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Sarge's costume design

26 Aug 2015 03:51 #43900 by Sarge395
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I have a deep undercover project to produce a high quality Supergirl costume. Sourced over in China to keep costs reasonable.

Here is the first prototype. No price yet. No boots, no cape. No attachment method for a cape yet either. No plans for cape. Keeping it simple.

Size small or medium. Mostly small. It is cheerleader quality. Built for action and not cheap lycra. I think it looks damm good!

Maybe offer it here via SWM. Not trying to make a profit. Looking to break even. Looking to promote people to use it for cosplay, use it for movies, fun, and all the things we love. Sexy girls in my favorite costume.

Thoughts?



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26 Aug 2015 13:20 #43902 by Sarge395
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Here are some more images. This was taken at the manufacturer in China. Not anywhere that I have been.

Should I leave the strap for the hand or go with standard cuff? Double stitched. I had the skirt shortened a bit. Should be pretty leggy. There is some stretch for the chest area. Should be ok from B to D.

Any inquiries for purchase send me a PM and I will reserve one for you for now.

Two piece costume. Skirt and top. Hidden zippers on both for ease of on/off. The logo is dye sublimation and not a decal/sewn on.

Welcoming comments.


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26 Aug 2015 13:36 #43904 by Sarge395
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A little more behind the scenes information.

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26 Aug 2015 16:44 #43907 by erikphandel
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This is some quality costume man, you're very talented, great job. I really miss the cape though :c hope you add that at some point

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26 Aug 2015 18:53 #43908 by Sarge395
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No talent of mine. These are all photos from the vendor. I worked with them to tweak the details up to this point.

Cape would add a lot more to cost. Not sure how to attach. Perhaps future order or custom.

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26 Aug 2015 20:27 #43909 by shadar
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Sarge395 wrote: No talent of mine. These are all photos from the vendor. I worked with them to tweak the details up to this point.

Cape would add a lot more to cost. Not sure how to attach. Perhaps future order or custom.


I'd suggest forgetting the cape, Sarge. I understand tradition, but I think a great costume worn by the right girl would look way better without a cape.

And a costume that is cut low in the back (worn by a girl with a strong back) would look outstanding.

But not traditional. Or whatever "authentic" might mean when it comes to Supergirl (who has had so many costumes).

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27 Aug 2015 01:14 - 27 Aug 2015 01:21 #43914 by five_red
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Sarge395 wrote: No talent of mine. These are all photos from the vendor. I worked with them to tweak the details up to this point.

Cape would add a lot more to cost. Not sure how to attach. Perhaps future order or custom.


The Melissa Benoist costume apparently has the cape run down inside the front of the costume and attach to a corset that takes the weight. Melissa talked about the corset in one of the Comic Con round table interviews. The Chris Reeve costume had various capes for different types of shot -- I think (!?) the standard 'walking' cape had straps/cords that ran down inside the front of the tunic's neck, passed under his armpits, and tied at his back. This presumably meant that the weight of the cape was taken entirely by his shoulders and back, and wasn't attached to the tunic in any way so didn't pull it out of shape.

With your costume, if you added a cape of a similar design, the model would have to put the costume on but not pull the costume all the way up over her arms and chest, then someone would have to slip the cape over her bare shoulders and run the cords under the armpits and tie at her back, then finally pull the costume fully up over the arms and shoulders so the cape runs inside the front of the neck, and finally (reaching under the cape) zip it up at the back to fully cover the cords . At least, that's how I think it would work! :)

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27 Aug 2015 23:05 #43938 by Sarge395
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Thank you R5. Good information.

My only other concern is the hand strap. To have it or not. Kinda leaning no. Would limit use. Have to fit a larger limit of girls arms. Short to longer.

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28 Aug 2015 00:53 #43942 by lfan
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IMO, the hand strap looks a little strange BUT it helps keep the sleeves tight and taut, giving the arms of the costume a sleeker look.

Concerning the ,Cape, you can stitch magnets that they sell for that type of stuff . They are really strong and allow the cape to attach "seamlessly"

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28 Aug 2015 03:39 #43945 by Sarge395
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First sample piece is on its way. Need a model to sample it. :) Anyone know of any honest enough to return it or buy it? I've had a few (two) disappear over the years of doing this. Sent to a model in exchange for some great shots and a return of the costume. Then radio silence. Genuine attempts to get payment or a return ended up with more dead silence on one occasion and on the other outright lies about the deal. Never really lost sleep over it. Most times it has been fun enough for me to keep going.

Still not convinced of the band of fabric across the hand.

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28 Aug 2015 17:26 - 28 Aug 2015 17:28 #43955 by shadar
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Discussions about the challenges of producing a good looking costume are always sobering to me. Just getting a costume that looks good, stays in place and moves appropriately when a model walks across the room is hard enough.

Then you look at the problems associate with a Kryptonian or Velorian or whomever who flies, fights and shrugs off firepower, etc. and try to come up with a realistic costume that will hold together under those circumstances. Even if its just for suspension of belief in a story.

Other than presuming an invisible forcefield that extends beyond their skin, or some kind of super-duper alien fabric of unimaginable qualities, it comes down to the idea that costumes are for public appearances before a fight. But high-speed flight, fighting, weapons and fire are going to reduce any fabric that can be made on Earth to threads or ash. So fights should always end with essentially nude combatants who have to borrow a bit of clothing from bystanders afterward to maintain some standards of modesty..

Which is fine with me. Imagining Supergirl wearing my worn leather jacket after a fight works just fine for me. With bits a pieces of red and blue confetti covering the ground or floating down from the sky, etc. Remains of that nice costume.

And, of course, she does have to give my leather jacket back before flying away.

That concept naturally doesn't work for comics and TV/film, but works fine in stories. And it is more "realistic", at least within the bounds of the extended reality that we choose to consider as being plausible (which varies by person). Whatever the case, that's pretty important to me.

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29 Aug 2015 15:53 #43964 by brantley
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What's the trouble with her eyes?

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29 Aug 2015 22:27 #43968 by fats
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Sarge, why not contact jess or Natasha and see if they will model the costume for you.

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30 Aug 2015 05:10 - 30 Aug 2015 05:11 #43972 by algae2k
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What's the trouble with her eyes?

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You aren't familiar with shadar, are you? ;)
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03 Sep 2015 15:20 - 03 Sep 2015 15:23 #44042 by Sarge395
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Tracked it all day yesterday. Showed arrival and signature where I live. Mail room delivered it today. The girl had a grin that made me nervous. Glad I didn't have to take time off to go to the U.S. Post Office to sign for it. Waited until my morning meeting was over, closed my office door, and opened it up. First impressions were 1 quality and 2 heavier than I thought it would be. This is not Lycra. I held it up and ran it through my fingers for a few seconds. Man oh man it feels good. Excellent stitching and detail. Heart pounded. Tucked it away quickly since my co workers knock and enter always without waiting for responses. If only one of the cute secretaries came in, saw it, nervous pause and closed the door behind her. :evil:

Ok. Moving on. They sent two skirts. One is 11.5" and one is 16" tall. They said the 16" is more realistic. The logo is printed on. Skirt does not have built in liner/panty.

I will make a handful available at pretty much cost to members here. Size small and medium. I believe I have two spoken for already. Well under $100 USD. just waiting for shipping costs finalized. PM me to reserve one.
Ok back to work
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03 Sep 2015 15:52 #44043 by Markiehoe
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"A Cute secretary walks in"

Sounds like the beginning of a story.

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12 Sep 2015 22:26 - 12 Sep 2015 22:26 #44150 by Sarge395
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Do you mean Jess P? I don't think it is her style. She has said she is not interested in costumes for her site. I would be interested if she was.

Forgive me but I don't recall Natasha. Remind me please. I know I am going to smack my head for this when you tell. Just drawing a blank.

The skirt in the original costume photos above is 16" in length. I have a 12" version also sent. I have the first proof piece! It looks and feels great to the touch.

I have a local model willing to model it for a paid shoot.

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13 Sep 2015 00:04 #44153 by Markiehoe
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Natasha Blasick is connected with the Super Cher Noble project.
She is a member of this site.

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28 Sep 2015 02:55 #44314 by Sarge395
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Just finished four hours of shooting. She is gorgeous. Did my best. Lot of shots were shadowy. Used two cameras. Had a borrowed DSLR with a telephoto. Too big of a lens in my opinion. And my trusted point and shoot Lumix DC10. Took a bit over a thousand images.

She initially came out in the short skirt (12") and I about passed out. Complained it was too short and didn't want to shoot in it. So I pulled out the 16" version which is what almost every shot in the costume is. At the end I used my pleading and begging and she wore the short skirt for a couple dozen. Told her she could toss any that were inappropriate. She came alone actually. To my house. I said that was not the best but she could rest assured I was not a creep.

It was fun, I was very nervous, she was funny and cooperative.

Now I need to edit and play with the pics. Any software suggestions that won't break, the bank?


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28 Sep 2015 03:21 - 28 Sep 2015 03:27 #44316 by Markiehoe
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Bravo!
Well done.

Can you tell us how you found your model?
Agency?
Phone Book?
Internet ad?
Friend's recommendation?
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28 Sep 2015 03:58 #44317 by Sarge395
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Local ad. Waited for a weekend that worked for both of us. I learned a lot. She found it a bit weird. Kept asking what the shoot was for and where the images were going. I told her mostly to get some good shots for eBay and when I sell the costume online. We did some other shots of her changing costume. A lot of green screen. A lot of another backdrop.

Just had a good time. She was happy for the $.
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28 Sep 2015 08:17 #44321 by SCOTT R
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Thanks a ton Sarge for sharing your pics and bts adventures on your superchick project. Over a thousand photos in 4 hours..Wow, you were really haulin!!!

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28 Sep 2015 15:51 #44322 by Sarge395
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Murphy's law was alive and healthy. Burned out a big CFL bulb and nearly set off my smoke alarm. Smelled a bit like burned plastic. So lost some lighting. Didn't have a good command of the DSLR and had shadowing. And the camera would beep but not shoot a lot. Frustrated us both. She would pose, hear the focus beep, then no shutter. Happened in fully automatic mode and aperture priority setting. Was trying for some depth of field effects. Not very successful. May have had to do with the telephoto lens at 6' distance. I don't know. Need to get educated. Needed longer extension cords. And she showed an hour early and threw me off. I was nervous. Bumbled some of my checklist. She rolled with it. I asked if the costume would interest her for Halloween. She said yes. It was great quality and fit well. Asked which skirt. She said if she had black tights on the shorter one would rock. No freedom of movement in the short one without up skirt drama. But in the right crowd she would wear it without. She said 'I am young and may as well use it if I have it'. I wiped up my drool and soldiered on. May try my hands at editing some. If someone wants a full sample to play with send me a PM. I am picky. I will not be dumping these to a shared site for the time being. Had a restless night of sleep. I find intense things like this or playing a computer game re wire my brain for 24 hours. Deprogramming at work now.
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28 Sep 2015 18:51 #44323 by Markiehoe
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Can you post at least one pic with the short skirt?

Strictly for scientific comparison reasons only.
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28 Sep 2015 18:54 #44324 by castor
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Always happens always happens but you got the shots you need and thats the important part

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