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Wonder Woman 3?
19 Oct 2022 04:29 - 19 Oct 2022 04:39 #75741
by Monty
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Ok, the first Wonder Woman film with Gal Gadot in 2017 was a blast, and hit unforseen global audience ratings.
The sequel (as you may expect) saw a downturn in ratings and came across to many as a disappointment.
Now there is talk of a Wonder Woman 3 movie.
I am all for Gal Gadot in the role as the leading actress, but is Patty Jenkins trying to resurrect a movie that is past it's juncture?
(e t.a. I just read there that Patty Jenkins always saw the movie as a three part act / trilogy)
www.cbr.com/wonder-woman-3-script-patty-jenkins-imminent-dceu/
The sequel (as you may expect) saw a downturn in ratings and came across to many as a disappointment.
Now there is talk of a Wonder Woman 3 movie.
I am all for Gal Gadot in the role as the leading actress, but is Patty Jenkins trying to resurrect a movie that is past it's juncture?
(e t.a. I just read there that Patty Jenkins always saw the movie as a three part act / trilogy)
www.cbr.com/wonder-woman-3-script-patty-jenkins-imminent-dceu/
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19 Oct 2022 07:53 #75743
by Woodclaw
Moreover, there is no actual word about what they will do with the general DCEU project.
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With the current climate at WB/Discovery, I would be very cautious. The higher-ups at the stodios seem more intent on cutting costs, rather than completing projects.Ok, the first Wonder Woman film with Gal Gadot in 2017 was a blast, and hit unforseen global audience ratings.
The sequel (as you may expect) saw a downturn in ratings and came across to many as a disappointment.
Now there is talk of a Wonder Woman 3 movie.
I am all for Gal Gadot in the role as the leading actress, but is Patty Jenkins trying to resurrect a movie that is past it's juncture?
(e t.a. I just read there that Patty Jenkins always saw the movie as a three part act / trilogy)
www.cbr.com/wonder-woman-3-script-patty-jenkins-imminent-dceu/
Moreover, there is no actual word about what they will do with the general DCEU project.
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19 Oct 2022 12:36 #75745
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WW84 was “doomed” from the start with the COVID-driven HBOMax release and it’s all-over-the-place plot, including bringing back Trevor.
the performances of Wiig and Pascal I thought were good individually but it was too much to have them both together IMO.
jenkins I think is a great director and is passionate about the character so I’d be willing to give her a third shot. Sadly, very few sequels ever recapture the magic of the first one, no matter the director or the franchise
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the performances of Wiig and Pascal I thought were good individually but it was too much to have them both together IMO.
jenkins I think is a great director and is passionate about the character so I’d be willing to give her a third shot. Sadly, very few sequels ever recapture the magic of the first one, no matter the director or the franchise
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19 Oct 2022 14:01 #75748
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The reveal of Ares's identity in the first was quite underwhelming, especially when compared to what the JLU cartoon did with the same scenario.
WW84 simply lacked a really coherent story and the tear-jerker of bringing back Trevor was forced at best and a bit offensive at worst.
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Although I really like Patty Jenkins's work, I think that both movies really suffered in the third act.jenkins I think is a great director and is passionate about the character so I’d be willing to give her a third shot. Sadly, very few sequels ever recapture the magic of the first one, no matter the director or the franchise
The reveal of Ares's identity in the first was quite underwhelming, especially when compared to what the JLU cartoon did with the same scenario.
WW84 simply lacked a really coherent story and the tear-jerker of bringing back Trevor was forced at best and a bit offensive at worst.
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19 Oct 2022 17:42 - 19 Oct 2022 17:45 #75753
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Don't know if studio management/thinking have changed, but regardless, I'm always up for another WW movie with Jenkins directing. Hopefully what worked in WW1 wasn't just novelty and only enjoyable during WW's first encounter with men and the world of men, and that it can be reused in some interesting way. Nothing wrong in my book about digging in deeper with Themyscira settings and stories that spill out into the larger world, perhaps with Artemis having a role in man's world.
Remember that Artemis was briefly WW back in the comics, and she's a lot more kick-ass than Diana, who in contrast to Artemis can reveal her compassion and love for mankind in the way she deals with Artemis' excesses. Or go back to the comic theme of Hippolyta being upset with Diana's "over involvement" with fighting "little battles" and personal battles and get back to what Hippolyta thinks is the Amazon's role: to be an inspiration to men to spread love and peace. Something she doesn't think can be done swinging a sword.
Unfortunately, it's far easier to make a movie about small battles and individual challenges and lots of sword swinging against a single big baddie as opposed to using inspiration and love and peace as the source of change. Harder in any case to turn that into a huge act 3 CGI-fest.
Without a new idea, I suspect WW3 is going to be further along the same line that led from WW1 to WW2 and frankly wasn't good. I think that approach has been sucked dry.
But would the studios green light a significant change in the story arc (so to speak) that we've seen so far? Would they sign off on a Steve Trevor-less movie and give Diana another love interest?
As far as Covid's change in movie-going habits, I'm of the opinion that's changed forever. Until some new virtual reality scheme comes along that works at home, and is way better than 3D tech as we know it, I think we are stuck with reduced audiences at well-equipped theaters and more people watching on less impressive home setups, with challenges to charge high pay-for-view prices at home. Small screen is better for more in-depth character work while big screen obviously loves CGI super-orgasms.
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I think the poor third acts are due to studio requirements, and likely not where Jenkins would have gone on her own. Seems like the top management are very into massive CGI-fest fights as the culmination of the plot, which perhaps they think is expected of comic book movies. Maybe they are right for the mass audience who like big explosions on screen, bigger the better, but based on comments then and now, it doesn't work for this audience.
Although I really like Patty Jenkins's work, I think that both movies really suffered in the third act.jenkins I think is a great director and is passionate about the character so I’d be willing to give her a third shot. Sadly, very few sequels ever recapture the magic of the first one, no matter the director or the franchise
The reveal of Ares's identity in the first was quite underwhelming, especially when compared to what the JLU cartoon did with the same scenario.
WW84 simply lacked a really coherent story and the tear-jerker of bringing back Trevor was forced at best and a bit offensive at worst.
Don't know if studio management/thinking have changed, but regardless, I'm always up for another WW movie with Jenkins directing. Hopefully what worked in WW1 wasn't just novelty and only enjoyable during WW's first encounter with men and the world of men, and that it can be reused in some interesting way. Nothing wrong in my book about digging in deeper with Themyscira settings and stories that spill out into the larger world, perhaps with Artemis having a role in man's world.
Remember that Artemis was briefly WW back in the comics, and she's a lot more kick-ass than Diana, who in contrast to Artemis can reveal her compassion and love for mankind in the way she deals with Artemis' excesses. Or go back to the comic theme of Hippolyta being upset with Diana's "over involvement" with fighting "little battles" and personal battles and get back to what Hippolyta thinks is the Amazon's role: to be an inspiration to men to spread love and peace. Something she doesn't think can be done swinging a sword.
Unfortunately, it's far easier to make a movie about small battles and individual challenges and lots of sword swinging against a single big baddie as opposed to using inspiration and love and peace as the source of change. Harder in any case to turn that into a huge act 3 CGI-fest.
Without a new idea, I suspect WW3 is going to be further along the same line that led from WW1 to WW2 and frankly wasn't good. I think that approach has been sucked dry.
But would the studios green light a significant change in the story arc (so to speak) that we've seen so far? Would they sign off on a Steve Trevor-less movie and give Diana another love interest?
As far as Covid's change in movie-going habits, I'm of the opinion that's changed forever. Until some new virtual reality scheme comes along that works at home, and is way better than 3D tech as we know it, I think we are stuck with reduced audiences at well-equipped theaters and more people watching on less impressive home setups, with challenges to charge high pay-for-view prices at home. Small screen is better for more in-depth character work while big screen obviously loves CGI super-orgasms.
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