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Writing Aids

11 Apr 2020 01:53 #67574 by anonxyzus
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Do any of the authors here use Grammerly, ProwritingAid, or any other writing aids to look for spelling, grammer, etc. in your work? If so, I'd like to hear about it and what you think.

I use Micro$oft Office 365 Word and I just added ProwWritingAid. It picks up more errors than Word and so far I am happy with it. Which is a good thing, because it is pricey.

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11 Apr 2020 02:02 #67575 by Woody
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I dont use anything, i know it shows: i know my grammer are good ain't it!

My main reason though is my working computer isnt connected to the net.  I have heard good things about grammerly

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11 Apr 2020 02:29 #67576 by YAGS
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I sometimes use the default spelling/grammar check that comes with MS Word. But I also over-edit my own work, because I'm so critical that I read, edit, re-read, edit my own writing a dozen times before I share anything with anyone. Luckily, I type very fast, but this is part of the reason that I'm so slow at writing in general.

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11 Apr 2020 02:37 #67577 by shadar
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Ah... I use a spell checker.... 

My editor is Ulysses given it doesn't have any whistles, bells or anything else. Except said spell checker.

Simplicity lets me focus on the story and not the machinery. Using Word, for me, is like driving an 18 wheel  semi two blocks down the street to buy a quart of milk. 

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11 Apr 2020 03:38 #67579 by MisterK
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I really just use Word, and the spellcheck that goes with it. I'm also a teacher, so I have the skills to do my own proofreading. (I'm about to post with some really bad typos though.) When it's your own writing though, that does take a lot of discipline, I find I have to go through it with a fine tooth comb about a million times.

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11 Apr 2020 04:25 #67580 by erikphandel
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Why the hell was my first thought "why are people talking about HIV in this forum"?

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11 Apr 2020 05:08 #67581 by lfan
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I use google docs and the spellchecker embedded there.  Also use PowerThesaurus for looking up stuff. 

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11 Apr 2020 07:10 #67582 by mechjok
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Scrivner and Open Office.

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11 Apr 2020 12:16 #67583 by RevTekkX
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Does anyone use:

https://plotfactory.com/

or other items of its ilk?

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11 Apr 2020 14:59 #67586 by Woodclaw
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I write most of my stuff with OpenOffice, then I run it through GoogleDocs to smooth out most of the errors, before a final passage via Grammarly.

After that I give it to someone to read and, I put all their fixes through the same process.

(formerly Anon, still Librarian)

"What is the point of having free will if one cannot occasionally spit in the eye of destiny?" ("Gentleman" John Marcone)

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11 Apr 2020 17:10 #67588 by shadar
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Is it appropriate to think of Grammerly and its ilk as the literary equivalent to a singer's use of Autotune software?  

Autotune, in a simplistic sense, fixes the pitch of individual notes in the recording process so they are properly in tune. But it can also take some of the art away from a singer's craft and create a technically perfect but sometimes more sterile performance. My enjoyment of live music is that it's never the same from performance to performance. It's alive and organic. Sometimes technically poor, but with great emotion and fun. (But also sometimes terrible.)

Is there an analogy to heavy use of writing tools that file the rough edges off our prose, but may also muffle an author's distinctive voice? Or does the Autotune controversy have no analog in the writing world?

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11 Apr 2020 18:47 #67599 by Idylls
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I have trouble constructing concise sentences.. I installed Grammarly. I still have trouble constructing concise sentences. I uninstalled Grammarly.

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11 Apr 2020 18:56 #67600 by shadar
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Idylls wrote: I have trouble constructing concise sentences.. I installed Grammarly. I still have trouble constructing concise sentences. I uninstalled Grammarly.


That's sounds like me... I tried a few things before uninstalling them. My writer's voice is often a bit scratchy with the occasional cough or honking sneeze. But sometimes it's clear. Trying to Autotune my writer's voice to make it smooth and perfect might take away more than it adds.

Not to mention taking precious time that might be better spent dreaming up new ideas or characters. 

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11 Apr 2020 19:21 #67603 by Idylls
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Wasn't there an AI or algorithm that can make stories? 

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11 Apr 2020 19:59 #67604 by shadar
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Idylls wrote: Wasn't there an AI or algorithm that can make stories? 


I recall some AI that was taught the Hero's Journey style of storytelling, and cranked out some humorous prose that wasn't really any good. 

Of course, the Hero's Journey is still the dominant (some would say only) story form for action-like movies.

The Wonder Woman movie was a classic example which proves this very old style still works. Some say that the Hero's Journey storytelling is hardwired into our DNA given it started with the earliest recorded style of casual storytelling. 

As bad as life was back in ancient times, the one job that I would have loved would have been Traveling Storyteller. Going from town to town telling tales of heroes and villains and magical beings that lived just beyond the edges of their lands. 

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11 Apr 2020 21:35 #67606 by ace191
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I use MS WORD.  I am a terrible speller, so bad that at times Word cannot figure out what word I am trying to spell, so I use the built in thesaurus and use a word with a similar meaning that I can spell ( with or without MS word’s help) to find the correct spelling of the word I want.  

Much better at math and physics!

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12 Apr 2020 02:23 - 13 Apr 2020 02:44 #67613 by Idylls
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shadar wrote: I recall some AI that was taught the Hero's Journey style of storytelling, and cranked out some humorous prose that wasn't really any good. 

Of course, the Hero's Journey is still the dominant (some would say only) story form for action-like movies.

The Wonder Woman movie was a classic example which proves this very old style still works. Some say that the Hero's Journey storytelling is hardwired into our DNA given it started with the earliest recorded style of casual storytelling. 

As bad as life was back in ancient times, the one job that I would have loved would have been Traveling Storyteller. Going from town to town telling tales of heroes and villains and magical beings that lived just beyond the edges of their lands. 

Shadar.


Just like a Scribe.

To think I only learned about the Hero's Journey a couple of months ago. Really opened my eyes to what works and why. Most characters I make don't even aspire to become a hero but just doing the right thing. Simple nobodies no bard would write about.
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12 Apr 2020 08:09 #67617 by anonxyzus
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The tools I use find misspellings and grammar errors. They also look out for passive voice, too many adverbs and it has a thesaurus. I always have the choice to reject or change a suggested edit.

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12 Apr 2020 22:47 #67646 by algae2k
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There also is a site proofreader!

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13 Apr 2020 17:43 #67668 by CJS
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I organize/write in Scrivener, and run chapters through Prowritingaid. But as Shadar pointed out, I try to be careful not to sterilize my writing too much in the process. I use Prowritingaid’s grammar check, overused word check, and readability check. I might use other tools it offers in the future.

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