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Carrie remake.
Very much looking forward to this. She possesses so many powers. And we all know how it ends.
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Do you guys think the book is still worth it today? Does it get very "graphic"?
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Unrelated bonus. Tell me these girls aren't super. (yeah, the muscled males sure do contribute)
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"If you threaten our son again, I'll put my heel through your skull"
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Seriously can't help but feel sorry for Carrie though
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Solaris wrote: On a totally related note...
Holy.
Shit.
This is like the best thing in the history of ever.
Wow. Just wow. I wish I was one of those oblivious customers. It'd be like living a fantasy, I wouldn't be able to care about how actually dangerous the situation is.
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Pretty cool that they did that with real, unsuspecting customers, or so I read. Those reactions looked pretty genuine.
The replay from different camera angles was confusing at first, but I quickly realized that was done so we could see the reactions of all the customers. The only hokey thing was the very visible cable behind the male actor, but I don't suppose most people saw that given he stayed close to the wall.
Now we need a scene like this done with Supergirl. Definitely harder to pull off, but not impossible as long as they stuck with superstrength. It would be way too hard to fake levitation and heat vision in the middle of a room in real time! But even a skit with just superstrength would really make my day. Maybe something where her street clothing gets torn to reveal the costume beneath.
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shadar wrote: Nice bit of viral promotion for the upcoming movie. Millions of hits, so its working.
Now we need a scene like this done with Supergirl. Definitely harder to pull off, but not impossible as long as they stuck with superstrength. It would be way too hard to fake levitation and heat vision in the middle of a room in real time! But even a skit with just superstrength would really make my day. Maybe something where her street clothing gets torn to reveal the costume beneath.
Oh thats both easy enough to do.
Flying Wires can be easy to hide with good lighting. Same in the video white in sunlight tends to disapear.
heat vision-a laser pointer in steam-well looks a lot like laser vision. Its tricky as it would involve shooting a laser at someones eye but not impossible. you could combine it with something melting on a hotplate pretty easy.
Flying would be easier to do at a distance, heat vision up close but i think superpowers in general work best with a little bit of distance.
of course people may not react at all.
this remind me. in the 70s in toronto a group tried putting together a fake flying saucer, that by all acounts looked pretty good. They flew it over the city one night. The police, the miltary the press-no one ever reported seeing it to anyone, and by most accounts no one noticed it . Its one of those stories that used to suggest that UFOs are the tip of the iceberg
But you know look up in the sky...well people generally don't.
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Castor! Dont you EVER try that!!!heat vision-a laser pointer in steam-well looks a lot like laser vision. Its tricky as it would involve shooting a laser at someones eye but not impossible. you could combine it with something melting on a hotplate pretty easy.
There's a really high chance of hurting the supergirl wannabe.
Lasers are not toys and even the tiniest ones are dangerous when pointed at the eye.
Trust me. Im an electronics engineer and I've worked with lasers.
Let guys like me do the magic on post-edition or leave it to the pros.
Thanks. Gotta go back to my dimension now. A new release is being prepared there.
Later!
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CDR wrote:
Castor! Dont you EVER try that!!!heat vision-a laser pointer in steam-well looks a lot like laser vision. Its tricky as it would involve shooting a laser at someones eye but not impossible. you could combine it with something melting on a hotplate pretty easy.
There's a really high chance of hurting the supergirl wannabe.
Lasers are not toys and even the tiniest ones are dangerous when pointed at the eye.
Trust me. Im an electronics engineer and I've worked with lasers.
Let guys like me do the magic on post-edition or leave it to the pros.
Thanks. Gotta go back to my dimension now. A new release is being prepared there.
Later!
CDR
I left out the stage where you would put blinding contact lenses in the eyes.
Which whould make being a superheroine very tricky.
which yes i probabbly should have mentioned.
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Solaris wrote: On a totally related note...
Seems to me the video is great example of how most people would react to seeing something like that. It's one thing to be set-up for a stunt, or magic trick, but for someone to suddenly exhibit powers in public...
Maybe Marvel wasn't so far off with the X-Men.
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Solaris wrote: On a totally related note...
Seems to me the video is great example of how most people would react to seeing something like that. It's one thing to be set-up for a stunt, or magic trick, but for someone to suddenly exhibit powers in public...
Maybe Marvel wasn't so far off with the X-Men.
I'm guessing this incident's made a bunch of people pro-Mutant registration.
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And those people in the coffee shop weren't dealing with people who explode into flames or blast lasers from their eyes or fly. Imagine them watching a Mystique-grade shapechanger at work.
That said, I think its very likely many mutants would agree to work for the government so as to gain access to the horsepower of the Witness Protection program. That way they could be extremely well-hidden and have a comfortable life, and do an occasional mission for some Black Ops group or whatever.
Others would clearly go "darkside" and revel in their own hatred of the "dirt ordinary people", and become great criminals, preying on the Frails.
But based on current reality, I'm not sure very many would be in the middle, working as free agents and trying to stay undercover on their own, but those could be some of the really interesting stories.
Like a pretty teenage girl who can suddenly benchpress 70 tons and shrug off rifle bullets, but she just wants the continue the social life of a popular high school girl (cheerleader), and hang out with her brothers and sisters and her long-time boyfriend. Assuming that she has trouble controlling her strength, it would be fun to watch how she tries to stay undiscovered, her powers hidden even from her family. Especially when she really tries to stop some bad guy, but without having any training in her powers at all.
It might be even more fun to tell the story of a shy, misfit in high school, a loner punkhead who suddenly gains those powers.
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Solaris wrote: Alright, so I just saw the movie. If anyone wants spoilers of how it went, let me know.
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Well, about 20 minutes in, there is some good display of telekinetic abilities. Here are some of the most notable ones though:
When she finally gets to practice it, she hovers a few books and her bed a good foot off the ground.
When she's making her dress, she's using her telekinesis casually to pump the pedal to the sewing machine.
Her using her telekinesis to bind her mother's mouth and limbs before shoving her into the prayer closet. She even uses her telekinesis to melt the bolt on lock shut.
Of course, the main display is when she snaps and goes on a rampage. Unlike the previous version, she targets only her tormentors and those that conspired against her/felt that they conspire against her:
She slams one of the girls into the door at a deadly pace with a telekinetic blast.
When one of the male bullies tries to escape by pulling the bleachers out, she traps them at the last step before snapping them in half.
The twin girls were forced to remain face first on the ground, allowing the panicked stampede to stomp on them to death.
Carrie then whips one of her bullies with exposed electrical wires before she steps into a flame-lit table, causing her to burn to death
The female gym teacher that was nice to her and played much more of a motherly-role was lifted up and out of harm's way before lets the electrical cables go, shocking anyone else to death (the floor was wet after Carrie activated the sprinklers)
Carrie then uses her powers to hover out of the gymnasium and onto the streets, where she caught up with her main perpetrator and her boyfriend.
A cool thing that Carrie did was stomp her bare foot onto the asphalt, cracking the street really deep before reaching the car at about 5 blocks down. The crack then formed into a massive hole right in front of them.
The boyfriend of the main villain tried to run her down at about 90-100mph but was stopped by Carrie's invisible wall. He dies upon impact.
The main villain then tried to stupidly do the same thing, only to have Carrie hoist the car up some 5-10 feet into the air. She then flicks the car to the side, letting her run into the gas station. The main villain was not wearing a seatbelt at the time, causing her face to be embedded into the windshield before she died moments later. For added measure, Carrie brings down a lamppost onto the exposed gas line, blowing her up.
When she gets home, her mother lures her into safety before stabbing her in the back. Despite this and getting cut up by her calf and arm, Carrie was able to pin every single needle and knife onto her mother before crucifying her onto the cupboard.
When the nice popular girl was trying to help Carrie, Carrie sensed that she was pregnant with a girl. She then spares her life and pushes her out of the house and making sure she lands safely onto the street. The main popular girl then watches as Carrie brings the entire house down onto herself, killing herself.
The ending shows the main popular girl leaving a white rose on Carrie and her mother's grave, though her grave was desecrated. Yet, they show cracks forming along her grave, hinting that she's not quite dead or someone else has telekinetic abilities.
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The book was awesome. Short and neat, perfectly crafted. Many epic moments. It actually bothers me that King himself doesn't dig it. Well, I'm just glad he wrote it.
But I have to say it's way, way, waaaaaaaaay less graphic than I first expected. It can't be really classified as a horror book, it's more of a psychological thriller. There is no gore at all, and the way Carrie wreaks havoc it's quite tame.
The 2013 movie is great as well if you don't mind all the scenes from the book that have been left out or made much less important. When you watch a movie whose script comes from a book, you already know it's gonna be like that.
Chloë Grace Moretz is one gorgeous babe but that doesn't stop her to play her role well. Although her lips are so plump and luscious I couldn't take my eyes off them whenever she was on screen. Damn, those are some perfect lips. But I digress
The movie is more violent than the book but not by that much. As Camille said, Carrie targets a precise group of victims and doesn't stumble upon them as she does in the book with Chris and her boyfriend. She uses her power in a lot of creative ways King didn't think about, and for the sake of spectacularity she keeps channelling it through her hands whereas King's Carrie didn't have to.
In the end I wish only this movie was at least 20 minutes longer to cover more destruction and more character development.
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Beware, it's full spoiler ahead!
For those who don't know, other than the 1976 movie with Sissy Spacek and the 2013 movie with Chloe Moretz, there is a 1999 sequel to the first movie called Carrie 2: The Rage and yet another remake of the original story made in 2002 (simply called Carrie).
I'll start with the 2002 remake. It's a made-for-television movie shot in a 4:3 full frame ratio and unlike what one might think it's well worth the watch for several reasons.
First of all it's more than 2 hours long which gave the writers enough screen time to restore many scenes from the book that didn't make it in any of the other movies. Most notably, we can finally witness the flashback in which a very young Carrie talks with the scantily clad girl next door followed by the stone shower on her mom's house. The whole story is told as a flashback while the police question the survivors of the event which is essentially what happens in King's novel. The original fight between principal Gayle and Chris's father is now very faithful to the book version as are many other things (eg, Carrie accepts Tommy's invitation in one sitting; Carrie uses female hygiene products to dry her lips; Chris and Bill stay at the roadhouse after the blood dump; Carrie kills her mother by stopping her heart; etc.).
Another reason to watch Carrie 2002 is that despite it being more faithful to the book in many ways, it is also incredibly unfaithful in many others which I think adds to the fun and creates interesting variety. The main difference is that Carrie doesn't remember what happened after the blood dump, she just blacked out and ran on autopilot. Her mother tried to drown her in the bathtub but Sue saved her with CPR. Sue hides Carrie and makes everyone think she's dead. The audience can sympathize with Carrie because she wasn't conscious during the murders. Sue drives Carrie over the state borders in a Thelma and Louise fashion and that's where the movie ends. I read it was meant to be the beginning of a TV series which was never produced.
A third reason to watch it is that the casting is good.
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Angela Bettis plays Carrie White and she totally has the face of the girl that could be bullied to death. She perfectly plays the role of the pathologically meek student, her Carrie might even be more so than the book's original which, allow me to say, it's quite the feat.
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Rena Sofer fits the role of miss Desjardin (wrongly pronounced in a French accent throughout the movie) just swell. She's radiant, beautiful as the book says she is. A bit too aggressive maybe, but that fits too I think.
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Finally, Emilie De Ravin is just the perfect Chris Hargensen, more so than all the others. She's incredibly pretty, you can almost hear hordes of boys drooling over her when she's on screen. She's the archetype of the popular cheerleader. And as cute as she may look in a stock photo, she can also be quite the bitch.
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Now, on to Carrie 2: The Rage.
Creating a movie sequel of a book that has none is usually considered blasphemy. As true that might be, I think the more the merrier. I'm always intrigued by new ideas even if commercially driven. If you don't want to watch a sequel just don't do it, isn't it that simple?
Carrie 2 takes off from the idea that Carrie's father, the carrier of the TK gene, had a daughter out of wedlock. Thus she has all of Carrie's abilities.
What's cool about this movie is that it follows Carrie's original storyline reinventing many parts of it. It's essentially an alternate universe Carrie, like a comic reboot.
Rachel, Carrie's step-sister, was raised by a foster family and she became something of a punk. She's not a popular girl but she's not Carrie either. She can take care of herself, she can tell people to fuck off, and girls don't make fun of her. When a jock genuinely falls in love with her the chain of events that leads to the originaly storyline begins.
Another cool thing is that Amy Irving reprises her role as Sue Snell, a survivor of the original movie mass murder. She's 20 years older and now a school counselor, she detects Rachel and she tries to save from her own powers. She fails. Rachel will eventually kill her, brutally although by accident. The very presence of Irving creates a believable link between the two movies.
What I think killed this movie is that it is shot like a television movie. The direction is very dull, not worthy of a theater release. Other than that, I think it's worth it. It adds an interesting twist to the Carrie novella.
As for me, I can say that although I've watched four Carrie movies in two days, I'd definitely watch some more. This is an awesome tale, and I can't get enough of it. The very idea of a young girl wreaking havoc on the city that wronged her is just beautiful poetic justice.
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j2001 wrote:
As for me, I can say that although I've watched four Carrie movies in two days, I'd definitely watch some more. This is an awesome tale, and I can't get enough of it. The very idea of a young girl wreaking havoc on the city that wronged her is just beautiful poetic justice.
Well i am not sure i should do this-but can i recomend Friday the 13th part 7.
Which is pretty much Carrie Vs Machete and Hockey Mask Aficenado Jason.
Like all Friday the 13th movie "good?" ehhh. However as in the later movies they tryed to play with the formula nad introduce more humor, i think this is the best one of those.
The Carrie elements however work pretty well. The problem i can have with carrie films is that she walks the line between a superhero and a monster which can be tricky to do well. This movie by giving her a powerful adversary does a good job of kind of making her a horror themed superhero which in the last act is better then you might think.
I would comment that La Park Lincoln as the carrie character was pretty good.She plays it pretty close to a monster for the entire movie, but shes never quite evil. This is kind of a neat varaition on action heroine trope that works better then it should-which is what i think of the movie.
i was also going to recomend Firestarter(1983). This is basically Stephen Kings remake of Carrie when he was more in his "i can write novels" mode. Except instead of a teenager carrie is 10 years old. Its the story of a powerful pyrokentic by the goverment. Its a book in two basic parts. The first part(her being captured) and the second(what they do with her). I think the second half is very good, intresting story about manipulation. First half not so much.
As a movie-i haven't watched since i was a kid. i also didn't see a Made for Sci Fi Channel followup that i have heard is okay.
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To be clear, it is a pretty crap movie overall...but worth seeing for two or three scenes.
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Although I'm not fond of movies whose plot can be summed up as "random guy killing random people for no reason", Tina saved the movie. I wouldn't say she's a monster, on the contrary she seemed to be the victim from start to finish to me. Anyway, I've enjoyed the final fight. It's always nice to see a reversal of the white knight and damsel in distress cliché. Here Tina does all the fighting (in quite the fashionable way I'd say) while Nick plays the role of the helpless "plus one".
I'll let you guys know about Firestarter. As always, I'll read the book before watching anything
Thanks for the advice!
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Sarge395 wrote: Any links to the best parts of any of these movies? Or links to the full movie and the time stamps of the points to view.
From a superwoman standpoint, the only interesting part in all of the old Carrie movies is the prom scene and the destruction that follows. And Carrie 2013 is actually the only one that features proper superhero moments (cfr. Camille's post).
Carrie 2002 prom scene
Carrie 2: The Rage prom scene substitute ( complete movie )
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