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New Story and New Author

23 Jan 2014 13:49 - 23 Jan 2014 18:22 #35247 by Woodclaw
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Just a little shoutout for the most recent addition to our Library: Miss Dynamo by shadoolord1979 .

All I can say is that is a good first story, I hope to see more from him.
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23 Jan 2014 14:30 #35248 by shadoolord1979
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There is more coming for sure. I asked dru (the guy that is editing the story for me) work on getting the first 4 chapters ready eventually. Currently the 2nd chapter is being worked on now. I appreciate the praise so far for the first story I ever posted here. It means alot to me.

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23 Jan 2014 14:45 #35249 by lfan
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While I enjoyed it and thought parts of it were very good, I was kinda turned off by the preponderance of "raping" scenes. I would have enjoyed it far more if that wasn't in there.

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23 Jan 2014 15:44 #35250 by algae2k
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lfan wrote: While I enjoyed it and thought parts of it were very good, I was kinda turned off by the preponderance of "raping" scenes. I would have enjoyed it far more if that wasn't in there.

ElF


This. Abuse and marital rape are not the normal scenarios one expects here (given that it is a bit of an escape from real life). OTOH, good writing and good writing style!
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23 Jan 2014 18:36 #35251 by Woodclaw
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algae2k wrote:

lfan wrote: While I enjoyed it and thought parts of it were very good, I was kinda turned off by the preponderance of "raping" scenes. I would have enjoyed it far more if that wasn't in there.

ElF


This. Abuse and marital rape are not the normal scenarios one expects here (given that it is a bit of an escape from real life). OTOH, good writing and good writing style!


As much as I agree with the sentiment, I think we should cut Shadoo some slack. As a first attempt isn't that bad and there are some other stories here that went too close for comfort to that territory.

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24 Jan 2014 02:36 #35265 by willow
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Anon wrote: As much as I agree with the sentiment, I think we should cut Shadoo some slack. As a first attempt isn't that bad and there are some other stories here that went too close for comfort to that territory.


i don't agree. Stories including rape like this one does have no place here just as stories dealing with peril don't either. What makes the matter even worse is how nonchalant the writer has the character reacting about a horrific and humiliating event like rape, and then disgustingly buys the woman off with a pile full of money for "shopping" a few paragraphs later.

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24 Jan 2014 02:48 - 24 Jan 2014 02:56 #35266 by Dru1076
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I think you guys are concentrating a bit hard on the 'rape'. I think it's more that there's a man raping a woman when the story starts that troubles you, as no one has ever complained about the superbabes having their way with men here! And I thought the whole reason for it was explained well. Anyway...I don't think he's going to be raping anybody now!

I thought it all made her turning the tables that much more meaningful, but that's just me, I guess.
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24 Jan 2014 03:49 - 24 Jan 2014 04:10 #35267 by Grayface
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Dru1076 wrote: I think you guys are concentrating a bit hard on the 'rape'. I think it's more that there's a man raping a woman when the story starts that troubles you, as no one has ever complained about the superbabes having their way with men here! And I thought the whole reason for it was explained well. Anyway...I don't think he's going to be raping anybody now!

I thought it all made her turning the tables that much more meaningful, but that's just me, I guess.


While I agree with Dru about the cutting of slack for the guy, and the tables turning and all of that.

I will agree with willow at first on how the Rebecca (and her husband) acted like the money and shopping made it okay, that was odd, BUT later we learn she was some what redeemed, by the fact that she was in fact keeping her husband from terrorizing the world by sacrificing herself and she knew this.

And I just want to add although rape is said a lot, I don't think it was glorified and I didn't get the impression that shadoolord got off on it, it wasn't written to be graphic, it was a plot device (used a little oddly at first) but like I said explained better in the end.
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24 Jan 2014 04:50 #35268 by lfan
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I've read some of the authors other stories before and I agree with Grey's sentiment in that I don't think he 'gets off on it' either. I guess my issue was mostly with 'how' it was handled/portrayed.

There are a few stories here that have rape scenes but to my recollection, they seem more in the context of the story and to show what a despicable act it was -- often as a setup for superpowered revenge later.

In Miss Dynamo -- to me -- it almost seemed like a cavalier treatment of the crime. The fact that the story started with a rape (or post rape) didn't help, but she almost seemed nonchalant towards it and too easily transitioned into admiring herself and shopping after being violated.

Just my $.02
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Dru1076 wrote: I think you guys are concentrating a bit hard on the 'rape'. I think it's more that there's a man raping a woman when the story starts that troubles you, as no one has ever complained about the superbabes having their way with men here! And I thought the whole reason for it was explained well. Anyway...I don't think he's going to be raping anybody now!

I thought it all made her turning the tables that much more meaningful, but that's just me, I guess.


While I agree with Dru about the cutting of slack for the guy, and the tables turning and all of that.

I will agree with willow at first on how the Rebecca (and her husband) acted like the money and shopping made it okay, that was odd, BUT later we learn she was some what redeemed, by the fact that she was in fact keeping her husband from terrorizing the world by sacrificing herself and she knew this.

And I just want to add although rape is said a lot, I don't think it was glorified and I didn't get the impression that shadoolord got off on it, it wasn't written to be graphic, it was a plot device (used a little oddly at first) but like I said explained better in the end.

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24 Jan 2014 06:09 #35269 by shadoolord1979
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It is nice to know people here are seeing what I am trying to say the raping was nothing more than a plot device and doesn't actually reflect the actual tone of the story overall. That is the reason why I didn't go into very much detail on it and hope you people picked up on it and you did too. I am happy for that. It is part of the story development not the main reason why the story is what is it. I had no idea you people felt this way but there won't be alot of raping from this point on so even by Rebecca herself. Now I know but I see what you guys mean at least my story isn't the worst in this area anyway. I like the support I am getting so far and the tone of the story will focus on other things quickly as the villains are introduced in future chapters.

The feedback is a great aid to me more you people can ever know. I appreciate all of it too

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24 Jan 2014 09:06 #35274 by Woodclaw
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willow wrote:

Anon wrote: As much as I agree with the sentiment, I think we should cut Shadoo some slack. As a first attempt isn't that bad and there are some other stories here that went too close for comfort to that territory.


i don't agree. Stories including rape like this one does have no place here just as stories dealing with peril don't either. What makes the matter even worse is how nonchalant the writer has the character reacting about a horrific and humiliating event like rape, and then disgustingly buys the woman off with a pile full of money for "shopping" a few paragraphs later.


As I said I agree with the general sentiment, but as Dru pointed out there have been a number of stories in the past that deal with a 'superwoman on man rape' scenario that none complained about.
I don't enjoyed the rape, nor I think it was in any way funny, but in the end it was "functional" (and I use the term rather hesitantly) to the story. I would have much prefered that it was an implied element, rather than a blatant one but, in this case, I think I can see why the author decided to make it manifest.

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24 Jan 2014 14:45 #35275 by algae2k
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I am cutting you some slack (as had been asked); I did initially, too. It was different than just "rape", "rape", "rape" for the sake of it. You had a purpose behind using this as a plot device, and, I must add, it is a lot different than any I had seen previously.

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24 Jan 2014 14:46 - 24 Jan 2014 14:48 #35276 by algae2k
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Anon wrote: As I said I agree with the general sentiment, but as Dru pointed out there have been a number of stories in the past that deal with a 'superwoman on man rape' scenario that none complained about.
I don't enjoyed the rape, nor I think it was in any way funny, but in the end it was "functional" (and I use the term rather hesitantly) to the story. I would have much prefered that it was an implied element, rather than a blatant one but, in this case, I think I can see why the author decided to make it manifest.


"Functional" is a good choice of words.
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