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31 May 2014 21:55 #36675
by shadar
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I found this discussion elsewhere, but thought it was amusing enough to share:
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I am endowed with a large bust and consequently always have to wear a bra for support. If I was flying in space in a zero-gravity environment, would I no longer require my undergarment? And, if not, what shape would my breasts assume? So many female astronauts have gone into space that I feel sure there is an answer.
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Your correspondent's breasts would not weigh anything in space but they would still have mass and momentum. It would feel similar to swimming in water without a costume.
If they are large breasts, then this could prove to be disconcerting both for you and your fellow astronauts.
The problem was considered in the 1973 science fiction novel written by Arthur C. Clarke, Rendezvous with Rama, in which he wrote: "Some women, Commander Norton had decided long ago, should not be allowed aboard ship; weightlessness did things to their breasts that were too damn distracting. It was bad enough when they were motionless; but when they started to move, and sympathetic vibrations set in, it was more than any warm-blooded male should be asked to take. He was quite sure that at least one serious space accident had been caused by acute crew distraction, after the transit of a well-upholstered lady officer through the control cabin."
David Gibson , Leeds, West Yorkshire
Good old Arthur Clarke... a man with a great imagination.
Of course, flying superwomen on Earth, with presumably very firm boobs, might appear that way even in 1 G. And if they can fly, are they moving in their own zero G bubble? Curious minds seriously want to know.
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I am endowed with a large bust and consequently always have to wear a bra for support. If I was flying in space in a zero-gravity environment, would I no longer require my undergarment? And, if not, what shape would my breasts assume? So many female astronauts have gone into space that I feel sure there is an answer.
Answer:
Your correspondent's breasts would not weigh anything in space but they would still have mass and momentum. It would feel similar to swimming in water without a costume.
If they are large breasts, then this could prove to be disconcerting both for you and your fellow astronauts.
The problem was considered in the 1973 science fiction novel written by Arthur C. Clarke, Rendezvous with Rama, in which he wrote: "Some women, Commander Norton had decided long ago, should not be allowed aboard ship; weightlessness did things to their breasts that were too damn distracting. It was bad enough when they were motionless; but when they started to move, and sympathetic vibrations set in, it was more than any warm-blooded male should be asked to take. He was quite sure that at least one serious space accident had been caused by acute crew distraction, after the transit of a well-upholstered lady officer through the control cabin."
David Gibson , Leeds, West Yorkshire
Good old Arthur Clarke... a man with a great imagination.
Of course, flying superwomen on Earth, with presumably very firm boobs, might appear that way even in 1 G. And if they can fly, are they moving in their own zero G bubble? Curious minds seriously want to know.
Shadar
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01 Jun 2014 01:37 #36677
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This seems a paragraph that could only be written in 1973.
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shadar wrote: I found this discussion elsewhere, but thought it was amusing enough to share:
The problem was considered in the 1973 science fiction novel written by Arthur C. Clarke, Rendezvous with Rama, in which he wrote: "Some women, Commander Norton had decided long ago, should not be allowed aboard ship; weightlessness did things to their breasts that were too damn distracting. It was bad enough when they were motionless; but when they started to move, and sympathetic vibrations set in, it was more than any warm-blooded male should be asked to take. He was quite sure that at least one serious space accident had been caused by acute crew distraction, after the transit of a well-upholstered lady officer through the control cabin."
David Gibson , Leeds, West Yorkshire
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This seems a paragraph that could only be written in 1973.
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01 Jun 2014 03:05 #36682
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Sometimes I yearn for those simpler times, when political correctness was not rampant.
On the other hand, there were a lot of other things wrong with the world in 1973. For me personally, I was in the US military at the time, thanks to the Vietnam War. I was a really bad soldier.
In all, nearly 2,000,000 people died in SE Asia during the 60's and 70's -- civilians, local militaries and foreign military forces like the one I belonged to. Not a time of political correctness in any form.
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castor wrote:
shadar wrote: I found this discussion elsewhere, but thought it was amusing enough to share:
The problem was considered in the 1973 science fiction novel written by Arthur C. Clarke, Rendezvous with Rama, in which he wrote: "Some women, Commander Norton had decided long ago, should not be allowed aboard ship; weightlessness did things to their breasts that were too damn distracting. It was bad enough when they were motionless; but when they started to move, and sympathetic vibrations set in, it was more than any warm-blooded male should be asked to take. He was quite sure that at least one serious space accident had been caused by acute crew distraction, after the transit of a well-upholstered lady officer through the control cabin."
David Gibson , Leeds, West Yorkshire
Shadar
This seems a paragraph that could only be written in 1973.
Sometimes I yearn for those simpler times, when political correctness was not rampant.
On the other hand, there were a lot of other things wrong with the world in 1973. For me personally, I was in the US military at the time, thanks to the Vietnam War. I was a really bad soldier.
In all, nearly 2,000,000 people died in SE Asia during the 60's and 70's -- civilians, local militaries and foreign military forces like the one I belonged to. Not a time of political correctness in any form.
Shadar
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01 Jun 2014 12:26 #36686
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Is it wrong that I found this whole topic vaguely disconcerting? 
Since I was born in the '80s, I really don't know if those were simpler times or not.
Politically correctness is something that was twisted out of shape over time. Up to the point that using any word older than 3 years seem impolite. To be honest I, sometimes, prefer to be blunt and toss politically correctness out of the window.
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castor wrote:
shadar wrote: I found this discussion elsewhere, but thought it was amusing enough to share:
The problem was considered in the 1973 science fiction novel written by Arthur C. Clarke, Rendezvous with Rama, in which he wrote: "Some women, Commander Norton had decided long ago, should not be allowed aboard ship; weightlessness did things to their breasts that were too damn distracting. It was bad enough when they were motionless; but when they started to move, and sympathetic vibrations set in, it was more than any warm-blooded male should be asked to take. He was quite sure that at least one serious space accident had been caused by acute crew distraction, after the transit of a well-upholstered lady officer through the control cabin."
David Gibson , Leeds, West Yorkshire
Shadar
This seems a paragraph that could only be written in 1973.
Sometimes I yearn for those simpler times, when political correctness was not rampant.
On the other hand, there were a lot of other things wrong with the world in 1973. For me personally, I was in the US military at the time, thanks to the Vietnam War. I was a really bad soldier.
In all, nearly 2,000,000 people died in SE Asia during the 60's and 70's -- civilians, local militaries and foreign military forces like the one I belonged to. Not a time of political correctness in any form.
Shadar
Since I was born in the '80s, I really don't know if those were simpler times or not.
Politically correctness is something that was twisted out of shape over time. Up to the point that using any word older than 3 years seem impolite. To be honest I, sometimes, prefer to be blunt and toss politically correctness out of the window.
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01 Jun 2014 20:00 #36690
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Sorry, couldn't resist, given we like well-endowed, flying heroines (who could wind up in space).
The political correctness discussion was a distraction, although not in the same way a well-endowed woman in zero gravity might be.
Maybe those skin-tight costumes, if they are VERY tight, have a useful purpose after all.
Which reminds me of the old "bullets and boobs" discussions. You know, the dynamics of transferring hundreds of foot-pounds of force from a supersonic projectile to jiggly, dimply, energy absorbing but inpenetrable flesh. With or without a costume. Personally, I think that would be very distracting to the shooter.
Which might explain PG's costume design.
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The political correctness discussion was a distraction, although not in the same way a well-endowed woman in zero gravity might be.
Maybe those skin-tight costumes, if they are VERY tight, have a useful purpose after all.
Which reminds me of the old "bullets and boobs" discussions. You know, the dynamics of transferring hundreds of foot-pounds of force from a supersonic projectile to jiggly, dimply, energy absorbing but inpenetrable flesh. With or without a costume. Personally, I think that would be very distracting to the shooter.
Which might explain PG's costume design.
Shadar
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02 Jun 2014 09:48 #36699
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Actually I meant that I found the whole discussion on zero gravity and boobs disconcerting. I can see its relevance here, but it's one of those strange bits that never hit me until someone else said it loudly.
I remember an AU story (I think it was one of Brantley's) where there was a discussion on the physics of bullets and invulnerable boobs, but that was it.
As for PG's costume, one of my favored explanations is this one (last panel):
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shadar wrote: Sorry, couldn't resist, given we like well-endowed, flying heroines (who could wind up in space).
The political correctness discussion was a distraction, although not in the same way a well-endowed woman in zero gravity might be.
Maybe those skin-tight costumes, if they are VERY tight, have a useful purpose after all.
Actually I meant that I found the whole discussion on zero gravity and boobs disconcerting. I can see its relevance here, but it's one of those strange bits that never hit me until someone else said it loudly.
Which reminds me of the old "bullets and boobs" discussions. You know, the dynamics of transferring hundreds of foot-pounds of force from a supersonic projectile to jiggly, dimply, energy absorbing but inpenetrable flesh. With or without a costume. Personally, I think that would be very distracting to the shooter.
Which might explain PG's costume design.
Shadar
I remember an AU story (I think it was one of Brantley's) where there was a discussion on the physics of bullets and invulnerable boobs, but that was it.
As for PG's costume, one of my favored explanations is this one (last panel):
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02 Jun 2014 18:56 #36705
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PG is such fun. She has a masculine personality stuffed into a tall, muscular female body with ultra perky pornstar grade boobs that she likes to show off. She approaches both sex and fighting (and relationships in general) like a guy. And she has all the powers of Superman.
She doesn't take sh$t from anyone, and prefers to solve problems with an over-application of muscle. Pretty much all problems. Subtlety isn't her strong suit, nor is femininity.
That comic excerpt was perfect, Woodclaw. Some people get her. But not all. She's deliberately polarizing.
Where Superman has always been sensitive and polite (to a fault as Clark), but Kara's Karen Starr identity is just as tough as PG, albeit not physically.
The writers used to error on the butchy side in depicting her personality (before it was fashionable to be a strong, independent female), but in World's Finest, she's very credible and believable. Given the subject matter, that is.
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She doesn't take sh$t from anyone, and prefers to solve problems with an over-application of muscle. Pretty much all problems. Subtlety isn't her strong suit, nor is femininity.
That comic excerpt was perfect, Woodclaw. Some people get her. But not all. She's deliberately polarizing.
Where Superman has always been sensitive and polite (to a fault as Clark), but Kara's Karen Starr identity is just as tough as PG, albeit not physically.
The writers used to error on the butchy side in depicting her personality (before it was fashionable to be a strong, independent female), but in World's Finest, she's very credible and believable. Given the subject matter, that is.
Shader
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02 Jun 2014 22:41 #36710
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I'm not sure if I would define PG's personality as masculine, but she's surely quite aggressive.
Overall I'm a big fanof the Gray-Palmiotti-Conner version of the PG. They managed to balance her personality very nicely adding more behind the scenes action, a touch humor without losing the key elements of the character.
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shadar wrote: PG is such fun. She has a masculine personality stuffed into a tall, muscular female body with ultra perky pornstar grade boobs that she likes to show off. She approaches both sex and fighting (and relationships in general) like a guy. And she has all the powers of Superman.
She doesn't take sh$t from anyone, and prefers to solve problems with an over-application of muscle. Pretty much all problems. Subtlety isn't her strong suit, nor is femininity.
That comic excerpt was perfect, Woodclaw. Some people get her. But not all. She's deliberately polarizing.
Where Superman has always been sensitive and polite (to a fault as Clark), but Kara's Karen Starr identity is just as tough as PG, albeit not physically.
The writers used to error on the butchy side in depicting her personality (before it was fashionable to be a strong, independent female), but in World's Finest, she's very credible and believable. Given the subject matter, that is.
Shader
I'm not sure if I would define PG's personality as masculine, but she's surely quite aggressive.
Overall I'm a big fanof the Gray-Palmiotti-Conner version of the PG. They managed to balance her personality very nicely adding more behind the scenes action, a touch humor without losing the key elements of the character.
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02 Jun 2014 22:55 #36711
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Absolutely agree re: writing. Artwork wasn't always the best, but characterization was excellent.
Paul Levitz writing in World's Finest is decent. He excels at really letting her kick butt. Levitz's story lines are fairly shallow though.
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Woodclaw wrote:
shadar wrote: PG is such fun. She has a masculine personality stuffed into a tall, muscular female body with ultra perky pornstar grade boobs that she likes to show off. She approaches both sex and fighting (and relationships in general) like a guy. And she has all the powers of Superman.
She doesn't take sh$t from anyone, and prefers to solve problems with an over-application of muscle. Pretty much all problems. Subtlety isn't her strong suit, nor is femininity.
That comic excerpt was perfect, Woodclaw. Some people get her. But not all. She's deliberately polarizing.
Where Superman has always been sensitive and polite (to a fault as Clark), but Kara's Karen Starr identity is just as tough as PG, albeit not physically.
The writers used to error on the butchy side in depicting her personality (before it was fashionable to be a strong, independent female), but in World's Finest, she's very credible and believable. Given the subject matter, that is.
Shader
I'm not sure if I would define PG's personality as masculine, but she's surely quite aggressive.
Overall I'm a big fanof the Gray-Palmiotti-Conner version of the PG. They managed to balance her personality very nicely adding more behind the scenes action, a touch humor without losing the key elements of the character.
Absolutely agree re: writing. Artwork wasn't always the best, but characterization was excellent.
Paul Levitz writing in World's Finest is decent. He excels at really letting her kick butt. Levitz's story lines are fairly shallow though.
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02 Jun 2014 23:16 #36712
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Don't get too attached, Levitz is leaving WF I think in July or August
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shadar wrote:
Woodclaw wrote:
shadar wrote: PG is such fun. She has a masculine personality stuffed into a tall, muscular female body with ultra perky pornstar grade boobs that she likes to show off. She approaches both sex and fighting (and relationships in general) like a guy. And she has all the powers of Superman.
She doesn't take sh$t from anyone, and prefers to solve problems with an over-application of muscle. Pretty much all problems. Subtlety isn't her strong suit, nor is femininity.
That comic excerpt was perfect, Woodclaw. Some people get her. But not all. She's deliberately polarizing.
Where Superman has always been sensitive and polite (to a fault as Clark), but Kara's Karen Starr identity is just as tough as PG, albeit not physically.
The writers used to error on the butchy side in depicting her personality (before it was fashionable to be a strong, independent female), but in World's Finest, she's very credible and believable. Given the subject matter, that is.
Shader
I'm not sure if I would define PG's personality as masculine, but she's surely quite aggressive.
Overall I'm a big fanof the Gray-Palmiotti-Conner version of the PG. They managed to balance her personality very nicely adding more behind the scenes action, a touch humor without losing the key elements of the character.
Absolutely agree re: writing. Artwork wasn't always the best, but characterization was excellent.
Paul Levitz writing in World's Finest is decent. He excels at really letting her kick butt. Levitz's story lines are fairly shallow though.
Don't get too attached, Levitz is leaving WF I think in July or August
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