Variety: Supergirl may switch to CW on renewal

Why do so many people still think the show is going to CW?

Can the show apply for the California film tax credit this year, soon? What if WB can't find studio space or enough crew for the show in BC on such short notice? Will the show go somewhere else? Atlanta?

I would imagine that the show is already getting all available tax breaks and/or incentives for filming in California. The benefits of moving to Vancouver, I believe, would be the opportunity to share the studio space already being used by Arrow and Flash and probably sharing some of the crew used for the shows. I think this could happen regardless if the show ends up airing on CBS or the CW.

My only problem with a possible move to the CW is, where do you schedule it? They have renewed all of their shows, with the exception of Containment (and it looks like that will be happening soon). There's really no room for it on their schedule, especially for fall.

brad328 wrote: I would imagine that the show is already getting all available tax breaks and/or incentives for filming in California. The benefits of moving to Vancouver, I believe, would be the opportunity to share the studio space already being used by Arrow and Flash and probably sharing some of the crew used for the shows. I think this could happen regardless if the show ends up airing on CBS or the CW.

I believe someone mentioned below that they had budgeted the show around getting the incentives in California, but in the end they didn't get any. That's why the move to Vancouver came up, perhaps as a threat to get CA to approve them, but regardless, they would have to be prepared to make that move north if CA doesn't come through. For credibility if nothing else.

Shadar

There's talk of a monster quake that might hit Vancouver...

www.vancouversun.com/technology/tuesday+.../11622611/story.html

Where's Supergirl when they need her?

--Btantley

brantley wrote: There's talk of a monster quake that might hit Vancouver...

www.vancouversun.com/technology/tuesday+.../11622611/story.html

Where's Supergirl when they need her?

--Btantley

Yup, almost guaranteed in the next 200 to 300 years. Almost certainly less than a 1000 years. But also could be tonight. Or could be after Vancouver has become post-civilization jungle, as in Plant of the Apes. Best probability puts it at 10% chance in the next 50 years, based on analyzing past data. These hyper-massive subduction quakes are absolutely guaranteed, but with wide variation in timing. There is a geologic record of the last 40 or so of these quakes, which yields the approximate dates. The last one was in 1700. We actually know the exact date (to the day) of that one-- thanks to meticulous Japanese tsunami records that go way back. The tsunami was still significant on the other side of the Pacific. That big.

I live even closer to the likely epicenter. >9.0 quake expected at my house. Which is more or less like having a very large bomb land on me (given my house hangs over a hillside). Nothing left but splinters. Probably small ones.

The good news is that if I make it through the next 20 years or so, it'll be one heck of a way to go out. Sort of like riding the hydrogen bomb down in Dr. Strangelove.

That said, I'm always open to cute alien blonde girls flying in to save the day. In fact, why wait for an earthquake.

Or for that matter, one of the descendants of the Valkyrie, who could probably hold her own arm-wrestling Supergirl. Demigods. Definitely some very Nordic genes at work here, What is it about tall blondes and superstrength?

Mildly NSFW...


Shadar

That shot of Victoria is among those featured on a site that I think must be Turkish:

galeri.uludagsozluk.com/r/victoria-silvstedt-125829/

So should they start shooting in Ankara?

--Brantley

shadar wrote:

brantley wrote: There's talk of a monster quake that might hit Vancouver...

www.vancouversun.com/technology/tuesday+.../11622611/story.html

Where's Supergirl when they need her?

--Btantley

Yup, almost guaranteed in the next 200 to 300 years. Almost certainly less than a 1000 years. But also could be tonight. Or could be after Vancouver has become post-civilization jungle, as in Plant of the Apes.

Shadar

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Yes But canadian Tax Credits will make filming there still very intriguing for producers! Very intriguing.

It seem like California's tax credit program is a joke. What good is it if a show Supergirl can't get it? Where are the big budget films? Hell, more DC films have filmed in my home state(Illinois) than California. We have 30% tax credit for film and tv production, despite the fact the state has a budget crisis.

If Supergirl does LA for BC or anywhere else, the whole program could end up being discredited in the eyes of the LA film community.

andyf wrote: It seem like California's tax credit program is a joke. What good is it if a show Supergirl can't get it? Where are the big budget films? Hell, more DC films have filmed in my home state(Illinois) than California. We have 30% tax credit for film and tv production, despite the fact the state has a budget crisis.

If Supergirl does LA for BC or anywhere else, the whole program could end up being discredited in the eyes of the LA film community.

The issue historically was that LA was such a good place to make shows (every kind of resource is there) that they didn't (and still don't) have to offer the incentives that other states do. But what their selection criteria is for selecting which productions to incentize -- I have no idea. Maybe its based on who can most easily move, or is most willing, and incent them to stay.

If so, then there would be a lot of gamemanship on both sides.


Shadar

shadar wrote:

andyf wrote: It seem like California's tax credit program is a joke. What good is it if a show Supergirl can't get it? Where are the big budget films? Hell, more DC films have filmed in my home state(Illinois) than California. We have 30% tax credit for film and tv production, despite the fact the state has a budget crisis.

If Supergirl does LA for BC or anywhere else, the whole program could end up being discredited in the eyes of the LA film community.

The issue historically was that LA was such a good place to make shows (every kind of resource is there) that they didn't (and still don't) have to offer the incentives that other states do. But what their selection criteria is for selecting which productions to incentize -- I have no idea. Maybe its based on who can most easily move, or is most willing, and incent them to stay.

If so, then there would be a lot of gamemanship on both sides.


Shadar

The basic anwser today is California a lottery-any film or tv show that wants to apply can, Right now something like 4 times as many films apply as get in, and that maybe going up. if you don't get it you can make it here or do it someplace else.
There was a smaller system a couple of years ago, but it was wildly considered an insider system, so they scaled it up to a blind lottery.

The secondary anwser-is it is cheeper to film out of los angeles. As a guy who has run these numbers before-crew sets all of it can cost twice as much as it does in BC or other places-sometimes much more. A union boom Operator costs 700 dollars a day in La, 300 in Vancouver-and this is not counting things like exchange rates etc.

So they could save a lot.


But this could help them. As i have said-the shows in Vancouver are all i think technically speaking much better shows-the camera work the stunts the costumes-it looks great. LA stuff not so much. One of the big things i hear in LA industury-is but the people aren't as talented....which is something i honeslty don't see in TV at all. Its not like Breaking Bad was shot in LA.

But they can't do the same show. Not really. One of the big reasons TV shows are filmed in LA-more then movies now, is there is a wider pool of actors who have roots here. This goes for cast this goes guest stars- and if i where a guessing man part of there discussions of why its taking long is just to negitioate that and to see what they get. I am not sure Calista "ms harison Ford"Flockhart wants to spend 9 months of the year in Vancouver, or even necesssarily Benoist. If they can't do it they have problems.They could right around it-Cat can be gone i supose...but its only so much.

I notice that a lot of shows that get the tax credit are shows that filmed in LA and left for someplace with a tax credit program and came back to SoCal. Show like American Horror Story and ABCs Mistresses.
Then, there are shows that, filmed their pilot elsewhere, but filmed the series itself in LA. If Supergirl films season2 elsewhere, could it return to LA for season 3?

andyf wrote: I notice that a lot of shows that get the tax credit are shows that filmed in LA and left for someplace with a tax credit program and came back to SoCal. Show like American Horror Story and ABCs Mistresses.
Then, there are shows that, filmed their pilot elsewhere, but filmed the series itself in LA. If Supergirl films season2 elsewhere, could it return to LA for season 3?

I belive they can do that...but thats a tricky move. American Horror story can do it as its essentially an anthology, but its a tricky move.

So, the show applied last year and didn't get the credit? Why? Did the program run out of money by the time it applied?

Latest update from Deadline Hollywood make it sound like it s moving to CW.

EDIT BY R5 -- Link: deadline.com/2016/05/supergirl-cw-move-c...s-bubble-1201752684/

There is also talk of several other networks wanting to buy the show.

My guess is that the show continues in some form, but perhaps not on CBS with their big budgets.

I wonder if this is all some suits deciding it's too expensive for the ad revenue it generates.

Might be bad news for special effects afficiondos, but maybe good for the writers, who had to fill every episode with flash and bang regardless of story. If that happens, I might like the change.

Shadar

CBS just renewed Life In Pieces. Variety in reporting about LIF, says it sources tell them Supergirl is one their most likely new shows to get renewed, despite the CW rumors.

EDIT BY R5 -- Link: variety.com/2016/tv/news/life-in-pieces-...on-2-cbs-1201771693/

Not a usual poster around these parts but thought I'd throw this in.

Supergirl's been renewed and is moving to the CW next season.

www.ew.com/article/2016/05/12/supergirl-...y_socialflow_twitter

eJm wrote: Not a usual poster around these parts but thought I'd throw this in.

Supergirl's been renewed and is moving to the CW next season.

www.ew.com/article/2016/05/12/supergirl-...y_socialflow_twitter

Makes sense to go to CW with the rest of Berlanti's stuff.

Also move to Vancouver where his other productions are. But they have yet to announce the move.

My guess is that they'll lose a few regular actors with the Vancouver move, so that's gotta be worked first.

Just saw this on Twitter. Not a big deal to me. I just hope the writing gets better.

I am buying the blu ray package as well. Never watched or DVR'd it. But I like to support what I love.

Voting with your pocket book sends a strong message.

I also have to wonder what this means for special effects. A show where we see a flash of light (instead of MB in the Supergirl outfit) when Supergirl flies, as well as less use of her other super powers (heat and x ray vision, super speed, super hearing, super strength, invulnerability) would be enough for me to stop watching the show. Basically, I hope the super power use doesn't look worse due to lower budget issues.

I also hope the storyline writing improves vastly. One suggestion I would make is that they include at least one or more writers who are working exclusively on the Supergirl show (and who are not involved with the Flash, Arrow, or other shows at all). This way, those writers who work exclusively on the Supergirl show have a stake in the show and more reason to put effort into it. Those who split their time between the SG show and the others have more time juggling concerns while writing, and, if the CW Supergirl fails to get renewed for a third season, its not a huge loss for them, as they still have shows to work on.

I'd also mention to Kreisberg that a confident Supergirl isn't the same as a competent one (I want to see a competent Supergirl who doesn't need to be rescued by others and who can save the day by herself and can contribute to strategies Hank and Alex develop), and that nerfing her powers to put her in peril (she can't breathe in space, so she had to be rescued is a strategy that I absolutely loathe.

To put it another way, a show that's about Supergirl's growth as a heroine is worth watching. A show that's about Supergirl's willingness to sacrifice herself to save the day is MOST DEFINITELY NOT, at least not when it involves her being written as incompetent or being put in peril and rebranding that as Supergirl's willingness to sacrifice herself.

I continue to maintain that its not budget issues or anything like that that's the problem_its simply that the writing tends to be idiotic and weak. If that doesn't change, I doubt the show will make it to a season 3.