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16 Oct 2017 11:05 #56593
by kikass2014
Replied by kikass2014 on topic Marston flops.
I haven't seen the film yet, but tbh, I'm not totally surprised by it not being a runaway success. If the assumption was that people who liked WW would flock to see this, then I don't know what to say.
The story of her creator and creation is WILDLY different to the WW we have today.
With regards to going to the movies, I only go if the film is worthy of a cinematic experience. Not EVERY movie needs to be seen in the cinema, though some can ONLY be truly enjoyed in the cinema.
I agree Woodclaw, there is a certain feeling and experience going to watch something in the cinema, but that, to me, only applies to certain films. Films that I see, look forward to seeing, and/or have seen in the cinema that benefit from going, to me include:
Any Star Wars film
Any Marvel film
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
The Hobbit Trilogy
Valerian
Blade Runner 2049
Going further back in time (no pun intended)
Back to the Future
The Goonies
and many, many more
There is a certain magic to the cinema experience, but imo a LOT of films can be seen today streaming and/or on bluray/dvd and they don't lose anything from doing so. I'm not one of those that mindlessly flocks to the cinema for every movie released.
Ofc, how one watches and enjoys a movie is subjective, but I would still argue that there is a case for movies that benefit from the "cinematic experience" and those that don't.
Interesting discussion to have
Peace.
/K
The story of her creator and creation is WILDLY different to the WW we have today.
With regards to going to the movies, I only go if the film is worthy of a cinematic experience. Not EVERY movie needs to be seen in the cinema, though some can ONLY be truly enjoyed in the cinema.
I agree Woodclaw, there is a certain feeling and experience going to watch something in the cinema, but that, to me, only applies to certain films. Films that I see, look forward to seeing, and/or have seen in the cinema that benefit from going, to me include:
Any Star Wars film
Any Marvel film
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
The Hobbit Trilogy
Valerian
Blade Runner 2049
Going further back in time (no pun intended)
Back to the Future
The Goonies
and many, many more
There is a certain magic to the cinema experience, but imo a LOT of films can be seen today streaming and/or on bluray/dvd and they don't lose anything from doing so. I'm not one of those that mindlessly flocks to the cinema for every movie released.
Ofc, how one watches and enjoys a movie is subjective, but I would still argue that there is a case for movies that benefit from the "cinematic experience" and those that don't.
Interesting discussion to have
Peace.
/K
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16 Oct 2017 14:49 #56598
by shadar
I think it depends on how your home theater is set up. Mine is a dedicated room that was designed for the purpose, with a functionally larger screen than anything short of an IMAX (screen size versus distance) and has better sound than any theater. The best digital theaters are running 4K now (same as my home theater) with most still on 2K.
DVD's can't do justice to that, nor can the normal Bluray, but the new Ultra HD Bluray (4K) disks are outstanding, albeit still limited in titles. Plus, 8K is on the horizon. Streaming is now becoming common at 4K.
Oh, and my popcorn machine was salvaged from an old movie theater.
I don't care if I ever go into a movie theater again, although plays are great fun and those obviously have to staged in theaters.
The trend is toward earlier releases of movies for home viewing, and I don't doubt that someone will eventually get that down to nearly zero delay. I know some companies are trying to sell that model to the studios. I'd happily pay $USD50 or even a bit more for a single viewing at home of a movie that's released the same time as the theater. For me, the closest halfway decent theater (2K) is more than an hour's drive (each way) from my house, and the closest top-notch (4K) theater is 2 1/2 hours each way from my house (have to go into Seattle).
My bigger problem is internet speeds given I live outside of a town area and have to rely on a custom microwave radio link.. At 10Mbs download speeds, it takes a while to grab a 4K movie. But downloading during the day to watch at night works well. But I'm going to need to update the radios to routinely handle streaming of 4K or 8K content. My neighbor thankfully owns the company that provides the internet service for this area, and he's a tech nut who already has 100Mbs at his house. I've told him I'd be happy with half that. Maybe next year he says. I'll probably wait until 2019 to invest in 8K gear anyway.
So yeah, I'm a retired electrical engineer who likes tinkering with his gadgets. The amazing part is that my five dogs have adjusted to the room-shaking audio and they just snuggle up. Until they see a dog or wolf on the screen. My three Labs act as if the animal is in the room and rush the screen. That rules out some movies without putting the dogs outside. (They really come for the popcorn anyway.) The two little dogs don't seem to care what's on the screen.
Shadar
Replied by shadar on topic Marston flops.
kikass2014 wrote: I haven't seen the film yet, but tbh, I'm not totally surprised by it not being a runaway success. If the assumption was that people who liked WW would flock to see this, then I don't know what to say.
The story of her creator and creation is WILDLY different to the WW we have today.
With regards to going to the movies, I only go if the film is worthy of a cinematic experience. Not EVERY movie needs to be seen in the cinema, though some can ONLY be truly enjoyed in the cinema.
I agree Woodclaw, there is a certain feeling and experience going to watch something in the cinema, but that, to me, only applies to certain films. Films that I see, look forward to seeing, and/or have seen in the cinema that benefit from going, to me include:
Any Star Wars film
Any Marvel film
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
The Hobbit Trilogy
Valerian
Blade Runner 2049
Going further back in time (no pun intended)
Back to the Future
The Goonies
and many, many more
There is a certain magic to the cinema experience, but imo a LOT of films can be seen today streaming and/or on bluray/dvd and they don't lose anything from doing so. I'm not one of those that mindlessly flocks to the cinema for every movie released.
Ofc, how one watches and enjoys a movie is subjective, but I would still argue that there is a case for movies that benefit from the "cinematic experience" and those that don't.
Interesting discussion to have
Peace.
/K
I think it depends on how your home theater is set up. Mine is a dedicated room that was designed for the purpose, with a functionally larger screen than anything short of an IMAX (screen size versus distance) and has better sound than any theater. The best digital theaters are running 4K now (same as my home theater) with most still on 2K.
DVD's can't do justice to that, nor can the normal Bluray, but the new Ultra HD Bluray (4K) disks are outstanding, albeit still limited in titles. Plus, 8K is on the horizon. Streaming is now becoming common at 4K.
Oh, and my popcorn machine was salvaged from an old movie theater.
I don't care if I ever go into a movie theater again, although plays are great fun and those obviously have to staged in theaters.
The trend is toward earlier releases of movies for home viewing, and I don't doubt that someone will eventually get that down to nearly zero delay. I know some companies are trying to sell that model to the studios. I'd happily pay $USD50 or even a bit more for a single viewing at home of a movie that's released the same time as the theater. For me, the closest halfway decent theater (2K) is more than an hour's drive (each way) from my house, and the closest top-notch (4K) theater is 2 1/2 hours each way from my house (have to go into Seattle).
My bigger problem is internet speeds given I live outside of a town area and have to rely on a custom microwave radio link.. At 10Mbs download speeds, it takes a while to grab a 4K movie. But downloading during the day to watch at night works well. But I'm going to need to update the radios to routinely handle streaming of 4K or 8K content. My neighbor thankfully owns the company that provides the internet service for this area, and he's a tech nut who already has 100Mbs at his house. I've told him I'd be happy with half that. Maybe next year he says. I'll probably wait until 2019 to invest in 8K gear anyway.
So yeah, I'm a retired electrical engineer who likes tinkering with his gadgets. The amazing part is that my five dogs have adjusted to the room-shaking audio and they just snuggle up. Until they see a dog or wolf on the screen. My three Labs act as if the animal is in the room and rush the screen. That rules out some movies without putting the dogs outside. (They really come for the popcorn anyway.) The two little dogs don't seem to care what's on the screen.
Shadar
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16 Oct 2017 16:22 #56604
by kikass2014
Replied by kikass2014 on topic Marston flops.
That is some very impressive kit you have Shadar
Being a film buff myself, while I can't say my setup is as good as yours, its fairly decent
My point, like Woodclaw states, was that the "cinema experience" is more then just sound and vision. Its that communal feeling (especially with high fan films like Star Wars, MCU and in the past LOTR). There is a special aura being in the presence of others like yourself, talking, speculating, with total strangers for one night. Of sharing the emotional roller coaster of a good movie with others, cheering and applauding at the start and the end.
As I said, you don't get that with every film, in fact I would say very few fall into my definition of a cinema experience. But when they do, I personally look forward to it
Peace.
/K
Being a film buff myself, while I can't say my setup is as good as yours, its fairly decent
My point, like Woodclaw states, was that the "cinema experience" is more then just sound and vision. Its that communal feeling (especially with high fan films like Star Wars, MCU and in the past LOTR). There is a special aura being in the presence of others like yourself, talking, speculating, with total strangers for one night. Of sharing the emotional roller coaster of a good movie with others, cheering and applauding at the start and the end.
As I said, you don't get that with every film, in fact I would say very few fall into my definition of a cinema experience. But when they do, I personally look forward to it
Peace.
/K
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16 Oct 2017 18:55 #56605
by shadar
If I lived anywhere near a technically good theater, I might enjoy the social experience. But that's one of the things I've given up to live well away from concentrations of people.
Just a matter of priorities. I like living where no lights are visible at night and the air is pure and clean with no industry upstream of me for 5000 miles. I live in the extreme northwest corner of the US where the closest upstream factory or population center is in Japan. Fortunately, there's this big pond named the Pacific Ocean in between.
I was forced to live in or near big cities during my working life, so my idea of retirement was to do the opposite of everything I'd done since I started working for a living. That meant going away from cities as far as I could and still have reliable power and at least a half decent Internet, and near a shoreline that almost always has on-shore breezes. I like ocean air and a cool, wet climate.
Some places in western Wales, Ireland or Scotland would also have qualified on that side of the little pond. I've been to western Ireland in the winter and it felt much like home. Lived in the Azores for a while in the early 70's, and that weather was nice too. Then I spent time in Greenland. NOT nice weather.
Replied by shadar on topic Marston flops.
kikass2014 wrote: That is some very impressive kit you have Shadar
Being a film buff myself, while I can't say my setup is as good as yours, its fairly decent
My point, like Woodclaw states, was that the "cinema experience" is more then just sound and vision. Its that communal feeling (especially with high fan films like Star Wars, MCU and in the past LOTR). There is a special aura being in the presence of others like yourself, talking, speculating, with total strangers for one night. Of sharing the emotional roller coaster of a good movie with others, cheering and applauding at the start and the end.
As I said, you don't get that with every film, in fact I would say very few fall into my definition of a cinema experience. But when they do, I personally look forward to it
Peace.
/K
If I lived anywhere near a technically good theater, I might enjoy the social experience. But that's one of the things I've given up to live well away from concentrations of people.
Just a matter of priorities. I like living where no lights are visible at night and the air is pure and clean with no industry upstream of me for 5000 miles. I live in the extreme northwest corner of the US where the closest upstream factory or population center is in Japan. Fortunately, there's this big pond named the Pacific Ocean in between.
I was forced to live in or near big cities during my working life, so my idea of retirement was to do the opposite of everything I'd done since I started working for a living. That meant going away from cities as far as I could and still have reliable power and at least a half decent Internet, and near a shoreline that almost always has on-shore breezes. I like ocean air and a cool, wet climate.
Some places in western Wales, Ireland or Scotland would also have qualified on that side of the little pond. I've been to western Ireland in the winter and it felt much like home. Lived in the Azores for a while in the early 70's, and that weather was nice too. Then I spent time in Greenland. NOT nice weather.
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16 Oct 2017 19:37 #56606
by kikass2014
Fair enough
Peace.
/K
Replied by kikass2014 on topic Marston flops.
If I lived anywhere near a technically good theater, I might enjoy the social experience. But that's one of the things I've given up to live well away from concentrations of people.
Fair enough
Peace.
/K
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