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10 Sep 2018 17:42 #61030
by shadar
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Think they had enough echo in that "god-voice"?
Age of the primary demographic: 4-6 years.
I would have loved it in 1952..
Now...even my youngest grand-kids are too old for this.
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Age of the primary demographic: 4-6 years.
I would have loved it in 1952..
Now...even my youngest grand-kids are too old for this.
Shadar
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10 Sep 2018 18:23 #61031
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I'll check out the first couple of episodes. Could be a fun thing.
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10 Sep 2018 19:33 #61032
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I think it worked better when I saw the animation. I'm going to hold off judgment until I see it all in full context. I definitely watch (or start watching) the first episode to see how it is. Everyone else seems really down on this, and it's not like I don't see the problems. I too wish the animation was better. But it is what it is. She-Ra is buffer than I expected her to be, she looks pretty good in the frames where she's smacking her hands together.
I liked the voice acting on Alara/She-Ra. A little bit shouty on the last note of Greyskull, but we'll see how it fits with the show. That line is supposed to be over the top, it was fairly sedate in the original (compare to He-Man's "I HAVE THE POWER!".)
On a different token, there is a documentary called "Power Of Greyskull" on netflix about the history of He-Man (and some about She-Ra). I found it much more interesting than I expected too. The story of how Battlecat came about just makes me laugh.
They interview JMS a bit (co-creator of She-Ra, Babylon 5, etc). And I found out that an author I like Barbara Hambly wrote for She-Ra.
There were a bunch of comments on how She-Ra wasn't allowed to punch anyone. (The writers thought it was stupid that she couldn't.)
I liked the voice acting on Alara/She-Ra. A little bit shouty on the last note of Greyskull, but we'll see how it fits with the show. That line is supposed to be over the top, it was fairly sedate in the original (compare to He-Man's "I HAVE THE POWER!".)
On a different token, there is a documentary called "Power Of Greyskull" on netflix about the history of He-Man (and some about She-Ra). I found it much more interesting than I expected too. The story of how Battlecat came about just makes me laugh.
They interview JMS a bit (co-creator of She-Ra, Babylon 5, etc). And I found out that an author I like Barbara Hambly wrote for She-Ra.
There were a bunch of comments on how She-Ra wasn't allowed to punch anyone. (The writers thought it was stupid that she couldn't.)
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10 Sep 2018 19:39 #61033
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ToT....totally agree that it looked better in animated form than those screen shots. I didn't really care for the transformation looking so Sailor Moon-ish though. I thought the same thing on the voice actress. She sounded pretty good and very animated (no pun intended) during the clip. I'll give it a looksee before I indict it....
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TwiceOnThursdays wrote: I think it worked better when I saw the animation. I'm going to hold off judgment until I see it all in full context. I definitely watch (or start watching) the first episode to see how it is. Everyone else seems really down on this, and it's not like I don't see the problems. I too wish the animation was better. But it is what it is. She-Ra is buffer than I expected her to be, she looks pretty good in the frames where she's smacking her hands together.
I liked the voice acting on Alara/She-Ra. A little bit shouty on the last note of Greyskull, but we'll see how it fits with the show. That line is supposed to be over the top, it was fairly sedate in the original (compare to He-Man's "I HAVE THE POWER!".)
On a different token, there is a documentary called "Power Of Greyskull" on netflix about the history of He-Man (and some about She-Ra). I found it much more interesting than I expected too. The story of how Battlecat came about just makes me laugh.
They interview JMS a bit (co-creator of She-Ra, Babylon 5, etc). And I found out that an author I like Barbara Hambly wrote for She-Ra.
There were a bunch of comments on how She-Ra wasn't allowed to punch anyone. (The writers thought it was stupid that she couldn't.)
ToT....totally agree that it looked better in animated form than those screen shots. I didn't really care for the transformation looking so Sailor Moon-ish though. I thought the same thing on the voice actress. She sounded pretty good and very animated (no pun intended) during the clip. I'll give it a looksee before I indict it....
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10 Sep 2018 20:59 #61034
by Markiehoe
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I am going to fall back on a statement I made in another thread.
It is 2018 now, we have access to the most powerful computers ever made.
Animation should be moving forward.
Not backwards.
"It is what it is." just does not cut it for me.
This is not a Fan Made project.
There is real money behind this.
The Producers are just cheap, have no respect for the audience and i am not buying.
There is a world full of animation from the 1940s to the present day that is way better than this that I have not seen yet.
It is 2018 now, we have access to the most powerful computers ever made.
Animation should be moving forward.
Not backwards.
"It is what it is." just does not cut it for me.
This is not a Fan Made project.
There is real money behind this.
The Producers are just cheap, have no respect for the audience and i am not buying.
There is a world full of animation from the 1940s to the present day that is way better than this that I have not seen yet.
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10 Sep 2018 23:11 #61039
by TwiceOnThursdays
I admire your passion.
What i meant by "it is waht it is" is that nothing we say/do/complain about is going to alter what is delivered. It is what it is. We simply get the choice to watch/not watch. (and discuss naturally.) Got no problem with that, it's 100% as it should be.
What I take exception to is you ascribing movies to the producers. They are "cheap" and "have no respect for the audience".
Do you know this for a fact or are you just upset that they created something you don't like and therefore they are stupid/bad?
Others seem to like what is made (not here, other places on the web). If something is being made that people LIKE then it's not probably not being done with no respect for an audience.
(To be fair we don't REALLY know if people like this until they see it.)
This is ENTIRELY othogonal about your comments on animation BTW. They cover some of the same ground but are not related.
Or do you know something specific about the producers (heard some actual gossip)?
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Markiehoe wrote: I am going to fall back on a statement I made in another thread.
It is 2018 now, we have access to the most powerful computers ever made.
Animation should be moving forward.
Not backwards.
"It is what it is." just does not cut it for me.
This is not a Fan Made project.
There is real money behind this.
The Producers are just cheap, have no respect for the audience and i am not buying.
There is a world full of animation from the 1940s to the present day that is way better than this that I have not seen yet.
I admire your passion.
What i meant by "it is waht it is" is that nothing we say/do/complain about is going to alter what is delivered. It is what it is. We simply get the choice to watch/not watch. (and discuss naturally.) Got no problem with that, it's 100% as it should be.
What I take exception to is you ascribing movies to the producers. They are "cheap" and "have no respect for the audience".
Do you know this for a fact or are you just upset that they created something you don't like and therefore they are stupid/bad?
Others seem to like what is made (not here, other places on the web). If something is being made that people LIKE then it's not probably not being done with no respect for an audience.
(To be fair we don't REALLY know if people like this until they see it.)
This is ENTIRELY othogonal about your comments on animation BTW. They cover some of the same ground but are not related.
Or do you know something specific about the producers (heard some actual gossip)?
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11 Sep 2018 00:19 #61042
by Markiehoe
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I have no inside information.
Hollywood is a business just like any other.
A time tested business model goes like this.
Produce a product for as cheaply as possible and sell it for as much as possible.
This is exactly what these producers/ businessmen have done.
Art has very little to do with it.
Hollywood is a business just like any other.
A time tested business model goes like this.
Produce a product for as cheaply as possible and sell it for as much as possible.
This is exactly what these producers/ businessmen have done.
Art has very little to do with it.
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11 Sep 2018 00:43 #61044
by Starforge
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I agree that there is little excuse under current technology to not make better animation.
That being said, if this is going to be marketed not to adults but to children you prop in front of the TV, I'm not certain that spending extra money on quality animation is going to matter.
I remember both of these when they came out but by then I was working and past the cartoon stage. Having tried to re-watch the old ones on Netflix - they aren't exactly examples of quality writing or animation. Set up episode, bit of humor, transformation to She-Ra, beat up stupid over-stereotyped and incompetent bad guys, bit of humor and resolution all fit in slightly over 20 minutes between commercials.
I'll give this one a look when it comes out, but my expectation is that if it's like the original and geared for children, it's likely not going to be written well enough to be binge-worthy.
That being said, if this is going to be marketed not to adults but to children you prop in front of the TV, I'm not certain that spending extra money on quality animation is going to matter.
I remember both of these when they came out but by then I was working and past the cartoon stage. Having tried to re-watch the old ones on Netflix - they aren't exactly examples of quality writing or animation. Set up episode, bit of humor, transformation to She-Ra, beat up stupid over-stereotyped and incompetent bad guys, bit of humor and resolution all fit in slightly over 20 minutes between commercials.
I'll give this one a look when it comes out, but my expectation is that if it's like the original and geared for children, it's likely not going to be written well enough to be binge-worthy.
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11 Sep 2018 05:02 #61055
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It's strange to think of going for a younger demographic than the original, but perhaps Netflix sees a gap in their current offerings and is trying to squeeze this into those parameters. It's not what I'd like to see but hopefully it will do well enough for them to want to expand on the idea... perhaps upgrade the animation budget or perhaps look to expand the target audience in the future.
One detail I caught... apparently there will be more than one princess ... "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power".
One detail I caught... apparently there will be more than one princess ... "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power".
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12 Sep 2018 04:06 - 12 Sep 2018 04:07 #61073
by shadar
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If people buy and/or watch lousy animation, then they are creating a market for it and more of the same will come.
That said, the times you do see animation quality make large jumps, it's not because of pull (audience demand) but rather due to push from someone influential who can convince the studios to take a big risk on a big investment. Also the availability of enough computer power at the right price. Example: Avatar.
Progress is only made because there are designers and programmers and artists who are passionate about quality, and that's what they've chosen to make their life's work. Thank goodness for those who fight (and they really have to fight) to advance the state-of-the-art.
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That said, the times you do see animation quality make large jumps, it's not because of pull (audience demand) but rather due to push from someone influential who can convince the studios to take a big risk on a big investment. Also the availability of enough computer power at the right price. Example: Avatar.
Progress is only made because there are designers and programmers and artists who are passionate about quality, and that's what they've chosen to make their life's work. Thank goodness for those who fight (and they really have to fight) to advance the state-of-the-art.
Shadar
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12 Sep 2018 12:09 #61078
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Voice acting aside, I'm not going to write this one off straight away, but I think that Adore looks way better than She-Ra in this incarnation. I think it's the fact that they tried to make She-Ra way too etheral with the crazy hair and the extremely bright highlights, whereas Adora looks more solid, more real.
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16 Sep 2018 15:02 #61163
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While I am quite encouraged by the build of this new She-Ra, I am reserving judgement until I see how Adora's personality is like.
I agree with Woodclaw, her voice in the trailer sounds a bit forced and unnatural, but again, reserving judgement until the product comes out. I really want to see her succeed.
I agree with Woodclaw, her voice in the trailer sounds a bit forced and unnatural, but again, reserving judgement until the product comes out. I really want to see her succeed.
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16 Sep 2018 19:53 #61169
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I don't mind the Magical Girl transformation as long as she kicks ass. She's got a sword and super-strength and the writers of the original couldn't write her punching people because of weird censorship that I guess won't be enforced in a Netflix show, even if they go for an "all audiences" project.
Yeah, count me in on the "will wait until I actually see the show" camp.
Yeah, count me in on the "will wait until I actually see the show" camp.
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07 Oct 2018 21:51 #61492
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Trailer for the She-Ra reboot :
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08 Oct 2018 02:41 #61493
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I like the humor. Could be fun, but I'm not holding onto much hope beyond this.
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08 Oct 2018 05:33 #61494
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... I just... just can't get over how her face as She-Ra is just drawn way too poorly for my taste; she actually looks more feminine as Adora.
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09 Oct 2018 16:58 #61508
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I notice there's no mention of He-Man in the trailer. Looks like this time She-Ra will be the main event.
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09 Oct 2018 18:11 #61509
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I always wanted to see Adam hand Adora her sword and say 'just hold it up, and say this...'
'Wh...What? That sounds ridiculous!! "
"Just try it sis"
"Umm...ok...what was it again?..FOR THE HONOUR OF"
and a legend is born. Pity she never got her own movie like him
'Wh...What? That sounds ridiculous!! "
"Just try it sis"
"Umm...ok...what was it again?..FOR THE HONOUR OF"
and a legend is born. Pity she never got her own movie like him
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09 Oct 2018 18:22 #61510
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That's not actually that different from the origin of Mary Marvel in Wow comics. I hope they put Mary in a movie or TV show. I figured she'd be a shoo-in for at least one guest appearance on Supergirl, but it hasn't happened yet
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Monty wrote: I always wanted to see Adam hand Adora her sword and say 'just hold it up, and say this...'
'Wh...What? That sounds ridiculous!! "
"Just try it sis"
"Umm...ok...what was it again?..FOR THE HONOUR OF"
and a legend is born. Pity she never got her own movie like him
That's not actually that different from the origin of Mary Marvel in Wow comics. I hope they put Mary in a movie or TV show. I figured she'd be a shoo-in for at least one guest appearance on Supergirl, but it hasn't happened yet
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15 Nov 2018 19:21 #62041
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Not sure if people forgot about this or just stopped caring.
But hey, the show is out and is actually decent.
It's not an action show, so don't expect She-Ra to do a lot of ass kicking. Interesting thing I didn't notice in the trailers is that She-Ra is pretty darn big.
But hey, the show is out and is actually decent.
It's not an action show, so don't expect She-Ra to do a lot of ass kicking. Interesting thing I didn't notice in the trailers is that She-Ra is pretty darn big.
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15 Nov 2018 21:40 #62044
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i miss the old show and animation but this isn't bad. Especially well done is the relationship between Catra and Adora. Very well written dialog IMO. The action is less than prior series and SheRa is almost depowered and on he same plane power-wise as the other princesses. Still it's not bad and worth catching if you were a fan of eh old show.
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ChaozCloud wrote: Not sure if people forgot about this or just stopped caring.
But hey, the show is out and is actually decent.
It's not an action show, so don't expect She-Ra to do a lot of ass kicking. Interesting thing I didn't notice in the trailers is that She-Ra is pretty darn big.
i miss the old show and animation but this isn't bad. Especially well done is the relationship between Catra and Adora. Very well written dialog IMO. The action is less than prior series and SheRa is almost depowered and on he same plane power-wise as the other princesses. Still it's not bad and worth catching if you were a fan of eh old show.
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15 Nov 2018 22:22 #62046
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So if she is depowered, what makes her the superheroine in this version?
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lfan wrote: SheRa is almost depowered and on he same plane power-wise as the other princesses.
So if she is depowered, what makes her the superheroine in this version?
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15 Nov 2018 22:38 #62047
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when I mean depowered, I mean two fold:
1. Her strength and power are not showcased like in the first series and she doesn't seem nearly as powerful
2. The other princesses are spotlighted just as much as her at different times. It's not SheRa vs the Horde as much as in the previous series but SheRa and friends
she definitely is super strong and the leader of the rebellion so that clearly makes her a superheroine.
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Agent00Soul wrote:
lfan wrote: SheRa is almost depowered and on he same plane power-wise as the other princesses.
So if she is depowered, what makes her the superheroine in this version?
when I mean depowered, I mean two fold:
1. Her strength and power are not showcased like in the first series and she doesn't seem nearly as powerful
2. The other princesses are spotlighted just as much as her at different times. It's not SheRa vs the Horde as much as in the previous series but SheRa and friends
she definitely is super strong and the leader of the rebellion so that clearly makes her a superheroine.
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16 Nov 2018 00:16 - 16 Nov 2018 00:17 #62050
by Mynn
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What? How many episodes did you get through dear?
I watched the first four and thought Adora was already very strong compared to her 80's counterpart and the sword of power gave her a massive buff, pun intended considering the things she sliced and ripped up.
Sure, she's not lifting mountains yet but I wouldn't say she's de-powered. More like showing off less save for a scene in an episode which I thought was cute.
I watched the first four and thought Adora was already very strong compared to her 80's counterpart and the sword of power gave her a massive buff, pun intended considering the things she sliced and ripped up.
Sure, she's not lifting mountains yet but I wouldn't say she's de-powered. More like showing off less save for a scene in an episode which I thought was cute.
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16 Nov 2018 00:35 #62051
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I agree that Catra and Adora is the best part of the show. Kinda wish they went more into the relationship between Adora and Shadow Weaver a bit more. Felt like they wanted to show that SW actually cares for Adora like a mother.
Dunno about the strength, as I can't remember much from the original.
But I do agree that She-Ra doesn't feel that special. But that's because the other princesses feel really powerful, well Perfuma, the mermaid and the frost one at least.
The characters are likable, though not very interesting. Feels like the show would have benefited from being longer, so it had some time to flesh out the characters.
Also wish they made the horde feel more like a threat.
Dunno about the strength, as I can't remember much from the original.
But I do agree that She-Ra doesn't feel that special. But that's because the other princesses feel really powerful, well Perfuma, the mermaid and the frost one at least.
The characters are likable, though not very interesting. Feels like the show would have benefited from being longer, so it had some time to flesh out the characters.
Also wish they made the horde feel more like a threat.
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