Suicide Squad

Markiehoe wrote: Well here is a twist.
Jared Leto is not happy with the final product and has not seen the film.
This is after going on a promotional tour asking us to see the movie.
Reminds me of Kate Mara and Fantastic Four last year.

uk.movies.yahoo.com/jared-leto-reportedl...-into-184403204.html

jdrock24 wrote: Man, the hate machine will do anything to tear the DCEU down and idiots just continue to believe any silly story that is put out there.

That particular report on Leto is from some fan site that not one member of the media heard or verified themselves (It says that right there in the "story" if you are curious). What happened to getting at least two sources before running with a story? Or how about, I don't know, asking Leto himself?!!!

These desperate grab for clicks is getting ridiculous...

Markiehoe wrote: What did I say that was not true?
Jared Leto is not happy with the film.
He has not seen the film.
He went on a promotional tour asking people to see a film he has not seen.
Kate Mara did and said similar things.

I am actually very happy Suicide Squad is doing well.
I may not like the movie but I am glad others do.
It means more Comic book super type story movies in the future.
Hopefully we will get more Ubergirl movies.

Just passed $500M worldwide.....

Man, the hate machine will do anything to tear the DCEU down and idiots just continue to believe any silly story that is put out there.

jdrock24 wrote:

Markiehoe wrote: Well here is a twist.
Jared Leto is not happy with the final product and has not seen the film.
This is after going on a promotional tour asking us to see the movie.
Reminds me of Kate Mara and Fantastic Four last year.

uk.movies.yahoo.com/jared-leto-reportedl...-into-184403204.html

This guy is right. I wonder how many members of the media are going to step up and say they made a mistake when running with this "story"?:

[Leto allegedly also revealed that Warner Bros made him sign a contract that stopped him from partaking in the likes of rock climbing and other dangerous activities to prevent injury.

Leto is believed to have responded to this part of his contract by yelling “f*** ‘em,” and then presumably taking part in them anyway./quote]

It could have been edited but that the exact impression that I got when I read it soon after it was first posted here. The second batman site even links to a bbc radio interview if you really want to hear what Leto thinks about it.

lfan wrote:

kikass2014 wrote: According to Box Office Mojo, as of 17th August, the film has pulled in $482,000,000 worldwide. But that’s just me being pedantic

It's August 18th and according to a WB press release, its at $509M.....but that's probably me being pedantic.....

Source: www.comicbookresources.com/article/today...the-500-million-mark

kikass2014 wrote:

Just passed $500M worldwide.....

According to Box Office Mojo, as of 17th August, the film has pulled in $482,000,000 worldwide. But that’s just me being pedantic

It will hit $500,000,000 this weekend (I assume).

Anywho. This, while on the surface looks impressive, one should consider the following. Out of the box office gross, a studio gets, being generous, 50%. So, what does that mean for Suicide Squad?

Box Office Mojo has its production budget as $175 million. Factoring in a marketing budget of, best guess for these big blockbusters, $100 million, puts the total cost of Suicide Squad at $275,000,000.

Even hitting the $500,000,000 mark, the film will barely break even, let alone make the profit margin big execs expect.

Now, why would I bother posting something like that? Or any criticism? What is the point?

/K

It's August 18th and according to a WB press release, its at $509M.....but that's probably me being pedantic.....

Source: www.comicbookresources.com/article/today...the-500-million-mark

Far be it from me to read a studio press release as gospel (pun intended)...

No one except the top executives at the studio know exactly how profitable a film really is or what the break even point is.

So the next time someone makes the grand statement that "So and so film has to make this much to be profitable" know that they are probably talking out of their @$$ and don't know anything.

jdrock24 wrote:
For example, every studio has various subsidiary companies that a film (which is it's own subsidiary company of the studio) hires to provide services for. Like Disney's catering company that provides food to the cast and crew during filming. The film pays the catering company for the meals, thus showing a cost to the film but revenue to the catering company. In reality though, that cost never left Disney since they own both of the subsidiary companies, making it a wash in the overall balance sheet of the studio.
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castor wrote:

jdrock24 wrote:
For example, every studio has various subsidiary companies that a film (which is it's own subsidiary company of the studio) hires to provide services for. Like Disney's catering company that provides food to the cast and crew during filming. The film pays the catering company for the meals, thus showing a cost to the film but revenue to the catering company. In reality though, that cost never left Disney since they own both of the subsidiary companies, making it a wash in the overall balance sheet of the studio.
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I may have told this story before, but it is intresting:

Once had a neat conversation with a former VP at Disney in charge of production. He was doing the Disney Channel Original programing and movies. They have a big Studio in Burbank in LA. He was filming his movies there, and doing a decent job of it-it can be easier to do certainly. However it was determined by the higher ups that he whould have to charge them the cost of renting the studio they use for other productions-in effect it wasn't the disney studio just the studio Disney happened to own.

It was now to expensive to filmthere so they had to move out...Even though Burbanks studio was often after that empty(and from what i gather it has improved but still kinda empty), and they where paying for expensive space elsewhere. This is one of the reasons he became a former executive..

I don't think this is totally applicable to Squad, but thought i would mention it.

lfan wrote: It is common in several industries that I've worked and consulted in as well --- from car manufacturers to resort and hospitality. "Wooden nickels" are the GAO's best friend at certain organizations. ::

With respect to this, as well as the speculation of box office numbers, it reminds me of the joke where the CEO asks his head bean counter/actuary 'what do the numbers show?' and the statistician looks back at him, shuts the door, closes the blinds and responds "what do you want the numbers to show?"

kikass2014 wrote: While this is true to a certain extent, I think its fair to say that most avid film buffs can make educated guess at what that point is, based on factors known.

Good to know. Didn't know I was talking out of my @$$ and didn't know anything. Thank you.

lfan wrote: It is common in several industries that I've worked and consulted in as well --- from car manufacturers to resort and hospitality. "Wooden nickels" are the GAO's best friend at certain organizations. ::

With respect to this, as well as the speculation of box office numbers, it reminds me of the joke where the CEO asks his head bean counter/actuary 'what do the numbers show?' and the statistician looks back at him, shuts the door, closes the blinds and responds "what do you want the numbers to show?"

That's the whole point of my post! It is still just a "guess".

And since when does a "film buff" know all about the various accounting tricks studios use to get movies made?

Their "guesses" are no more valid than any random person on the street.

If you are making the claim that your guess is somehow superior to everyone else because you are a "film buff", then I don't know what to tell you.