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Supergirl Commitment on CBS!!!!!

19 Sep 2014 17:18 - 19 Sep 2014 19:55 #38168 by lfan
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19 Sep 2014 17:29 - 19 Sep 2014 17:31 #38169 by castor
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Ehh makes sence.

WB has passed, Fox probabbly not. ABC is owned by Disney, so no also. I think i may have liked Cable but no....

that Leaves NBC and CBS.

NBC After a lot of sucess in the 90s, is a network that a couple of years ago was having trouble putting together budgets for 7 nights of television. I suspect this is at least going to be a semi costly show. There better now, They have tried big budget shows like Dracula, but they have been hit and miss-and i don't think they can affordto many misses.

CBS is the most popular network-but has done so largely on shows that appeal to an older demographic-going for like a superhero action show might be a good way to go younger-and maybe younger female demographic. That sounds very appealing. Now they have tried this before-but well it never got much attention. I suspect within 24 hours this is going to be a top trending story on facebook. Even if the show is a marginal hit-i think they would like a show that makes young people stop saying "Hey you watch a CBS show?? you can do that??"

So this is a series commtiment? well thats something -if nothign else its a way to keep a little more hearts and mind in that top trending story on facebook line- of course it has to be good.

But i do think its something. So cheers.
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19 Sep 2014 17:48 - 19 Sep 2014 17:52 #38170 by lfan
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I'm very excited that its happening at all but, that said, I woulda thought CBS would have been the most unlikely slot for her (aside from the obvious ABC/Marvel connection), given their reputation or lack thereof for dramas that don't prominently feature the letters "N, C, S, or I" in the title. They do cater to a younger demographic with some of their comedies (Big Bang Theory) and reality shows (Big Brother), but to me their lineup seems to cater more towards adults with news (60 minutes, 48 hours) and crime or legal dramas (Person of Interest, NCIS, CSI, Elementary, Blue Bloods, Criminal Minds, Good Wife).

They've never seemed interested in the sci-fi or superhero genre until now (Extent and now Supergirl), so it surprises me, especially given so many other options now aside from the major alphabet channels, with some that specifically cater to a younger, more progressive audience (MTV, AMC, SyFy, TNT, TBS).

Hopefully, CBS is turning a corner with their traditional fare and getting into more sci-fi/action based on their recent show, Extant, and now with Supergirl. It's still very exciting, at the least, to see the Girl of Steel (hopefully they don't "re-imagine" her too much) get her shot! One positive with it landing on CBS is maybe they will get away from the gritty, dark, angsty portrayal of superheroes that seems so prevalent over at the CW.....

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castor wrote: Ehh makes sence.

WB has passed, Fox probabbly not. ABC is owned by Disney, so no also. I think i may have liked Cable but no....

that Leaves NBC and CBS.

NBC After a lot of sucess in the 90s, is a network that a couple of years ago was having trouble putting together budgets for 7 nights of television. I suspect this is at least going to be a semi costly show. There better now, They have tried big budget shows like Dracula, but they have been hit and miss-and i don't think they can affordto many misses.

CBS is the most popular network-but has done so largely on shows that appeal to an older demographic-going for like a superhero action show might be a good way to go younger-and maybe younger female demographic. That sounds very appealing. Now they have tried this before-but well it never got much attention. I suspect within 24 hours this is going to be a top trending story on facebook. Even if the show is a marginal hit-i think they would like a show that makes young people stop saying "Hey you watch a CBS show?? you can do that??"

So this is a series commtiment? well thats something -if nothign else its a way to keep a little more hearts and mind in that top trending story on facebook line- of course it has to be good.

But i do think its something. So cheers.

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19 Sep 2014 18:23 #38172 by castor
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Well CBS has tried Sci Fi before -They Did Moonlight, Threshold, Century City-they didn't take but they did em. Hell Person of Intrest is a kind of "The Science Fiction isn't the Focus Show They have also done plenty of Action shows as well.

They also Did Wonder Woman, The incredible Hulk and the old Flash show. the 70s Wonder Woman was a giant hit it should be mentioned.

Your points are valid though about its perception-and if they do a show at least the first couple of weeks do a big audience and gets them big publicity as a show with a show that appeals to a Young Female Demographic-well they have got something.

And artistically-yeah well i hope they for example watch the Girl of Steel Short film. One thing i will say- i never really liked any of the action on SmallVille-which i thought was dull and unoriginal-they could never do a good job with the budget they had to make it seem like superman was on screen. But Arrow(from the same producer as this) as an action series, has some misses but has been much better at that taking a silly powerset (archery) and making it a lot more dynamic and exciting . Its tricky to make a flying Brick character of either gender on TV budget, but i will grant them some effor there. If they can do the kind of stuff that Girl of Steel does i think they will be interesting looking.

And if they can do an intresting likable protaginist- i do kind of maintain i would like some comedy but what ever-yeah why not.

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19 Sep 2014 18:49 - 19 Sep 2014 18:54 #38174 by dave147
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that's great news I wonder who going to get to play kara/supergirl in it I hope gets picked after plot etc looking more promising now at least plot will be made now
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19 Sep 2014 19:31 #38177 by shadar
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The field is very open considering this quote on the setting:

"Born on the planet Krypton, Kara Zor-El escaped amid its destruction years ago. Since arriving on Earth, she’s been hiding the powers she shares with her famous cousin. But now at age 24, she decides to embrace her superhuman abilities and be the hero she was always meant to be."

Mid-twenties is perfect (no teenage angst) and presumably she has a.career and a well-developed Earth-based lifestyle and background and identity, along with many friends who know nothing of her true nature. She's Linda first, but now she's going to try and become Supergirl. Excellent! A cornucopia of contemporary stories could flow from that background.

As far as actresses, ages 20 to about 30 will work. Lots and LOTS of good candidates with some acting chops in that age range.


dave147 wrote: that's great news I wonder who going to get to play kara/supergirl in it I hope gets picked after plot etc looking more promising now at least plot will be made now

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19 Sep 2014 19:45 #38178 by thewisewatcher
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This has got to be one of the biggest news stories in the history of this site, If they try casting her and all else fails, I say bring back Laura Vandervoot
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19 Sep 2014 20:06 #38179 by lfan
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thewisewatcher wrote: This has got to be one of the biggest news stories in the history of this site, If they try casting her and all else fails, I say bring back Laura Vandervoot


Writeup says Kara will be 24......Vandervoort is 29 so she's close to "believable range". Actually, I thought she was a little younger than 29......

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19 Sep 2014 21:22 #38180 by shadar
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I do believe that Jennifer Lawrence is 24. As seen here (slightly enhanced) with her hair blonde, we could do a lot worse than her for Supergirl, and as Linda she wears a dark wig. Jennifer looks pretty good either way, and she can portray someone learning about her true power.

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thewisewatcher wrote: This has got to be one of the biggest news stories in the history of this site, If they try casting her and all else fails, I say bring back Laura Vandervoot


Writeup says Kara will be 24......Vandervoort is 29 so she's close to "believable range". Actually, I thought she was a little younger than 29......

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19 Sep 2014 22:17 #38181 by fats
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Kate Upton would be better in my mind, better figure.

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19 Sep 2014 22:36 #38182 by dauntingmold
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Great news, and now the casting game can really begin :)

I'd love it to be Jennifer Lawrence, but she's too big a star to do TV. I'd love Laura Vandervoort, but I can't see CBS casting the Supergirl actress from another networks show, so i'm going to go with Ashley Benson.

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19 Sep 2014 22:42 #38183 by shadar
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fats wrote: Kate Upton would be better in my mind, better figure.

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And here she is, Kate doing the big unveiling -- Linda no more. Works for me.

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20 Sep 2014 00:55 #38188 by steelknight3000
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So if I understand this, they're going past the pilot stage?

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20 Sep 2014 03:31 - 20 Sep 2014 15:49 #38191 by castor
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steelknight3000 wrote: So if I understand this, they're going past the pilot stage?


Basically. Thats what the stuff trending on Facebook is saying :)

Actually this is the new trend in devolopment - it used to be you ordered a show devoloped it and shot...one year-and if they liked it 9 months to a year latter start the actual series if the networks like it.

This is actually for a number of reasons kind of silly-casts can change, sets are expensive to store...but well if you get a stinker its nice to see something.

under the new model you do a first episode, then you start immediately on the new show-which is faster and more intense. Since this is getting a large amount of publicity its good.

That said-a couple of show-Heiroglypth was a show on fox that was suppose to happen-they canceled it right after they shot the first episode, and it never aired-so yeah-commitment doesn't necessarily means your going to see it on air(though somewhere this is going to get out).

As for actresses--Jennifer Lawrence......no.

But i do think a big but lesser name is possible. Will see. I would almost say someone like Kate Upton is in the realm of possibility, but i doubt here. When studios say 24-well thats rarely actually 24. I am going to guess anywhere between 20 and 30(there have been shows where actresses who have played teans have been in there *late* 30s). I also think a total unkown is in the realm-but lets see.


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20 Sep 2014 03:48 #38193 by Random321
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I know some of this is in the comicbookresources.com link Larafan posted - but here is on the DCComics blog too.

www.dccomics.com/blog/2014/09/19/breakin...ls-getting-a-tv-show

The write up is so perfect: mid twenties age, coming out of the shadows to be a hero part, pilot + commitment. It's hard to keep back my enthusiasm - I really don't want to be disappointed all the sudden.

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20 Sep 2014 07:31 #38198 by oldHarmonyMotion
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I have no speculations and no comments, save this one:

WOW!!!!!!!
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20 Sep 2014 08:19 #38199 by mo
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Somebody pinch me, I must be dreaming!
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20 Sep 2014 13:11 #38201 by shadoolord1979
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As excited as this sounds I want this show stick for at least 1 full season. I think they might do a good job if they get the casting right. I am certain a series like this can do well if a network sticks with it. If they do it will be a good step in the right direction for a series like this. I am just crossing my fingers hoping this series has a chance to do something before it is cancelled.

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20 Sep 2014 13:42 #38202 by smoki07
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If dc is relaying the news, it's a real commitment but let's see what next.

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20 Sep 2014 14:48 #38205 by AJF
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It's been reported that CBS paid more money for Supergirl than Fox paid WBTV for Gotham.

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20 Sep 2014 17:43 #38208 by lfan
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AJF wrote: It's been reported that CBS paid more money for Supergirl than Fox paid WBTV for Gotham.


It's being reported that the commitment is for more episodes as well. I wrote before that I didn't think the demographic was an ideal fit, but what's probably more worrisome is the history that the major networks aren't as patient as the smaller networks when it comes to ratings. Smallville's numbers were hardly that great but still managed to last 10 years at the CW.

That's what make the news that CBS paid so much for it even better -- they might give it the benefit of a chance rather than pulling the hook on it so quickly.

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20 Sep 2014 18:06 - 20 Sep 2014 18:31 #38209 by castor
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lfan wrote:

AJF wrote: It's been reported that CBS paid more money for Supergirl than Fox paid WBTV for Gotham.


It's being reported that the commitment is for more episodes as well. I wrote before that I didn't think the demographic was an ideal fit, but what's probably more worrisome is the history that the major networks aren't as patient as the smaller networks when it comes to ratings. Smallville's numbers were hardly that great but still managed to last 10 years at the CW.

That's what make the news that CBS paid so much for it even better -- they might give it the benefit of a chance rather than pulling the hook on it so quickly.

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Well before any casting or a preview image has been shot-well i doubt we are going to get 10 years, but who knows.

As i have said before i think a large reason for this is-well to change the Demographics.If they can do a show that gets decent ratings but schews younger and gets attention then CBS will be happy. Particularly if thats younger and female.

Agents of Shield is a good example. While i know a lot of people liked the last couple of episodes and it had a reputation as a show that got better-well the first episode i think left a lot of people disapointed(me included)-however it got a lot of buzz and has done okay enough in the ratings that there going to keep it around for a second year at least. Hanibal is another example-it gets fairly bad ratings with a high costs -but its getting another season, in large part i have heard becuse its a critical darling.

That said the numbers are tricky. If it does have a really huge budget- i doubt thats really licensing the character, or cast. What i suspect thats going to is Effects. Which you want-hey flying super strength-but TV special effects is a tricky thing over 22 episodes. Its not just money but time. Even still you get laughable things even on super high budget items-cause high budget TV is still about what they pay to do an asylum movie.

and my worry is...if they fuck that up..well that could be the end pretty quick. Bad enough before a single episode shows up.

But this is the problem.The complaint agianst Agents of Shield was...well it wasn't really a superhero show(i think in good part because well they knew this). The compaint agianst Smallville was well similar especially at first. It succeeded by not really trying. Arrow and it looks like the Flash are trying, and good for them...Becuse if Supergirl doesn't try..well....i doubt i am going to like it, and i would argue i doubt the american public will like it. but trying means the risk of failing.


But i am not saying that it can't be done. Lois and Clark was the last time they really tried to super on screen and it holds up okay in a lot of places- stuff like greenscreen and camera techniques have really impoved over the last 15 years to. I am not including CGI becuse that is still problematic but well maybe. But lets see. Interested to see what they come up with.

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20 Sep 2014 18:33 - 20 Sep 2014 19:41 #38210 by shadar
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Possibly they will minimize the product cost and challenges by using Smallville grade special effects. Not ideal for most of us (although likely affordable special effects are a bit better than was available to Smallville) but that might be the trade-off.

Recall they are starting with her living an ordinary life, and now she's going to try and live up to her cousin's reputation. Which is one hell of a hill to climb. She perhaps has the raw power, but no training or experience. She's going to make some colossal mistakes when coming up against bad guys who have perfected the art of crime in a world with Superman (and presumably Batman). Fighting Super-villains if you will.

Given the usual cast of characters in such stories, there will be the muse, mentor, sidekick, etc. who will help and hinder her. Possibly a love interest who might be a challenge (given he presumably doesn't know her secret). Maybe even a special friend like Wonder Girl or some other super. Who knows.

I suppose it will open with a slice of life view of her world, which will lead to some crisis that convinces her that she has to claim her birthright and protect people. At least that's how I'd do it. The crisis and her decision to become Supergirl should happen during the pilot so as to create interest for the follow-ons.

Anyone got a better idea? Potential plots and characterization is probably more interesting than speculating on an actress at this point, who will probably be cheap and relatively unknown for cost reasons. That could still be good if they choose well. Remember Helen Slater was mostly an unknown in 1984.
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20 Sep 2014 22:43 #38211 by RAStone
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shadar wrote: Recall they are starting with her living an ordinary life, and now she's going to try and live up to her cousin's reputation. Which is one hell of a hill to climb. She perhaps has the raw power, but no training or experience. She's going to make some colossal mistakes when coming up against bad guys who have perfected the art of crime in a world with Superman (and presumably Batman). Fighting Super-villains if you will.

Given the usual cast of characters in such stories, there will be the muse, mentor, sidekick, etc. who will help and hinder her. Possibly a love interest who might be a challenge (given he presumably doesn't know her secret). Maybe even a special friend like Wonder Girl or some other super. Who knows.

I suppose it will open with a slice of life view of her world, which will lead to some crisis that convinces her that she has to claim her birthright and protect people. At least that's how I'd do it. The crisis and her decision to become Supergirl should happen during the pilot so as to create interest for the follow-ons.


I vote for Shadar to write the first season. I like the "trying to find her way and come into her own" angle.

Has anybody seen a mention of whether she will be in costume or not?

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20 Sep 2014 23:34 #38213 by Sarge395
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A little history less on Supergirl. Not all inclusive. I'm just hoping to see the CBS Supergirl in costume, good looking, and a lot of flying and other FX.

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