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06 Oct 2013 00:33 - 06 Oct 2013 00:41 #33342 by Sarge395
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Very much looking forward to this. She possesses so many powers. And we all know how it ends.

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06 Oct 2013 12:40 #33345 by j2001
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Thank you for posting this, I didn't know anything about Carrie! The trailer prompted me to look it up, now I'm really interested in this new remake! :laugh:

Do you guys think the book is still worth it today? Does it get very "graphic"?

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06 Oct 2013 13:24 #33347 by Sarge395
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Unrelated bonus. Tell me these girls aren't super. (yeah, the muscled males sure do contribute)
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06 Oct 2013 14:25 #33348 by arvin sloane
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I´m really looking for this one. The original one had a great prom scene massacre, but in the book it is much more graphic, and the real destruction comes AFTER the prom, were she just walks home kinda destroying the city around like the dark phoenix or something. and they choose the perfect actress IMHO

"If you threaten our son again, I'll put my heel through your skull"

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06 Oct 2013 22:56 #33355 by roden81
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Loved the original version, but wasn't there already a remake, I know there was a sequel to the original, but I'm sure I've seen one where the teacher was played by Lois from Smallville.

Seriously can't help but feel sorry for Carrie though

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08 Oct 2013 05:50 #33379 by Camille Jones
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On a totally related note...

You'd think that superspeed would make me more punctual, huh?
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08 Oct 2013 14:46 - 08 Oct 2013 14:47 #33381 by j2001
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Solaris wrote: On a totally related note...


Holy.

Shit.

This is like the best thing in the history of ever.

Wow. Just wow. I wish I was one of those oblivious customers. It'd be like living a fantasy, I wouldn't be able to care about how actually dangerous the situation is.
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08 Oct 2013 19:39 #33387 by shadar
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Nice bit of viral promotion for the upcoming movie. Millions of hits, so its working.

Pretty cool that they did that with real, unsuspecting customers, or so I read. Those reactions looked pretty genuine.

The replay from different camera angles was confusing at first, but I quickly realized that was done so we could see the reactions of all the customers. The only hokey thing was the very visible cable behind the male actor, but I don't suppose most people saw that given he stayed close to the wall.

Now we need a scene like this done with Supergirl. Definitely harder to pull off, but not impossible as long as they stuck with superstrength. It would be way too hard to fake levitation and heat vision in the middle of a room in real time! But even a skit with just superstrength would really make my day. Maybe something where her street clothing gets torn to reveal the costume beneath.



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08 Oct 2013 20:43 #33388 by castor
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shadar wrote: Nice bit of viral promotion for the upcoming movie. Millions of hits, so its working.



Now we need a scene like this done with Supergirl. Definitely harder to pull off, but not impossible as long as they stuck with superstrength. It would be way too hard to fake levitation and heat vision in the middle of a room in real time! But even a skit with just superstrength would really make my day. Maybe something where her street clothing gets torn to reveal the costume beneath.


Oh thats both easy enough to do.

Flying Wires can be easy to hide with good lighting. Same in the video white in sunlight tends to disapear.

heat vision-a laser pointer in steam-well looks a lot like laser vision. Its tricky as it would involve shooting a laser at someones eye but not impossible. you could combine it with something melting on a hotplate pretty easy.

Flying would be easier to do at a distance, heat vision up close but i think superpowers in general work best with a little bit of distance.

of course people may not react at all.

this remind me. in the 70s in toronto a group tried putting together a fake flying saucer, that by all acounts looked pretty good. They flew it over the city one night. The police, the miltary the press-no one ever reported seeing it to anyone, and by most accounts no one noticed it . Its one of those stories that used to suggest that UFOs are the tip of the iceberg

But you know look up in the sky...well people generally don't.

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08 Oct 2013 21:41 #33389 by AJF
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Does anybody here know the name of the actress who played the telekinetic woman on the shop?

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09 Oct 2013 03:51 #33396 by CDR
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heat vision-a laser pointer in steam-well looks a lot like laser vision. Its tricky as it would involve shooting a laser at someones eye but not impossible. you could combine it with something melting on a hotplate pretty easy.

Castor! Dont you EVER try that!!!
There's a really high chance of hurting the supergirl wannabe.
Lasers are not toys and even the tiniest ones are dangerous when pointed at the eye.
Trust me. Im an electronics engineer and I've worked with lasers.
Let guys like me do the magic on post-edition or leave it to the pros.
Thanks. Gotta go back to my dimension now. A new release is being prepared there. ;)
Later!

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09 Oct 2013 03:59 #33397 by castor
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CDR wrote:

heat vision-a laser pointer in steam-well looks a lot like laser vision. Its tricky as it would involve shooting a laser at someones eye but not impossible. you could combine it with something melting on a hotplate pretty easy.

Castor! Dont you EVER try that!!!
There's a really high chance of hurting the supergirl wannabe.
Lasers are not toys and even the tiniest ones are dangerous when pointed at the eye.
Trust me. Im an electronics engineer and I've worked with lasers.
Let guys like me do the magic on post-edition or leave it to the pros.
Thanks. Gotta go back to my dimension now. A new release is being prepared there. ;)
Later!

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I left out the stage where you would put blinding contact lenses in the eyes.

Which whould make being a superheroine very tricky.

which yes i probabbly should have mentioned.

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09 Oct 2013 09:49 #33405 by jnw550
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Solaris wrote: On a totally related note...


Seems to me the video is great example of how most people would react to seeing something like that. It's one thing to be set-up for a stunt, or magic trick, but for someone to suddenly exhibit powers in public...

Maybe Marvel wasn't so far off with the X-Men.
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09 Oct 2013 23:45 #33417 by steelknight3000
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jnw550 wrote:

Solaris wrote: On a totally related note...


Seems to me the video is great example of how most people would react to seeing something like that. It's one thing to be set-up for a stunt, or magic trick, but for someone to suddenly exhibit powers in public...

Maybe Marvel wasn't so far off with the X-Men.


I'm guessing this incident's made a bunch of people pro-Mutant registration.

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10 Oct 2013 01:40 #33418 by shadar
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Based on the faces of the unwitting participants in the Carrie skit. I also thought that Marvel's X-Men series is underplayed. If anything, the revulsion and hatred and fear that mutants would create in the hearts of most ordinary humans would be extreme. I think Marvel should have amp'd it the next step.

And those people in the coffee shop weren't dealing with people who explode into flames or blast lasers from their eyes or fly. Imagine them watching a Mystique-grade shapechanger at work.

That said, I think its very likely many mutants would agree to work for the government so as to gain access to the horsepower of the Witness Protection program. That way they could be extremely well-hidden and have a comfortable life, and do an occasional mission for some Black Ops group or whatever.

Others would clearly go "darkside" and revel in their own hatred of the "dirt ordinary people", and become great criminals, preying on the Frails.

But based on current reality, I'm not sure very many would be in the middle, working as free agents and trying to stay undercover on their own, but those could be some of the really interesting stories.

Like a pretty teenage girl who can suddenly benchpress 70 tons and shrug off rifle bullets, but she just wants the continue the social life of a popular high school girl (cheerleader), and hang out with her brothers and sisters and her long-time boyfriend. Assuming that she has trouble controlling her strength, it would be fun to watch how she tries to stay undiscovered, her powers hidden even from her family. Especially when she really tries to stop some bad guy, but without having any training in her powers at all.

It might be even more fun to tell the story of a shy, misfit in high school, a loner punkhead who suddenly gains those powers.

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20 Oct 2013 18:49 #33655 by Camille Jones
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Alright, so I just saw the movie. If anyone wants spoilers of how it went, let me know.

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20 Oct 2013 20:50 #33658 by shadar
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Please... use the Spoiler button and post away... I like to know what I'm getting into before I go.

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21 Oct 2013 19:49 #33691 by Camille Jones
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Warning: Spoiler!

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25 Oct 2013 19:38 #33805 by j2001
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Ok, so I've read the book and watched the movie.

The book was awesome. Short and neat, perfectly crafted. Many epic moments. It actually bothers me that King himself doesn't dig it. Well, I'm just glad he wrote it.
But I have to say it's way, way, waaaaaaaaay less graphic than I first expected. It can't be really classified as a horror book, it's more of a psychological thriller. There is no gore at all, and the way Carrie wreaks havoc it's quite tame.

The 2013 movie is great as well if you don't mind all the scenes from the book that have been left out or made much less important. When you watch a movie whose script comes from a book, you already know it's gonna be like that.
Chloë Grace Moretz is one gorgeous babe but that doesn't stop her to play her role well. Although her lips are so plump and luscious I couldn't take my eyes off them whenever she was on screen. Damn, those are some perfect lips. But I digress :lol:
The movie is more violent than the book but not by that much. As Camille said, Carrie targets a precise group of victims and doesn't stumble upon them as she does in the book with Chris and her boyfriend. She uses her power in a lot of creative ways King didn't think about, and for the sake of spectacularity she keeps channelling it through her hands whereas King's Carrie didn't have to.

In the end I wish only this movie was at least 20 minutes longer to cover more destruction and more character development.
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27 Oct 2013 11:42 - 27 Oct 2013 11:44 #33818 by j2001
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I apologize if I'm going off topic but the topic isn't getting much action anyway and I wanted to share my two cents about the other Carrie movies :P

Beware, it's full spoiler ahead!

For those who don't know, other than the 1976 movie with Sissy Spacek and the 2013 movie with Chloe Moretz, there is a 1999 sequel to the first movie called Carrie 2: The Rage and yet another remake of the original story made in 2002 (simply called Carrie).

I'll start with the 2002 remake. It's a made-for-television movie shot in a 4:3 full frame ratio and unlike what one might think it's well worth the watch for several reasons.

First of all it's more than 2 hours long which gave the writers enough screen time to restore many scenes from the book that didn't make it in any of the other movies. Most notably, we can finally witness the flashback in which a very young Carrie talks with the scantily clad girl next door followed by the stone shower on her mom's house. The whole story is told as a flashback while the police question the survivors of the event which is essentially what happens in King's novel. The original fight between principal Gayle and Chris's father is now very faithful to the book version as are many other things (eg, Carrie accepts Tommy's invitation in one sitting; Carrie uses female hygiene products to dry her lips; Chris and Bill stay at the roadhouse after the blood dump; Carrie kills her mother by stopping her heart; etc.).

Another reason to watch Carrie 2002 is that despite it being more faithful to the book in many ways, it is also incredibly unfaithful in many others which I think adds to the fun and creates interesting variety. The main difference is that Carrie doesn't remember what happened after the blood dump, she just blacked out and ran on autopilot. Her mother tried to drown her in the bathtub but Sue saved her with CPR. Sue hides Carrie and makes everyone think she's dead. The audience can sympathize with Carrie because she wasn't conscious during the murders. Sue drives Carrie over the state borders in a Thelma and Louise fashion and that's where the movie ends. I read it was meant to be the beginning of a TV series which was never produced.

A third reason to watch it is that the casting is good.

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Angela Bettis plays Carrie White and she totally has the face of the girl that could be bullied to death. She perfectly plays the role of the pathologically meek student, her Carrie might even be more so than the book's original which, allow me to say, it's quite the feat.

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Rena Sofer fits the role of miss Desjardin (wrongly pronounced in a French accent throughout the movie) just swell. She's radiant, beautiful as the book says she is. A bit too aggressive maybe, but that fits too I think.

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Finally, Emilie De Ravin is just the perfect Chris Hargensen, more so than all the others. She's incredibly pretty, you can almost hear hordes of boys drooling over her when she's on screen. She's the archetype of the popular cheerleader. And as cute as she may look in a stock photo, she can also be quite the bitch.

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Now, on to Carrie 2: The Rage.

Creating a movie sequel of a book that has none is usually considered blasphemy. As true that might be, I think the more the merrier. I'm always intrigued by new ideas even if commercially driven. If you don't want to watch a sequel just don't do it, isn't it that simple?

Carrie 2 takes off from the idea that Carrie's father, the carrier of the TK gene, had a daughter out of wedlock. Thus she has all of Carrie's abilities.
What's cool about this movie is that it follows Carrie's original storyline reinventing many parts of it. It's essentially an alternate universe Carrie, like a comic reboot.
Rachel, Carrie's step-sister, was raised by a foster family and she became something of a punk. She's not a popular girl but she's not Carrie either. She can take care of herself, she can tell people to fuck off, and girls don't make fun of her. When a jock genuinely falls in love with her the chain of events that leads to the originaly storyline begins.
Another cool thing is that Amy Irving reprises her role as Sue Snell, a survivor of the original movie mass murder. She's 20 years older and now a school counselor, she detects Rachel and she tries to save from her own powers. She fails. Rachel will eventually kill her, brutally although by accident. The very presence of Irving creates a believable link between the two movies.

What I think killed this movie is that it is shot like a television movie. The direction is very dull, not worthy of a theater release. Other than that, I think it's worth it. It adds an interesting twist to the Carrie novella.

As for me, I can say that although I've watched four Carrie movies in two days, I'd definitely watch some more. This is an awesome tale, and I can't get enough of it. The very idea of a young girl wreaking havoc on the city that wronged her is just beautiful poetic justice.
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27 Oct 2013 13:33 #33819 by castor
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j2001 wrote:
As for me, I can say that although I've watched four Carrie movies in two days, I'd definitely watch some more. This is an awesome tale, and I can't get enough of it. The very idea of a young girl wreaking havoc on the city that wronged her is just beautiful poetic justice.


Well i am not sure i should do this-but can i recomend Friday the 13th part 7.

Which is pretty much Carrie Vs Machete and Hockey Mask Aficenado Jason.

Like all Friday the 13th movie "good?" ehhh. However as in the later movies they tryed to play with the formula nad introduce more humor, i think this is the best one of those.

The Carrie elements however work pretty well. The problem i can have with carrie films is that she walks the line between a superhero and a monster which can be tricky to do well. This movie by giving her a powerful adversary does a good job of kind of making her a horror themed superhero which in the last act is better then you might think.

I would comment that La Park Lincoln as the carrie character was pretty good.She plays it pretty close to a monster for the entire movie, but shes never quite evil. This is kind of a neat varaition on action heroine trope that works better then it should-which is what i think of the movie.

i was also going to recomend Firestarter(1983). This is basically Stephen Kings remake of Carrie when he was more in his "i can write novels" mode. Except instead of a teenager carrie is 10 years old. Its the story of a powerful pyrokentic by the goverment. Its a book in two basic parts. The first part(her being captured) and the second(what they do with her). I think the second half is very good, intresting story about manipulation. First half not so much.

As a movie-i haven't watched since i was a kid. i also didn't see a Made for Sci Fi Channel followup that i have heard is okay.
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27 Oct 2013 21:37 #33826 by Dru1076
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Though I think Charlie (Charlene) was too young in the first movie to be of interest, there was a rather crap remake that has a few really good scenes in it. Firestarter 2 had Dennis Hopper (Not his best career move) and Malcolm Mcdowell . While I can't remeber the actress's name, she was very pretty as I recall. One scene early on where she practically rapes a guy in a carpark developes into one of the hottest scenes this genre fan has ever seen.

To be clear, it is a pretty crap movie overall...but worth seeing for two or three scenes.

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27 Oct 2013 22:35 #33827 by j2001
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Thank you castor for suggesting Friday 13th VII, I've just watched it :)
Although I'm not fond of movies whose plot can be summed up as "random guy killing random people for no reason", Tina saved the movie. I wouldn't say she's a monster, on the contrary she seemed to be the victim from start to finish to me. Anyway, I've enjoyed the final fight. It's always nice to see a reversal of the white knight and damsel in distress cliché. Here Tina does all the fighting (in quite the fashionable way I'd say) while Nick plays the role of the helpless "plus one".

I'll let you guys know about Firestarter. As always, I'll read the book before watching anything :)
Thanks for the advice!

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28 Oct 2013 21:56 #33846 by Sarge395
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Any links to the best parts of any of these movies? Or links to the full movie and the time stamps of the points to view.

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28 Oct 2013 22:48 #33849 by j2001
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Sarge395 wrote: Any links to the best parts of any of these movies? Or links to the full movie and the time stamps of the points to view.


From a superwoman standpoint, the only interesting part in all of the old Carrie movies is the prom scene and the destruction that follows. And Carrie 2013 is actually the only one that features proper superhero moments (cfr. Camille's post).

Carrie 2002 prom scene



Carrie 2: The Rage prom scene substitute ( complete movie )

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