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eavatar wrote: It seems we have a consensus now. There are some supermen around, but they are weaker than the superwomen.
For now what we know about the world:
1) There are some hundred superwomen with variable power level and kinds of power
2) All that women share the same super gen which gave all their powers. Don't matter what triggered the powers, the supergen made it possible.
3) There are few supermen around, but they are weaker
4) The existence of super persons are a public knowledge
5) They are around for few decades
Now I think we need just to set some world details and organize a bible as long we do our stories.
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I wouldn't really call all of these consensus, but more compromises. What I mean is that there could be a bit more discussion about them. But this might be just my personal opinion.
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Now, as far as these ancient gods go, we can either make them the ancient gods that we know and love from our history and mythology classes. Or we could make their actual identities to be ancient extraterrestrials. It's a toss up for me.
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And the last thing how to organize our production bible. A production bible is just something we need to set to keep some coherence and gives us some resumed source of information. For the people who doesn't know what is an production bible, it is a "book" where all relevant information is stored. Like which super organizations are around, when it was organized and when it first appeared, or who is Miami superwomen and who among Miami superwomen are a good one or a bad one and so on. Of course a real production bible store a lot more information than this, like a whole character description including height, weight, dress code and other information relevant for artists and writers.
Like this idea about the production bible. Any idea how to realize it? Opening a new thread would be the easiest way I think. So we could actually see, how many peoples we have who would invent a superwomen for our universe. Afterwards I bet it would be easy to handle the last disagreements.
Well and about the few points last open questionable discussion points: Why not starting a poll where every user can have more than two or three votes for her/his favourite power origin idea and two more for the second favourite and so on. So we could decide in a democratic way.
But on the one hand I agree to njae that there could be a more decent discussion, on the other hand, I'm afraid it will lead to endless discussion about irrelevancies and don't bring any consensus to the whole topic.
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Evelyn wrote: Yes, there may be men who are handsome and extraordinarily strong, but they can only share the life from a distance. They may make an ordinary mortal man but her's is the power.
That doesn't make much sense to me. What good should the "supermen are weaker than superwomen by default"-rule be? This rule actually defeats the purpose of there being supermen at all, as they don't really have any additional value compared to normal men if they can't even be a challenge for the superwomen. Any dramatic tension during a superman vs superwoman fight is gone if there's a rule that dictates her superiority. I'd prefer them to be much less in number, but not in power. This also avoids complications with the varying power levels (if the weakest superwoman doesn't even have super strength, how powerful can male supers be?).
Ok I'm getting tired of this particular subtopic, let's see what else we have:
The majority of questionaire participants wanted the superwomen to not be around for that long and NOT have them affect history. So I don't have any real love for the whole 'super soldier during WWII' idea. To be honest, I still prefer the 'they are just beginning to appear/become known NOW' scenario, where the whole universe is more created in the stories written for it compared to the 'supers are public knowledge from the beginning' scenario. The 'bible' will be filled as more and more stories are written, since the universe get's filled with more and more characters. It should only contain the ground rules in the beginning.
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njae wrote:
Evelyn wrote: Yes, there may be men who are handsome and extraordinarily strong, but they can only share the life from a distance. They may make an ordinary mortal man but her's is the power.
That doesn't make much sense to me. What good should the "supermen are weaker than superwomen by default"-rule be? This rule actually defeats the purpose of there being supermen at all, as they don't really have any additional value compared to normal men if they can't even be a challenge for the superwomen. Any dramatic tension during a superman vs superwoman fight is gone if there's a rule that dictates her superiority. I'd prefer them to be much less in number, but not in power. This also avoids complications with the varying power levels (if the weakest superwoman doesn't even have super strength, how powerful can male supers be?).
I agree with Njae, making the supermen weaker by default defies the purpose of having them in the first place. I can agree to establish that the top tiers of the power scale are generally composed by superwomen, but that's it. If the weakest superwoman is still more powerful that the strongest supermen, then it's better to remove supermen from the equation from start.
Ok I'm getting tired of this particular subtopic, let's see what else we have:
njae wrote: The majority of questionaire participants wanted the superwomen to not be around for that long and NOT have them affect history. So I don't have any real love for the whole 'super soldier during WWII' idea. To be honest, I still prefer the 'they are just beginning to appear/become known NOW' scenario, where the whole universe is more created in the stories written for it compared to the 'supers are public knowledge from the beginning' scenario. The 'bible' will be filled as more and more stories are written, since the universe get's filled with more and more characters. It should only contain the ground rules in the beginning.
Again agreed. I think that making superwomen a fully public and extremly recent phenomenon is limiting the possibilities of the authors. I would rather work with a different scenario, something like: the number of supers are increasing to the point that something has to leak and/or someone decide to go public. Otherwise no "unveiling" story will be possible and a new supergirl around will be just a minor note in the news (pretty much like having a new football team in the lowest division).
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njae wrote: The majority of questionaire participants wanted the superwomen to not be around for that long and NOT have them affect history. So I don't have any real love for the whole 'super soldier during WWII' idea. To be honest, I still prefer the 'they are just beginning to appear/become known NOW' scenario, where the whole universe is more created in the stories written for it compared to the 'supers are public knowledge from the beginning' scenario. The 'bible' will be filled as more and more stories are written, since the universe get's filled with more and more characters. It should only contain the ground rules in the beginning.
Again agreed. I think that making superwomen a fully public and extremly recent phenomenon is limiting the possibilities of the authors. I would rather work with a different scenario, something like: the number of supers are increasing to the point that something has to leak and/or someone decide to go public. Otherwise no "unveiling" story will be possible and a new supergirl around will be just a minor note in the news (pretty much like having a new football team in the lowest division).
Yeah, something like for centuries, supers managed to avoid detection due to their small numbers (less than fifty) and a few secret organisations of them. E.g. the Amazons could specialize in training female supers to master their powers (to stay hidden and not to injure those around them) after a certain Helen caused the Troyan War due to her not being able to control her super pheromones.
Now in the 21st century the number of awakening supers are too much for these organisations to handle and modern technology makes it hard to deny the existance of supers anymore. This could go hand in hand with the ancient space god /metagene theory.
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njae wrote: Yeah, something like for centuries, supers managed to avoid detection due to their small numbers (less than fifty) and a few secret organisations of them. E.g. the Amazons could specialize in training female supers to master their powers (to stay hidden and not to injure those around them) after a certain Helen caused the Troyan War due to her not being able to control her super pheromones.
Now in the 21st century the number of awakening supers are too much for these organisations to handle and modern technology makes it hard to deny the existance of supers anymore. This could go hand in hand with the ancient space god /metagene theory.
I'm definitely able to get behind that sort of idea. It gives a lot of flexibility, allowing long legacies or recent developments for individual characters depending upon the individual story. It also allows public and hidden superwomen. That's pretty much exactly the set-up I would have chosen for the history of the world.
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njae wrote: So... officially the questionaire has ended (at least if fats meant last Sunday), any further comments on the resulst or the ideas here?
because i'm so lazy (that and my wife's off on holiday) i'm getting her to do the work on the questionnaire.
expect a long winded replay soon.
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