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12 Aug 2021 00:57 #72072 by TwiceOnThursdays
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It's been mentioned here before, Marvel's new show What If? debuted today on Disney+.  The first episode (hinted at I the numerous trailers) is What If... Captain Carter Were the First Avenger?

Although her growth isn't shown (as in the CA: First Avenger movie it happens inside a steal cocoon).  She does step out noticeably taller and beefier, and they do show her towering over men often.

There are some nice fight scenes with some good moderate strength feats.  She doesn't seem to be able to toss tanks around, but she can toss motorcycles, run as fast as a motorcycle, flip trucks, and effortless rip cage doors off.  All in all a nice send up of the topic.  There is also a nice  (short) workout routine.

The animation is slightly off to me, but it's serviceable.  You get a good idea of what it's like from the trailers.  It does work really well in parts, and is a bit dodgy in others.

Overall, if you have Disney + not a bad way to spend a half hour.  It's biggest failing is that I could have watched Peggy tossing dudes around and ripping off doors for much longer.  Though if you want more comics Captain Carter .. she was in the last Exiles series (it's where she appeared.. Exiles is essentially a group of people traveling through What if worlds and fixing things.)

I'm not sure if they'll loop back around to Captain Carter again traditional What If doesn't normally do that .. but Exiles has (in some of it's incarnations) and from the first episode they're obviously pulling from there too.  Hopefully it's not the last we've seen of Captain Carter.
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14 Aug 2021 02:38 - 14 Aug 2021 02:41 #72081 by grungykitten
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I just saw it, and I think you're hugely underselling it.

Captain Carter is brutal when she fights. She demolishes hordes of Nazis in gruesome ways, and she has fun doing it. Every blow hits with a meaty thud in a testament to her power. She even tortures a guy (but of course they can't show that kind of thing on Disney+). And not only does she fight Nazis, she also has to fight for the respect of her commander.

It was glorious, and I'm gonna have to run it back a few times.
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14 Aug 2021 13:11 #72082 by lfan
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It’s pretty clear that the formula has a profound effect on Peggy than than the original Capt America! As Peggy says “it is brilliant!”

I certainly hope this isn’t the last we’ve seen of her in this form

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14 Aug 2021 13:58 #72083 by Monty
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There is a great portrayal of Peggy Carter on DA. I didn't know anything about the series 'What If?' and wondered what the transformation pic of Peggy was all about.

Most certainly will if you Google;

'deviantart agent carter transformed!'

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14 Aug 2021 14:13 #72084 by DustyBottums
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Agreed! I was shocked (and overjoyed) that Disney didn't hesitate in letting Peggy kick some serious butt. Normally, the female heroes are limited to fighting the female baddies, or worse, they hesitate or pull their punches. NOT HERE! Super Peggy is a whirling, kicking, pucnhing, leg-snapping dealer of punishment, and it's evident that she LOVES being able to do it. WOW. Between this, and the recent butt-kicking WW in the Justice League WWII movie, I'm in animated heroine heaven.
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14 Aug 2021 14:24 #72085 by www1969
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I certainly hope this isn’t the last we’ve seen of her in this form

 
Marvel is saying that each season of What If? will contain a Captain Carter story.
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21 Aug 2021 17:51 #72121 by guimachajo1
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I just saw the chapter of What if? from Captain Carter.

I liked a lot. Despite the fact that the drawing was very Disney-like, it was very good.

Carter's character is one of those who fall in love.

And if they plan to make a dedicated one each season. For God's sake, do it right, or don't.

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21 Aug 2021 19:15 #72125 by shadar
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I just saw the chapter of What if? from Captain Carter.

I liked a lot. Despite the fact that the drawing was very Disney-like, it was very good.

Carter's character is one of those who fall in love.

And if they plan to make a dedicated one each season. For God's sake, do it right, or don't.

Too bad they are only making one Carter-focused episode each season. After this, we need a new live-action Captain Carter show. If they can find a suitable actress. Attitude is everything. 

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22 Aug 2021 02:04 #72131 by kikass2014
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 If they can find a suitable actress. Attitude is everything.


No need.  Theres a perfectly capable actress to play the role already - Hayley Atwell a.k.a THE Peggy Carter :)

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27 Aug 2021 18:03 #72182 by ballen
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I just saw it, and I think you're hugely underselling it.

Captain Carter is brutal when she fights. She demolishes hordes of Nazis in gruesome ways, and she has fun doing it. Every blow hits with a meaty thud in a testament to her power. She even tortures a guy (but of course they can't show that kind of thing on Disney+). And not only does she fight Nazis, she also has to fight for the respect of her commander.

It was glorious, and I'm gonna have to run it back a few times.
 
I agree with the above that TwiceOnThursdays is underselling it.  As others on this thread have noted she kicks some ass.  Disney did not have her hold back and at no time is she in trouble or does the viewer wonder if she is even has super strenth like you do when watching "Supergirl."  In every fight scene she overwhelms Nazi's with her speed, strength and agility.  I might even say the depict her as stronger than post transformation Steve Rogers.  She stops trucks cold and single handedly forces a supernatural force back into a portal.  A few scenes below.

Transformation:


Highlights:
 
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01 Jun 2022 05:53 - 01 Jun 2022 05:56 #74465 by grungykitten
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Captain Carter makes another appearance (this time in live action, played by Hayley Atwell) in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. And she gets to kick some butt here as well, though definitely toned down from her Disney+ What If...? rendition.
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01 Jun 2022 09:32 - 01 Jun 2022 09:33 #74469 by marcoasalazarm2
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It was one of the highlights of the film, and it just made her becoming collateral damage to yet another "Wanda goes Nuts" plot, which made the latter more eyeroll-worthy.

Seriously, it's all Marvel seems to write regarding Wanda these days. It's her going on a rampage or everybody doing some really stupid things because of their paranoia she will go on a rampage. Even the Hulk gets more nuance, and that's taking into account that this little waltz has been his schtick from day one.
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01 Jun 2022 10:39 #74470 by Woodclaw
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It was one of the highlights of the film, and it just made her becoming collateral damage to yet another "Wanda goes Nuts" plot, which made the latter more eyeroll-worthy.

Seriously, it's all Marvel seems to write regarding Wanda these days. It's her going on a rampage or everybody doing some really stupid things because of their paranoia she will go on a rampage. Even the Hulk gets more nuance, and that's taking into account that this little waltz has been his schtick from day one.
You can thank Brian Michael Bendis and his Avengers Disassambled run, which also caused the death of Vision and Hawkeye, both characters that the author and the editors considered useless but  caused an uproar among the fans.

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