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Superhero Line-up on Teen Titans pilot

02 Feb 2015 21:08 #40202 by erikphandel
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Guys

GUYS

WE'RE GETTING LIVE ACTION STARFIRE

www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=114717

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02 Feb 2015 21:33 #40203 by lfan
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erikphandel wrote: Guys

GUYS

WE'RE GETTING LIVE ACTION STARFIRE

www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=114717


Yay!

But no Cassie or Wondergirl (at least for now)......

Boo!

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02 Feb 2015 22:26 #40204 by Sarge395
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And many of them can fly. Bet they will be more grounded on the series.

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02 Feb 2015 22:48 #40205 by shadar
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Sarge395 wrote: And many of them can fly. Bet they will be more grounded on the series.


The translation from comic book to live action loses one of the things that has always fascinated me most in this genre: people floating around casually in mid-air. CGI or special-effects budget would be over the top to do in live-action.

Until animation becomes indistinguishable from live-action (hopefully in my lifetime), then I'll miss seeing scenes like the following:

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02 Feb 2015 23:31 #40206 by castor
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Flying-either with a crane, or greenscreen isn;t *hard* to do in live action. Not easy either, but well as compared to blowing up a truck or something its reasonably easy to do on screen especially if you plan your camera moves in advance. Lois and Clark, did it a lot of Early 90s vampire stuff(where it was a trope)

And in general..god one them. Starfire, Dove, Raven...oracle. it Looks tenativly like a mostly female cast. Thats something. Starfire is a tricky character to introduce into a realistic show-but who knows this could be fun.

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02 Feb 2015 23:56 #40207 by TwiceOnThursdays
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I suspect that some of the missing heroes are missing for "reasons".

Kid Flash due to Flash. Considering Nightwing's age, we'd get a Wally that wasn't too much younger than Flash in his CW show and that wouldn't do. Cyborg might be missing due to JLA, and them not wanting to mix things up with him now. In the new DC52 he's JLA and not Titans. I know this isn't the current DC52 titans (or any previous titans either), but DC does have "plans" for characters and probably wants to make sure that Marvel's predicament of noting being able to use a bunch of characters doesn't happen to them.

Not sure why we don't get Wonder Girl and Superboy, but it might be to remove the show from dependencies upon the Superman and Wonder Woman mythos (keeping those open for other shows/movies).

Changling is the big one missing -- it could be simply that he's just not enough of a pull to consider. I think he was fairly well liked in the Titans cartoon, but they could be trying to distance from the cartoon and pervious incarnations. Might be special effects budget and not wanting to work with all those animals. Plus he's probably not sexy enough, look at the rest of the proposed heroes! Nightwing the boy-toy of the DCU with a legendary ass. Starfire, simmering sex in a bikini with a gland condition. Oracle for that hot nerd girl. Raven for the hot goth chick with repressed emotions and Daddy issues. And Hawk for that Alpha male bad-boy.

They are also starting at a much older age (Dick is policeman), and we've removed all "sidekick" heroes except Dick and Babs and they're joining not as Robin and Batgirl, but as Nightwing and Oracle. The "no sidekick" could be the rule -- it'd remove Aqualad, Kid Flash, Wonder Girl, and Superboy.

Out of all the ones missing the one I'd want to add the most would be Wonder Girl (any version, but they lack a blond, which is unusual for a sexy hero list like this, so probably Cassie).

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03 Feb 2015 02:33 #40212 by erikphandel
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Well, even if these characters don't show up in the pilot, or don't make it to the main roster, they'll certainly appear in some point of the show. Classic members of the Titans like Beast Boy or Cyborg especially

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04 Feb 2015 01:02 #40230 by clipfreak
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I haven't seen the cartoon, could someone post the female characters powers/stats please, or are they all above normal strong? In such case an indication of their level (times normal strength for example) would be appreciated.

Or maybe I should just watch the cartoon first?

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04 Feb 2015 02:06 - 04 Feb 2015 02:07 #40232 by castor
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clipfreak wrote: I haven't seen the cartoon, could someone post the female characters powers/stats please, or are they all above normal strong? In such case an indication of their level (times normal strength for example) would be appreciated.

Or maybe I should just watch the cartoon first?


Well it looks like this isn't based on the cartoon but

Starfire- is a classic flying brick-super strong, Can Fly at supersonic speed invulnerable. She absorbs ultraviolet Radiation and can shoot it in powerful energy blasts. Also if she touches a person she can learn there language, which can come in handy as shes a reddish skin alien. Shes the badass of the group.

[Starfire is a fun character though she gets some deserved flack for being a sexy alien girl, who doesn't wear a lot in the comic-a lot of the humor in the cartoon tended to be "culture shock i have no idea how the world works type". Not quite sure how they are going to do an alien character in live action. If nothing else i have worked with and know from experience it takes hours to do alien skin stuff]

The rest

Raven-has no super strength at all. Shes more a magic character. She can absorb and heal injuries and project them on to others, as well as create beings and matter of absulutue darkness as well as other powers(sometimes as the plot demands).

[Raven is the moopy avoid people type in comics goth-shes part human part demon and most of her stories tend to be angsty explorations of this. Not really a fan-shes seems to be a marvel character trapped in a DC book. Though live action TV might be a good fit for her, as one of the problems i have with her is you never see her day to day to life its hard for her to get a sense of the humanity shes lost]

Dove: Well as once said about Captian planet...shes has the power of Heart-which is kind of lame power. She has the ability to make people love each other theroetically to see what there issues are and to suggest non violent sollutions to problems.

She can also fly, and has enhanced agility-but no real offensive powers at all. That goes to Hawk, whose powers are all about offense, and being super strong. (and be a metaphor for the last days of the Vietnam war).

[Hawk and Dove can be intresting in small doses-as they are intresting counterpoints, when you can see the non violent stuff trying. However as part of teams they kind of get lost, especially dove]

Oracle- has no superpowers-however shes a superhacker and investigator with a lot of connections to crime, intelegence and cyberspace. She is the former Batgirl so she knows her way around things. She is also Trapped in A wheelchar, though she ocasionally is handy enough around it.

[Fun character. She tends to be the support-bug in an ear while the hero has adventures type. The tried it in the short lived Bird and Prey show-where she was okay, if a touch bland in a bland poorly acted show-but well theres potential here. Shes a good not nice character)

So four women. And the show suggests two men. if nothing else in 2015..ehh thats something.

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04 Feb 2015 02:38 #40233 by TwiceOnThursdays
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clipfreak wrote: I haven't seen the cartoon, could someone post the female characters powers/stats please, or are they all above normal strong? In such case an indication of their level (times normal strength for example) would be appreciated.

Or maybe I should just watch the cartoon first?


The cartoon will give you an idea about Starfire and Raven, but not Dove or the rest. This is a new mix. Raven's backstory also changes a bit depending on the telling, as I think does Starfire's physical strength.

Here's a nice tumblr to give you an idea of Starfire's strength in the cartoon. She was the strongest Teen Titan, though they really didn't stress that too much. She fought with her powers (energy projection/flying) more than her strength. She's really a great character in the cartoon.

miiyahbinmarten.tumblr.com/post/62638688...ou-but-i-am-stronger

Also watch Teen Titans, not Teen Titans Go. one is awesome, the other not so much.

Oracle/Batgirl has normal human strength, just an aberrant strength of will (I think she's make Hal Jordan look weak), lots of training, and a photographic memory coupled with some high level intellect.

Dove, depending on the incarnation, should have some level of super-strength, but it's only a few multiples of a normal human at best. She's not the "lift a car type", just stronger than she appears to be. Hawk on the other hand is much stronger/durable. Think of them as the yin/yang of martial arts, one is more the akido/judo/tai chi redirect force/skill and the other is use of force -- punching/karate/kung Fu (and I probably nicely managed centuries old marital arts there).

I would think Raven's strength would be that of a normal human woman -- but since she is telekinetic and possesses a host of other powers (she's a bit hard to pin down again, as her powers change a bit, she's an empath, can heal, can fire force bolts, has a soul self that can do a host of things, can teleport, etc), it's likely that she'd be able to boost her strength telekinetically if needed.

So, there is a good chance that Nightwing is the second weakest person on the team, in order: Starfire, Hawk, Dove, Raven, Nightwing, Oracle. (Though how much Raven cheats will move her on that scale. But she might find cheating against Dove harder, as Dove has some sensory/mystical abilities too. If Raven doesn't cheat, she'd be the physically weakest on the team, as Oracle, even when confined to a wheel chair, exercises all the time, and she's been known to beat the crap out of people from her wheel chair (when she meets up with Joker again is one of the best scenes in all of comics.) That said, Raven's power level is variable, but considerable. She's arguably the most powerful on this team, she just has some limitations too: which vary depending on her backstory, mostly she needs to keep a tight reign on her emotions, if she looses control, she might totally loose control and that's bad for everyone ... her father is a demonic bad ass, trying to use her to bridge through to this reality. And by "bad ass" i Mean, "can reshape the entire world" level of bad ass. If Raven cuts loose her power level goes through the roof, she's her father's daughter. But her humanity starts to slip away then, and not good for anyone (including her).
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04 Feb 2015 03:03 #40236 by clipfreak
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Thank you very much for this back ground info.

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04 Feb 2015 03:54 - 04 Feb 2015 03:59 #40237 by oldHarmonyMotion
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I enjoy Teen Titans Go, but it definitely isn't a superhero cartoon anymore.

Teen Titans season 2 was amazingly dark. Final episode of the series was so so so sad.
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