there there a couple of mysterious appearences before, but mostly the characters are coming into it fresh
[20:25] <castor__> they can use there powers to make a thousands ills on humanity or become hope.
[20:25] <castor__> your choice:)
[20:25] <anonswmmobile> Which brings me to a question: how do we rxplain the wardens?
[20:26] <swmjimbob> head....spinning
[20:26] <anonswmmobile> It's the cake jb
[20:26] <anonswmmobile>
[20:27] <castor__> don't worry jimbomb, it all become very clear soon....perhaps to clear
[20:27] <anonswmmobile> Where or when are they from?
[20:28] <anonswmmobile> Sorry dinner id incoming
[20:29] <castor__> maybe there reality warpers-which mean they can't interact very much with the real world. maybe there hundreds of years old, but only experiencing a normal lifespan a few hours at a time.
[20:42] <swmjimbob> thats...deeeo
[20:42] <swmjimbob> deeeeep
[20:45] <castor__> the wardens shouldn't be fun characters to be. there not like flying bricks or superman-but people whose omense power litterally isolates them from the world.
[20:47] <@fatmanmedia> theweek.com/article/index/252513/meet-th...ir-own-netflix-shows
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[20:53] <castor__> fun idea.
[20:54] <castor__> to be honest i have been playing with ideas to do something similar.
[20:55] <castor__> To do like the videos we see posted here, but with perhaps a bigger budget, and crually a bit of ad dollars.
[20:56] <swmjimbob> uh
[20:56] <swmjimbob> how you gonna do that?
[20:58] <swmjimbob> that requires like cameras and actors and directing skills
[21:05] <castor__> Well let say you have budget of 500k-400k for the film, 100k for the advertisiing. you can get tax credits for about 30% for sake of argument. Thats 280,000 dollars. Let say you do 6 chapters each, which means you need about 6300 buys for each video. Which is a lot. However for cast you get people like interet celebrities-who potentially can use some of there fame to attract buys-not just our crowd-and the 100k builds up so
[21:06] <castor__> beyond that you can edit the videos into one movie-your talking like 120 minutes here if ther 20 minutes long. Then you can sell them to foriegn countries-theres a market for that kind of stuff-and also thinks like the existing american DVD market, and maybe things like the Syfi channel
[21:09] <castor__> but i am still working it out.
[21:10] <swmjimbob> wha......
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[21:11] <@fatmanmedia> last week i was playing with a Sony F55, great camera for the type of work you are talking about castor
[21:12] <@fatmanmedia> wb anon
[21:12] <AnonSWM|mobile> Thanks
[21:13] <castor__> Yeah fats it would be good. The wonder woman video a months ago got 4.5 million views. you don't need that many.
[21:13] <swmjimbob> sounds like lots of work
[21:14] <swmjimbob> what exactly would you be making a film of?
[21:14] <castor__> Well just business planing and scripting at this point.
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[21:16] <castor__> I had idea of doing of the Blue Beetle. Which is a character in the public domain. and making it a her
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[21:17] <AnonSWM1> Inhope this time it works better
[21:18] <castor__> I think the idea of doing a super strong super athletic woman-who is also an engeener could strike some imagination.
[21:18] <castor__> but its very early.
[21:19] <njae> hi eJm
[21:19] <castor__> yeah hi
[21:19] <LindsayS> Hello~!
[21:20] <eJm> hey guys, just thought I would pop in and see how things are going
[21:21] <AnonSWM1> Hi eJm
[21:21] <swmjimbob> oh its terrible here. Everythings on fire and there's no cake.
[21:22] <eJm> No Cake?!
[21:22] <eJm> Screw this!
[21:22] <swmjimbob> I know!
[21:23] <AnonSWM1> As I said before the spoon doesn't exist, so you can eat the imaginary cake
[21:24] <swmjimbob> imaginary cake doesn't taste as god
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[21:27] <castor__> hey dan
[21:27] <DanDud88> Hi people hows the meeting going
[21:28] <@fatmanmedia> good
[21:29] <@fatmanmedia> hi dan
[21:29] <AnonSWM1> Hi dan
[21:29] <swmjimbob> Hi Dan.
[21:29] <swmjimbob> I don't know who you are.
[21:29] <swmjimbob> But Hi
[21:29] <AnonSWM1> It has its moment, right now things are going quiet
[21:30] <castor__> where kind of talking a bout a bible for swmu
[21:30] <DanDud88> Hi, im like a part time member Im a bit shy about posting but i do sometimes.
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[21:33] <@fatmanmedia> wb anon
[21:34] <castor__> don't be shy.
[21:35] <LindsayS> Hi, Dan~
[21:36] <DanDud88> hi lindsay
[21:39] <DanDud88> I saw on the forums that some people were talking about audio stories
[21:40] <castor__> fats i think knows more about that
[21:41] <AnonSWM1> Actually I never left, it's just my mobile acting funny
[21:44] <@fatmanmedia> ont he isue of audio stores, there are 2 problems
[21:45] <@fatmanmedia> one voice actors, choosing the right person for the story, the wrong voice will not convey what the writer intended
[21:46] <@fatmanmedia> the other issue is cost, voice actors can cost quite a lot
[21:47] <castor__> Well keep in mind: Agian living in LA. There are plenty of actors out there-who routinely work for fairly little.
[21:48] <AnonSWM1> Perhaps you might help with this castor
[21:50] <castor__> there a couple of casting websites in LA. Voice acting for the web i don't belive is covered by any scale laws so in america is 8 bucks an hour. and you can find actors who will do that. you can get voice samples etc.
[21:57] <castor__> i can email you latter with details if you want
[21:58] <@fatmanmedia> sure
[21:58] <@fatmanmedia> fatmanmedia@yahoo.co.uk
[22:03] <LindsayS> I'm gonna be heading out in a sec - but this was good, glad I could be here. If people wanna say hey, I have a YM set up now. Chat me for it before I go, have a good day~ ^^
[22:04] <@fatmanmedia> c ya lind
[22:05] <castor__> bye!!! great having you
[22:05] <njae> bye Lindsay
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[22:12] <@fatmanmedia> might be a good idea to look at a kickstarter project to fund some audio stories
[22:12] <castor__> well that might work
[22:13] <castor__> i was going to a presentation last week with the guy who founded indiegogo and he pointed out something that was intresting. the average donation to there campaigns is 79,00
[22:13] <castor__> no sorry 79.00 dllars not 79000 dollars:)
[22:14] <castor__> but really i'll send you stuff when i have some time. Frankly i think you can do it for like a couple hundred bucks.
[22:14] <@fatmanmedia> i was about to say tha t79,000 would fund a ton of stuff
[22:15] <castor__> patrick stweart
[22:16] <@fatmanmedia> nah, you would want a woman's voice
[22:17] <castor__> patrick stweart in a dress
[22:17] <castor__> for 79,000 i bet he whould do it
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[22:19] <AnonSWM> That's a rather horrid picture
[22:19] <swmjimbob> mwahahaha?
[22:23] <@fatmanmedia> who would be a good celeb voice for the stories
[22:27] <swmjimbob> um........
[22:27] <swmjimbob> (insert female celeb here?)
[22:29] <castor__> who was the girl who did supergirl in the cartoon recently
[22:30] <AnonSWM> I don't remember her name
[22:30] <@fatmanmedia> which cartoon
[22:30] <@fatmanmedia> summer glu was a voice in one of them
[22:30] <AnonSWM> The last Superman animation
[22:32] <castor__> not a great voice.
[22:32] <castor__> but make it a streach goal:)
[22:34] <@fatmanmedia> Molly C. Quinn was the voice in superman unbound
[22:35] <AnonSWM> That's her
[22:36] <castor__> Strech Goal!!
[22:37] <AnonSWM> A lot!
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[22:37] <@fatmanmedia> hi cdr
[22:37] <SuperCDR> Is the town meeting still on?
[22:37] <AnonSWM> Kind of
[22:38] <AnonSWM> Also welcome
[22:38] <SuperCDR> ah. i can be around for a couple of minutes
[22:38] <SuperCDR> what are the subjects?
[22:38] <AnonSWM> Better makes it worth them
[22:39] <AnonSWM> Mostly the SWMU.
[22:39] <SuperCDR> the superwomanmania universe?
[22:40] <castor__> the kind of shared universe story where working on.
[22:40] <SuperCDR> ah awesome. are there any problems with it?
[22:42] <@fatmanmedia> no major problems, just getting the foundations working
[22:42] <SuperCDR> aha. have any reference files?
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[22:42] <@fatmanmedia> a bible is being looked at
[22:43] <AnonSWM_> Wireless ....
[22:43] <@fatmanmedia> castor can explain
[22:43] <SuperCDR> looked at? lol tried reading it yet?
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[22:45] <castor__> okay. here setting up a universe... ak ind of shared writing space-wehre you can make characters and have them rp together or do stories as part of a larger whole
[22:45] <castor__> and where kind of working out the kind of guidliness for it
[22:47] <SuperCDR> got that.. just beeing silly
[22:50] <SuperCDR> let me know if I can help
[22:55] <castor__> well whould you like to to write for something like this? make like stories?
[22:58] <SuperCDR> Im better with graphics than writing
[22:58] <SuperCDR> but I could help create characters
[22:59] <AnonSWM_> Well Rachel is rather interesting in her own way.
[23:01] <castor__> sure!
[23:01] <SuperCDR> oh?
[23:01] <SuperCDR> what do you suggest?
[23:01] <SuperCDR> make her join the SWM world?
[23:03] <AnonSWM_> I think not, she's an established character in her own right now.
[23:03] <AnonSWM_> Also she might be a wee too powerful
[23:03] <SuperCDR> lol
[23:04] <castor__> you can help come up with like characters, or may do some art.
[23:04] <SuperCDR> That I agree
[23:04] <SuperCDR> she has no city for now
[23:04] <SuperCDR> sure
[23:04] <SuperCDR> no problem
[23:04] <SuperCDR> you guys have my mail?
[23:04] <castor__> post it
[23:06] <SuperCDR> supercdr@yahoo.com
[23:06] <SuperCDR> I use yahoo IM a lot too
[23:07] <AnonSWM_> Thanks
[23:08] <@fatmanmedia> same here
[23:08] <SuperCDR> ok. need a reboot
[23:08] <SuperCDR> brb
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[23:10] <njae> alright guys, bedtime for me
[23:11] <AnonSWM_> Night
[23:11] <njae> night
[23:11] <@fatmanmedia> night
[23:11] * Disconnected
Session Close: Sun Nov 10 23:11:21 2013

Session Start: Mon Nov 11 06:30:09 2013
Session Ident: #superwomenmania
[06:32] * Rejoined channel #superwomenmania
[06:32] * Topic is 'Town Hall meeting to discuss SWMU and other topics'
[06:32] * njae|away is now known as njae
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> question for ejm what do you think ofht ejust ask jess thread
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[06:32] <SuperCDR> Im back!!
[06:32] <SuperCDR> Anon. what do you wanted to know?
[06:32] <AnonSWM_> Just a thing about your online shop.
[06:32] <SuperCDR> Yello?
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> wb cdr
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> question for ejm what do you think of the just ask jess thread
[06:32] <SuperCDR> Ask away
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> question for cdr what do you think of the just ask jess thread
[06:32] <AnonSWM_> I bought some of your stuff last year, but now I might in need o re-downloadingnit since my HD fried last month, are the links still valid or they had an expiration date?
[06:32] <SuperCDR> It's coolbut it's dangerous because it wears characters off
[06:32] <SuperCDR> they have an expiration date
[06:32] <SuperCDR> mail me at the store's mail with your username and I'll reset them for you
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[06:32] <wanderersoul> hi
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> hi
[06:32] <AnonSWM_> Thanks, I'll check it as soon as I get my stuff back
[06:32] <AnonSWM_> Hi wanderer
[06:32] <wanderersoul> new set up for the chat?
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> yeah, the other client would not work today, so we are using this one
[06:32] <wanderersoul> cool
[06:32] <AnonSWM_> Which wqs actually the old one
[06:32] <SuperCDR> so... you guys got my mail?
[06:32] <SuperCDR> I need to run to take a nap
[06:32] <castor__> yeah, i think i am going to call it soon here myself
[06:32] <SuperCDR> ok boys and girls!
[06:32] <SuperCDR> Im off!
[06:32] <SuperCDR> later!
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[06:32] <fatmanmedia> castor, before you go i would like to thank you for all that you have done today
[06:32] <castor__> no problem, here to help
[06:32] <castor__> will send you an email about casting latter, and may if i have some time put together some of the stuff into like a bible that we came up with here.
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> very cool
[06:32] <castor__> we got something here.
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> i'll turnt he log in to a minute tomorrow and post it to the site
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> *turn the
[06:32] <castor__> great!
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> i'll look in the idea of the kickstarter as well
[06:32] <AnonSWM_> Kickstartersmmightnbe tricky, since we need to advertise them outside of our community
[06:32] <wanderersoul> by the way castor, excellent job on the last 'Mazing Girl piece
[06:32] <castor__> glad you like it.
[06:32] <castor__> its very dark...
[06:32] <wanderersoul> and your last piece was very well done GeekSeven
[06:32] <castor__> but getting good response for it
[06:32] <castor__> good night everyone. everyone here is a talented artist, and together SWMU is going to be cool.
[06:32] <AnonSWM_> Bedtime for people. See you all around (some of you might drop in a bit more frequently )
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> well now it's quiet
[06:32] <swmjimbob> sorry
[06:32] <swmjimbob> I was off doing my podcast
[06:32] <swmjimbob> what'd we decide?
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> not much, castor is going to create the bible, i'm going to look at the idea of using kickstarter to fund a few audio books and a few toerh things
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> *other things
[06:32] <swmjimbob> oh
[06:32] <swmjimbob> alrighty then
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> unless a ton of people log in the next hour i think the meeting can be considered done, unless there are other things that need discussed
[06:32] <wanderersoul> damn, totally forgot about the meeting
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> lol
[06:32] <wanderersoul> had to do some grocery shopping
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> the seond most boring thing in the world
[06:32] <wanderersoul> that it is
[06:32] <wanderersoul> still, foodstamp day, so had to be done
[06:32] <wanderersoul> especially since tomorrow's Veteren's Day, so I'm theoretically going to be busy
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> we had remembrance Sunday today
[06:32] <wanderersoul> Thanksgiving in about two weeks
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[06:32] <elf22> so what'd i miss ?
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[06:32] <LuluSWM> Hi ther
[06:32] <LuluSWM> Sorry, I'm a bit late
[06:32] <LuluSWM> Hope I haven't missed anything from much issure
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[06:32] <LuluSWM> Hi there bob
[06:32] <swmjimbob> are we still town halling or is that resolved
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> hi lulu
[06:32] <LuluSWM> hi fats, so what did I miss?
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> alot, i'm just updating lfan, so do you mind waiting for 10 mins
[06:32] <LuluSWM> Of course not
[06:32] <LuluSWM> Hey bob, how are you?
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> ok castor is going to create a series bible that will lay the foundations for the SWMU, cam has left the mods of the SWMU, i'm to look at kickstarter to fund some audio books and there is also going to be a strong element of RP possible used to create new material
[06:32] <LuluSWM> What about njae and anon?
[06:32] <fatmanmedia> well officaly the meeting is now over

Lots of enthusiasm....No direction. I kind of like the idea of an SWMU, but I think, this idea will go on to show how deeply divided all of us are, on what would make a good SWMU. I think Anon said it best, Learn to walk before you run.

IMO, the only way an SWMU would work is if the authors were limited at 3 or 4 the most. That way, no one author could write something completely in left field. Ex - "And then Squirrel Girl showed up and used her mighty tail to vanquish all the bad guys" You see, that's something that I would write, and we don't wouldn't want that

Limit the authors to 3 and 4 and that way those authors can coordinate their ideas.

My 2 pennies....But I whip those pennies pretty hard, so if I caught any body in the eye, Im sorry

d_k_c wrote: Lots of enthusiasm....No direction. I kind of like the idea of an SWMU, but I think, this idea will go on to show how deeply divided all of us are, on what would make a good SWMU. I think Anon said it best, Learn to walk before you run.

IMO, the only way an SWMU would work is if the authors were limited at 3 or 4 the most. That way, no one author could write something completely in left field. Ex - "And then Squirrel Girl showed up and used her mighty tail to vanquish all the bad guys" You see, that's something that I would write, and we don't wouldn't want that

Limit the authors to 3 and 4 and that way those authors can coordinate their ideas.

My 2 pennies....But I whip those pennies pretty hard, so if I caught any body in the eye, Im sorry

The original goal behind the SWMU was to get as many people to participate as possible. The whole rulebook/bible thing is mainly there in order to give some ground rules under which the characters and stories should play out. That being said, even during my time in the staff there were quite a few discussions as each staff member had slightly different views. But given that I already am in a staff of two playing out a universe of their own I have to admit that lesser numbers make creating the universe a lot easier and smoother. It just wouldn't work as THE 'verse in my eyes.

Given my personal circumstances my enthusiasm for the SWMU hit rock bottom after I got kicked out of the staff with no explanation whatsoever (what you're reading in the log is ALL that was said on the matter). Were this a TV production, this would be the point where executive meddling ruined everything, but given the enthusiasm I saw from Dru and Castor, I'd like it to work for their sakes.

Well, the whole thing confuses me. Its not as if SWM has a line up of volunteers that are willing to put as much work in as you or Anon. And every project needs criticism, especially if its a group project. My thoughts are, Njae -as much of a personal insult as it may seem.....This is a blessing.

d_k_c wrote: Well, the whole thing confuses me. Its not as if SWM has a line up of volunteers that are willing to put as much work in as you or Anon. And every project needs criticism, especially if its a group project. My thoughts are, Njae -as much of a personal insult as it may seem.....This is a blessing.

I can't really feel insulted if I can't follow your comment. The thing is that there was no falling out inside the staff but rather an outside decision that I can't follow. There was a lot of constructive discussion before that.

Whether this is a blessing remains to be seen imho.

Castor's enthusiasm seems to be taking over SWM. A tale of a particularly cute kitten?...like....wtf? Its stories like that, that have me particularly concerned about SWMU....And for that matter the SWM in general....And Just so you know, I do feel like an asshole for writing that...but I think it needs to be said.

Well...Njae..Me personally - if an outside, Or inside decision ousted me from a project without any regard to reasons why. I'd be insulted. However, if you're not...then I retract the comment

d_k_c wrote: Well...Njae..Me personally - if an outside, Or inside decision ousted me from a project without any regard to reasons why. I'd be insulted. However, if you're not...then I retract the comment

Oh I do feel insulted, don't misunderstand me there. I only meant that I didn't feel insulted by your comment. Same goes for the swmu staff, while there were discussions there was no bad blood until I was suddenly kicked out with zero explanation. I mean I was deemed not bringing the project forward while there were less active members in the staff who are begged to stay despite them knowing that their contribution isn't as much as others.

Time you must give us....Launch early in new year we must....Physical stuff must be done, but will be done...Hmmm hmmm hmm hmm hmm

okay....somebody beat me up

Enthusiasm is great and all but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing- By my count there has been 23 Mazing girl stories since July - And it doesn’t have an end in sight….But I have an idea – I’ll throw it out there

“It was just another criminal pointing his gun at me, well it was a big gun – but who’s counting. Not that I’m implying that there was more than one gun…well…you know what I mean.

He fired the weapon at me, but his aim was off. At the last second I realized it was going to strike an innocent bystander. I jumped in front of the bystander and pressed her body against mine. I used my back as a shield

I began to glow, brighter and brighter until finally the weapons energy stopped. I looked at the woman I was protecting. She looked to be in in her late 20’s. She was dressed as if she were a teacher or a librarian. Not that librarians or teachers dress a certain way but…well…you know what I mean.

I felt light headed and stumbled backwards. I could tell the librarian felt the same way. Her body began to tense up. Her long lanky arms began to strengthen. A tight feminine bicep began to grow in her otherwise skinny arm.
Her black pants which once struggled to accentuate her bodies diminutive curves began to tighten as her ass and thighs began to strengthen.

She involuntarily did a double bicep pose while pushing her chest out. Her small breasts, not that I’m judging but they were rather small, began to grow.

She let out a might yell as her breasts began to swell, larger and larger. Her cotton, loose fitting blouse blasted its top three buttons off revealing her tightly packed firm cleavage. Her bra’s elastic strap stained for as long as it could before it snapped loudly. Her mouth was half open and chin pressed down at her collar as she attempted to take in the full view of her massive mounds.

I don’t know if they thought it was me, but two men rushed over to her holding fully automatic machine guns. I would have jumped out of the way…Hid! Ran! Anything thing other than just stand there.

Pop! Pop! Pop! Pop! Pop! The blasts were deafeningly loud. Having been shot at all too many times I could tell by the ringing of my ears that something was wrong with me. Did I lose my powers?

The woman was still looking down at her breasts, and just in time to see the rounds bounce off of them. Her clothes were now smouldering and she realized at the very same time as I did….That she was an Amazing Girl”

I will say one of the stories we talked a lot about was Astro City which is a complicated superhero book which involves dozens of characters doing diffrent things-in some stories there kind of spiderman tales, superman, golden age, silver age, the 70s-where ever the story goes. Its very much the idea that where ever there is as kind of supehero tales. To me at least i am kind of working to make a city-but frankly kind of blank one. I want the other writers to come up with the samaratians and Quarrels and the Dolls or the Mock Turtles.

I would like to see as many people particpate-that just makes everything richer.

In particular i will state that i hope we get writters who don't write a lot-or think wow this is to difficult. New writers. I realize there has been drama at the start which is what i would not like to see but i want people to encouraged here to participate.

I will admit that there is a trick here. Almost all the stories on the site kind of deal with the idea that the supergirl is the only one in the world, that she has the power to destroy the earth- but may or may not. In this SWMU this uniquness can't be the case-but a lot of superhero fiction outside of the site deals very rewardingly with them interacting good and bad together, bad and bad, etc. In most short stories on the site you can't create elabroate fiction of follow the lives of more then one characters-hopefully i want to see dozens here, and have there lives interact intresting ways.

Yet this is a trick. Because they still have to be *powerful*. I think the writing i am doing for bibles and such is very much the goal of creating a framework them work together, but at the same time keeping them beings who can smash things good. Hopefully with out stepping to much on everyones toes. By its nature there has to be walls like a video game, but i want to keep them as invsibile as possible.

There have been talks in the logs about NPC Wardens and others-but to me whats more important npcs are the guys who lift there finger up and point at the flying girls going 'wow'. My job is to supply the awe. Thats what makes a supergirl universe and i want to see it.

Anon wrote:

d_k_c wrote: Time you must give us....Launch early in new year we must....Physical stuff must be done, but will be done...Hmmm hmmm hmm hmm hmm

okay....somebody beat me up

Enthusiasm is great and all but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing- By my count there has been 23 Mazing girl stories since July - And it doesn’t have an end in sight….But I have an idea – I’ll throw it out there

According to what Castor told me he plans to write a entry per week until February/March of the next year (which mean roughly another 12-16 installments).

In general, DKC, I don't see what is the problem with Castor being this active. I can understand that it might be frustrating for other authors - it is for me - but aside from that I welcome new stories as long as they bring some quality narrative to the site.

I have to admit that the sheer amount of installments frustrates me as an author as well, especially considering I didn't get that many submissions done in over two years of writing. But I highly doubt that the enthusiasm and productivity is something that should be criticized. The library is still one of the main features of the site and requires new stories to carry the site, after all. Also I don't see why his own stories were linked to his involvement in the SWMU.

Actually - I have no issue whatsoever with the amount of stories Castor is putting out there. I agree, the more the merrier. But I'm frustrated as a reader - not as a writer. After reading Castor's last story and a couple others, it seemed to me as if it were a daily reflection. As if some random thought popped into his head and he worked it into a story. Am I wrong? Is it supposed to go like that? Is that the point?

I have taken issue with stories with no direction in the past, and so Castor's work is no exception.

That being said I hope SWMU works. tough road ahead, and wish you guys the best of luck

And as for Njae, someone want to give him a pm detailed explanation as to why he was ousted? I think its a bit passive aggressive to be dumped without any reason as to why that actually happened.

What was the reason, if you don't mind me asking?

fats wrote:

d_k_c wrote: And as for Njae, someone want to give him a pm detailed explanation as to why he was ousted? I think its a bit passive aggressive to be dumped without any reason as to why that actually happened.

A reason was given to the demotion. along with discussion with Njae.

Fats

I don't recall any discussion regarding my demotion from the SWMU staff. You simply decided to kick me out. In fact the PM you sent me during the Townhall meeting was an apology for not discussing things with me. When I asked you for an explanation then - and reminded you a week later - you simply waved it off, claiming there was nothing left to say.

Oh Dru....Your so cute when your angry. But - Do you think I was mocking the Yoda thing?...Dude...I was going along with it. I mean That is the way Yoda would say it..Man....You got to stop thinking the worst of people. Even the hmm hmm hmm hmm is the Yoda would laugh.

And I was commenting on the Townhall meeting Log - In that meeting, Castor's stories are discussed.

I was continuing that discussion - But I was done. Members made acceptable points contrary to my opinion....So, is it your intent to continue that discussion. Cause we can.

One quick question:

How is that audio book thing going?i made a post about it a couple of weeks ago, and i was curious if its going anywhere-its a neat idea that could be a lot of fun.

Castor