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17 Mar 2012 05:51 #26652 by Esteban
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I second lfan. Well, don't abandon the hugely busted tall ubergirls, their bodies are a nice display of their superiority imo.
But also, the Wonder Woman of GATM Vengeance 1 was the most gorgeous girl I've ever seen on your site. After Angela and Jordan had their way with her, you should let this woman reappear in some kind of parallel universe. With the same body and face, but as strong as Angela, and surely as evil - maybe with a more fitting black costume then, and plenty of other "superhero-victims" that she can put to shame ;)

fats: Heather Effect contact page lists a "Jessica" as creative director, maybe this is her. Actually, the fact that we don't know too much about Jess makes it easy to just imagine Jess as a woman. Who cares anyway? Great content, friendly person, eager to hear some opinions. Excellent ;)

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17 Mar 2012 08:52 #26653 by Sarge395
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JessP,

Good to see you here. Obviously I am a big fan of the HeatherEffect site. Would love to see a DD cup busty Supergirl get changed by something (weird kryptonite concoction maybe?) into a bad girl. Her breast size could increase as well.

Love the huge breasts but you'd possibly get better mileage with large but not massive breasts as your girls have now. At least with the crowd on the SWM site.

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17 Mar 2012 12:28 #26654 by yohashuan
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1. Screw these other guys. Extra large tits FTW.

2. Also, I'd love to see a few stories or photosets that show the girls transforming from regular to super. Breast growth. Clothes ripping. Truck lifting. "OMG I can't believe how superpowerful I've become!" That kind of stuff.

3. Some less hyper-slutty clothing options. I mean... I love the hyper-slutty stuff don't get me wrong. But there's still a lot of potential there for more than just the thinnest possible strips of fabric. Long-sleeved skintight superhero bodysuits a la supergirl/powergirl can be just as sexy.

4. Increased niceness would be nice. I get that the girls have different personalities. I dig that they're so superior that regular humans are little more than an annoyance. But in some storylines, some of the girls at least seem to be grappling with trying to "do good." Wouldn't mind a little more of that and a little less of the murderous rampaging psycho personality type.

OK that's all that springs to mind. Yours' is one of the few sites I've actually thrown regular chunks of money at, so I figured it was alright to throw out some feedback. Thanks for the hard work!

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17 Mar 2012 13:46 #26655 by JessP
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Hiya!!!

Yes, I'm a girly-girl and Heather Effect is my baby!

THE BOOBS...

This has been a point of contention since before we launched 3 years ago. I had this theory that anybody who's into superwomen is probably also into very "exaggerated" breasts. For the most part, I think I was right, but we regularly receive plenty of emails asking us to tone things down to something more believable. (At least by comic book standards)

We're definitely not opposed to trying something different, I just can't honestly say that we'd gain more fans than we'd lose.

EVIL GIRLS...

Yeah, they're pretty bad! For logistical reasons, our comics have to jump right into the action most of the time. My favorite motif is to show once-good girls being corrupted by their power, so there usually ain't time to show their "softer" sides.

In our defense, the flashbacks in the last few Raptures show much, much different sides of AJ and Angela.

TRANSFORMATIONS...

We have a killer story that depicts a normal girl who gets transformed into our usual archetype. We haven't moved on it yet because I'm insisting on using a new character, not yet seen on our site.

That's it for now; Mass Effect calls to me!

Jess
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17 Mar 2012 14:32 #26657 by Woodclaw
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JessP wrote: Hiya!!!

Yes, I'm a girly-girl and Heather Effect is my baby!


First of all welcome.

THE BOOBS...

This has been a point of contention since before we launched 3 years ago. I had this theory that anybody who's into superwomen is probably also into very "exaggerated" breasts. For the most part, I think I was right, but we regularly receive plenty of emails asking us to tone things down to something more believable. (At least by comic book standards)

We're definitely not opposed to trying something different, I just can't honestly say that we'd gain more fans than we'd lose.


As far as the B-factor is concerned I'm not a big fan of how you design your characters. I know that 99.9% of female superwomen are drawn with exagirated proprtions, but yours are really taking the cake. I mean just consider this, give their bust size they shouldn't be able to move their arms in certain positions. Also, they tend to be incredibly skinny, which only amplifies the lack of proportions.

EVIL GIRLS...

Yeah, they're pretty bad! For logistical reasons, our comics have to jump right into the action most of the time. My favorite motif is to show once-good girls being corrupted by their power, so there usually ain't time to show their "softer" sides.

In our defense, the flashbacks in the last few Raptures show much, much different sides of AJ and Angela.


This part I don't mind too much. Morality is always a touchy subject, but I would love to see someone a little nicer (I haven't read the most recent chapters of Rapture, yet).

TRANSFORMATIONS...

We have a killer story that depicts a normal girl who gets transformed into our usual archetype. We haven't moved on it yet because I'm insisting on using a new character, not yet seen on our site.


I'm not sure this is a good idea, sometimes it's better to take fewer characters a flesh them out a little bit, before adding new ones.

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17 Mar 2012 17:51 #26661 by Sarge395
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JessP,

I have no problems with the boobs. Love them. Over the top and just by walking into the room they Dominate everyone else in it. H.E. has taken it to the limit in that arena. I was a big Foxtrot3D fan so adding in the storyline, bad girls, and superpowers made my mind blow a gasket. Preference is towards the uber bad girls but if good girls were destroying bad people I'd be 90% as happy with that. Love the action sequences more than the plot building but understand the plot building. The outfits are fanfreakingtastic. Would like to see more skintight full costumes.

Side topic. Would be interesting to see a superheroine olympics with all your girls competing. Maybe a few accidents and then a final fight. Then reset them afterwards. A side story for a rainy day perhaps.

Again, glad to see you here and glad to see the discourse going on.

Mass Effect = I can only dream. Cannot wait for some faster than can/string internet.

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17 Mar 2012 18:49 #26662 by www1969
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If we're voting, I'm firmly in the camp of "believable by comic book standards" breasts. To use real-life examples, I find a Denise Milani or a Jordan Carver incredibly hot, but the hyperinflated porn stars that are out to be as ginormous as possible just look silly to me, and your girls definitely fall into that second category. Might it be possible to have a mix of the two? Maybe keep the current roster and introduce others with more realistic (well, not "too" realistic) proportions? A little something for everybody?

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17 Mar 2012 23:22 - 17 Mar 2012 23:28 #26664 by Artnico
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I just wanted to say Welcome to JessP ;)

Big boobs : I love it, but as big as Coco Austin for exemple...

About Angela, AJ, Aeryn and the other's butt : too small :(
Again, Coco's butt would be the good size...

About action : I like when you make lot of Superstrength feats :woohoo: , but adding some super punches would be great too.

And YES, I love when you make them evil ! :silly:

Thanks for what you've already done. :)

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19 Mar 2012 06:55 #26682 by JessP
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I think I drank my own body weight in Irish whiskey last night...
Any-who,
This is the closest thing to a "believable" protagonist we've ever come up with. I'm calling her "Shawn" even though we never officially named her.
We deemed using her as too much of a risk 2 years ago, but I'm open to suggestions.
She clocks in at 32DDD-22-32, stands 5'7", and I'd guess her weight at 115lbs. (Yes, we really measure everything!)
By society's standards, she's still totally ridiculous; what do you guys think?

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19 Mar 2012 07:09 #26683 by JessP
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One more thing before The Walking Dead finale...
I understand that there's a (very) vocal group who would love to see some "thicker" models.
We're definitely fans of Denise Milani; Jordan Carver, not so much...
I think the real reason neither of these girls have gone topless is that their breasts would be hanging down to their ankles without a carbon-fiber reinforced super-bra. (Maybe not the new, freakishly muscular Denise)
I asked JT to seriously come up with something along the lines of Coco Austin, Kim Kardashian, Christina Hendricks, etc. "Lindsey" is what he came up with. Her topology is actually based on a real person! (I just pulled "Lindsey" out of my ass. JT named her "Chubby McFudgePack and I figured that wouldn't fly!)
I can say without hesitation that anything we release featuring this model wouldn't sell for shit. Most of the breast-men I know "tolerate" the aforementioned celebs because of their ginormous bustlines, but would much rather see Natalie Portman with boobs the size of basketballs.
On the other hand, having a main character who may drop dead of a cholesterol-induced heart attack at any given moment would add an extra layer of tension to our narratives :)
Different strokes for different folks I say!
So what about big muscles?

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19 Mar 2012 07:28 #26685 by lfan
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Personally, with simply 4 pics, Shawn is my favorite HE model....hope to see her incorporated soon. Perhaps, sprinkling Shawn in with AJ, Aeryn, and the rest might cater to both fans of Be as well as fans of "more realistic proportions"...

In any case, appreciate the time to solicit feedback and give us sneak peeks. As for muscles, i personally dig the fitness model types like Erin Stern or Timea Majorova who aren't overly muscular but definitely have some definition to go with their curves...

My $.02
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19 Mar 2012 07:48 #26688 by Esteban
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I like Shawn's proportions, looks really good (although the top shot is imo still Wonder Woman from Vengeance).
Either way, colossal breasts or just large breasts, the muscles shouldn't be too big. I'd actually say the same thing as you lfan, but Erin Stern or Timea are a bit too shredded for my taste.

Concerning humps: The current HE models could be more apple-ish, but not as big as Ms. McFudgePack. It's hard to describe... actually I think that the butts are pretty well-formed. But they seem to look a bit smallish atop of the largely defined legs that the models have.

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19 Mar 2012 09:08 #26689 by Sarge395
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I like them both. Prefer Shawn over Lindsey by a good margin. Shawn is a DDD? I guess I am spoiled by your girls usual average breast sizes then.

Dreaming about seeing Supergirl in the evil black/silver costume wreaking havoc.

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19 Mar 2012 16:01 - 19 Mar 2012 16:05 #26692 by Artnico
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I totally respect your choice Lfan, Sarge and Esteban.

But for my part, I vote for Lindsey, without hesitation! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

It's really the idea I'm getting for a Superheroine who possess super strength. She must be tall, both thick and muscular : just take a look to Power Girl !
I think Shawn is too thin and has a too small breast. :(

Strength = muscles, not too much, but muscles as fitness women.
femininity = breast, butt, thighs...

So far, my favorite was Aeryn, now I look forward to being able to see Lindsay (or call her what you like) in action ! Please...
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19 Mar 2012 16:25 #26693 by Woodclaw
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I love how Shawn looks, maybe a little too skinny, but the proportions looks a lot better to me.
Lindsey isn't bad either, although I would see her better with a little more muscle, something around the level of an olympic swimmer, not a body-builder.

Still, I can see that these are very different styles respect to your usual models and lack the "HE feeling".

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19 Mar 2012 20:49 - 19 Mar 2012 20:59 #26698 by yohashuan
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Shawn has a nice pretty face, and you're right her body would be incredible in the real world. But you're going to have a hard time passing her off as 'super' when she's standing in the same frame as any of the other girls.

But like I mentioned earlier, a transformation story would be fantastic. A comic with dozens of frames (or possibly another one of those animations which you've only produced one of I believe) that shows her blossoming from the above example into a "full-fledged" HE girl would likely be my personal #1 favorite geeky fake 3D virtual female masturbatory material of all time!

But I do get the impression that it might not be the easiest thing to do technically, is that right? Like you have to nail down the body of the model before you go inserting her into any artwork, so doing body-shifting transformation type of stories might have a programming/design aspect that makes it difficult? I don't know what the limitations are. I'm just a lonely perv on the internet with some friendly suggestions is all.

As for Lindsey: absolutely yes. Absolutely. I'm with Artnico in that I also wouldn't mind a little bit more ass. Not hung up on it though. I think you might be surprised how many of us "breast men" like a rounded booty. I get your comment about Natalie Portman with basketballs (hilarious btw), but I'm going out on a limb here and guessing that Natalie Portman with basketball tits and a Kim Kardashian ass (still with a Natalie Portman waistline) would be closer to that unattainable ideal only possible with computer graphics.

As far as muscles, you're probably going to get a wide variety of opinions. But for me, the fantasy has to do with blindingly sexy, feminine women who don't look "strong" or "powerful" at first glance (but who are obviously very fit) but then surprisingly you find out they're also basically Supergirl. So big muscles almost work against the fantasy for me. There is a lot of crossover with female bodybuilder types in this genre, but one of the biggest draws to your site for me was the femininity of the models. I'm hoping you don't veer away from that.

Lastly: I just wanted you to know that i'm in love with you. But wait! Not in a creepy way! Okay fine... maybe it is in a little bit of a creepy way being that you're a faceless internet entity, but what can I say? Thanks a lot for making the site and taking all my money. Keep up the great work!
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20 Mar 2012 04:48 #26709 by jnw550
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Sarge395 wrote: I like them both. Prefer Shawn over Lindsey by a good margin. Shawn is a DDD? I guess I am spoiled by your girls usual average breast sizes then.

Dreaming about seeing Supergirl in the evil black/silver costume wreaking havoc.


Second this. They are both amazing in their own right, and definitely better than the current characters. Not that I hate the current canon, just like this look better.

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20 Mar 2012 08:07 #26716 by oldHarmonyMotion
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OMG MORE SHAWN

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21 Mar 2012 23:09 #26736 by JessP
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OH HAI!!!

It definitely looks like Shawn's a hit, so we put together a few more concepts. One thing I'm digging about the more realistic boob size is that I can actually sculpt 'em into different shapes for cleavage, bras, tight clothing, etc.

I'm currently gathering up references to put a new face on her; right now Shawn is based on a real person from a project outside of HE, so we can't use her (from the neck up) because there would be a conflict of interest.

I'll post some samples here as soon as I come up with something :)

A few final thoughts on boobs and butts...

We'll always favor the "implants" look over the "natural" look. Going with characters who have gigantic "hangers" would necessitate "breast physics" calculations into our pipeline, (soft-body dynamics to you, Mister!) That, in addition to the 3 million steps it takes us to produce a single frame is just impractical.

We're definitely not fans of big butts and child-bearing hips. To me, these girls just look out of shape. It seems like I'm always seeing pictures of Kim Kardashian leaving the gym; she's just stopping there to poop, right?

The look of our models always factors into the stories as well. Aeryn for example, is all tall and statuesque, which makes her very intimidating. Angela on the other hand, looks all young and adorable which makes her superhuman abilities seem all the more potent.

We're obviously gonna stick with our current roster of girls for our ongoing series like Rapture and Vengeance, but we've decided to develop a new series based on whatever character I come up with...and Shawn's body.

We'll have to release it alongside the next Vengeance, so nobody freaks out. Even though Shawn has more D's in her bra size than a college football player's report card, two-thirds of our customers will still lose their shit at the very sight of her :)

So what do you guys want to see out of this potential comic? I'd love to do something based solely on customer feedback, or even bring in a new writer to mix things up.

A member pointed me to EvilSuperGirls.com. Anybody know anything about this guy? His stories seem pretty much in line with what we're doing.

Oh yeah; all this talk about Natalie Portman got me thinking!

PEACE!

Jess

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22 Mar 2012 00:05 - 22 Mar 2012 00:13 #26737 by Brantwood
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Hallo JessP,

i have a Question: Is there an Continuation of GATM Retribution?

This Series is great!

GATM Chronicles Pt.1 and GATM Vengeance are also great!!


:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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22 Mar 2012 00:18 #26738 by superfunk
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JessP wrote: A member pointed me to EvilSuperGirls.com. Anybody know anything about this guy? His stories seem pretty much in line with what we're doing.


He's known as Conceptfan and is one of the legend in the genre. He also has a dedicated forum topic here;

www.superwomenmania.com/index.php?option...&catid=13&Itemid=128

My two cents for breast size

I am one of those guys who are not happy with unrealistic breast size. I understand your concerns on losing some potential customers by changing that. But I have to confess that I ceased to purchase some your works for that reason. However, your envision for Shawn will make me to consider this again. I agree a different story line and even in a different universe is a good idea to start along with ongoing series.

Thanks

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22 Mar 2012 00:38 - 22 Mar 2012 00:39 #26739 by Esteban
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Are the breasts in Shawn8 and Natshawn bigger than in Shawn6 and Shawn7?

Shawn could fill in with many of the well-known "stereotypes" for superwomen. Newly-transformed spoiled schoolgirl, alien from outer space (who may or may not be causing huge trouble because she's not used to being so much stronger than the world around her), laboratory assistant who used some secret machine on herself (stealing the year-long research of a professor/research team, completely doing it on purpose and knowing her goal, of course destroying the machine afterwards and toy around with the team then [might be a bit burrowed from the Super Ayami story...]), and so on.
Personally, I'd like her character a bit less cruel and cold. You know, still evil and dominant, but less "everyone's worthless to me, I squish heads like grapes and feel nothing but emptiness inside". She should have fun in trying out her abilities, smile broadly (glee, teeth) and mocking her weak victims while toying with them. She shouldn't make so short work of everyone she kills. I believe you when you say that there are 3 quazillion steps needed to make one single frame, but it would be really cool if she'd take more enjoyment out of toying with people than ripping them apart in an instant. I'd love a whole comic just featuring her dominating two people or something ;) I do, though, understand that it's important to tell a story, because the character will be too flat and boring after a while.

Yeah. These are my thoughts and feelings towards this. Shawn6 is my favorite so far, btw.
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22 Mar 2012 01:34 #26740 by Artnico
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I'm really disappointed that we eliminate the character of Lindsay without even giving her a chance to exist, simply because 3 or 4 persons have acclaimed Shawn. :(

Don't forget that there is a silent majority that does not necessarily express on this forum.

So, why not keep the two characters and make them coexist in an adventure, as you know so well done in Heather Effect ?

After all, in the series GATM Retribution, there are several different Superwomen acting together.

Please, don't give up the character of Lindsay, it would be wrong.

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22 Mar 2012 21:24 #26751 by JessP
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Hey yo!

@Brantwood:

I do plan on revisiting Retribution down the road; there's no specific timeline just yet. It was a huge money maker for us and I made sure to leave the door open for future stories. At this point, I'd like to see Rapture concluded first; that one's closer to my heart :)

@Esteban:

Breasts are the same size, just a different shape. I'm still experimenting here :) "NatSwan" is a different model altogether; just me doodling as usual!

@Artnico

We're not giving up on anything! Like I said, I know our customers well enough to anticipate what will sell and what won't. If there's something I can do to bring in a larger audience, then I'm game.

This sucks; I just watched Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths and it's so close to what we're doing with Vengeance that we may have to start the next 2 issues over...goddammit.

Jess

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23 Mar 2012 04:47 #26758 by Esteban
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Wow, I'm so glad to hear about Retribution and Rapture. They were so cool - actually, would you please continue Darkmatter some day? :)

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