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Sthenolagnia vs Cratolagnia

01 Mar 2017 16:31 #52895 by shadar
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When I started writing genre stories back in the late 80's, I quickly became aware of the many forms of sexual interest people have for fictional characters, even within the broader genre that we enjoy.

The first thing I learned was not to judge. It was all good, although the various flavors of Peril never sat well with me. But I always understood the difference between fantasy and reality. Most of us maintain a bright line between the two.

Then, when Facebook came out with its 51 gender/sexual orientations, I thought, "What? So few?" When you compare that to sexual interests, even within one category of gender, we probably have hundreds in this genre alone. And we're predominately a CIS male audience based on what I see. Now we've added Sthenolagnia and Cratolagnia, which I'd never heard of before, but made sense once I understood them.

The one thing that seems apparent is that sexual interests are incredibly varied and individualistic, and any definitions or categorizations are woefully inadequate to reflect the diversity of thought. This validates the assumption I've always held that people are all truly individuals deep inside, even if we tend to fall into larger and more conventional buckets when viewed from outside.

If we could define our sexual interests to the absolute fullest in the tiniest detail, it would take an abbreviation to represent it that was a paragraph long and likely shared in detail by very few other people, if any.

The good news is that (with the exception of the worst Peril), SWM embraces most everything within the basic CIS gender bucket (we don't have much in the way of gay or lesbian contributions here). There is no wrong, and sometimes our interests are fluid.

Which is a form of enlightenment that I enjoy.

What I do find interesting, however, is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of writing that resembles SWM when I look into gay or lesbian on-line literature. You'd think some forms of the same interests (with a twist) would occur there, but it's rare, and when it does, it's usually CIS male fantasies about lesbians, which is generally accepted by other CIS males.

What I do know is that sexual interests in general within the LGBTQ community is at least as varied as in CIS genders, probably a lot more, but rarely does it travel down similar paths to ours.

One of life's little puzzles.
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01 Mar 2017 17:49 - 01 Mar 2017 17:51 #52897 by sidd1333
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shadar wrote: When I started writing genre stories back in the late 80's, I quickly became aware of the many forms of sexual interest people have for fictional characters, even within the broader genre that we enjoy.

The first thing I learned was not to judge. It was all good, although the various flavors of Peril never sat well with me. But I always understood the difference between fantasy and reality. Most of us maintain a bright line between the two.

Then, when Facebook came out with its 51 gender/sexual orientations, I thought, "What? So few?" When you compare that to sexual interests, even within one category of gender, we probably have hundreds in this genre alone. And we're predominately a CIS male audience based on what I see. Now we've added Sthenolagnia and Cratolagnia, which I'd never heard of before, but made sense once I understood them.

The one thing that seems apparent is that sexual interests are incredibly varied and individualistic, and any definitions or categorizations are woefully inadequate to reflect the diversity of thought. This validates the assumption I've always held that people are all truly individuals deep inside, even if we tend to fall into larger and more conventional buckets when viewed from outside.

If we could define our sexual interests to the absolute fullest in the tiniest detail, it would take an abbreviation to represent it that was a paragraph long and likely shared in detail by very few other people, if any.

The good news is that (with the exception of the worst Peril), SWM embraces most everything within the basic CIS gender bucket (we don't have much in the way of gay or lesbian contributions here). There is no wrong, and sometimes our interests are fluid.

Which is a form of enlightenment that I enjoy.

What I do find interesting, however, is that there doesn't seem to be a lot of writing that resembles SWM when I look into gay or lesbian on-line literature. You'd think some forms of the same interests (with a twist) would occur there, but it's rare, and when it does, it's usually CIS male fantasies about lesbians, which is generally accepted by other CIS males.

What I do know is that sexual interests in general within the LGBTQ community is at least as varied as in CIS genders, probably a lot more, but rarely does it travel down similar paths to ours.

One of life's little puzzles.


Thanks Shadar for bringing up the value of diversity of tastes. I don't think that revealing the two poli of our interest is going to make any split, as we see it's not an opposition but a whole spectrum. And even not of two poli but of a diversity of those.
I want to share why I really enjoy this discussion. On the one hand, I was eager to share what I like and to talk about it. On the other, reading others' posts was no less great. Whenever someone writes a story, with all heir love, about a girl of my not-most-favorite kind, I get involved too. Like, an inspired author teaches me to savour something new. Sure, this learning is limited, cause it needs to overlap with my likes. This is why (+1) I too won't like peril.
We are making many edges of a jewel, each of us pinning something that others may have missed but that others will get inspired with.
For instance, the images that Artnico shared a few posts ago in the thread, I won't say from the first sight that these are my favorite body types for a super heroine. But now, having seen them with his eyes, I love them, really. After years of surfing through DeviantArt for superwomen images and stories, I see much beauty which I was initially blind to.
All you guys, thanks a lot for sharing all this!! Not just in this thread )
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01 Mar 2017 19:12 #52900 by Monty
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A few years ago, I would have baulked at Tetsuko 's mass with a nope, not interested, but I think it works in dcm's graphics mode. It's like a cartoon I wouldn't be interested in a muscle morph of an actual real-life model to those extents!

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01 Mar 2017 21:10 #52901 by lfan
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Monty wrote: A few years ago, I would have baulked at Tetsuko 's mass with a nope, not interested, but I think it works in dcm's graphics mode. It's like a cartoon I wouldn't be interested in a muscle morph of an actual real-life model to those extents!


DCM is one of the very few artists I know that can draw very sexy females (in my mind) with so much vascularity. Tetsuko, Starla, Dyna......all his muscle girls are still very pleasing to the eye, eventhough I would not normally find characters that large very appealing.

Incidently, he is one heckuva nice guy in person. I don't know if he still is, but he used to be a caricature artist in the Disney parks (used to be in MGM by the Brown Derby) and met him on a couple of occassions. Very nice guy

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02 Mar 2017 21:45 - 02 Mar 2017 21:48 #52920 by AuGoose
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The Highlander wrote: A good example of this is a picture I had commissioned a while ago (attached below) of Amy Pond from Doctor Who having undergone a massive growth spurt. To me the size of her muscles are almost as much of a turn on as the implied strength behind them, and coupled with my existing attraction to Amy Pond it makes this one of my favourite pictures ever.

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Yeah, always thought it was a bit of a missed opportunity for the companions to not occasionally come away with permanent augments from the various hyper-tech locales they visited.

Now if only we could have such a spirited discussion about the relative merits of pterylagnia vs. pennalagnia ;).
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02 Mar 2017 21:53 - 02 Mar 2017 21:54 #52921 by LustMonster
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Now if only we could have such a spirited discussion about the relative merits of pterylagnia vs. pennalagnia ;).


Sorry man, but those two tiny little former Soviet republics got caught in the crossfire in the superwoman battle of the two bigger ones. There's nothing left of them but a vast sea of smoking rubble, and one KFC that has surprisingly managed to stay in business anyway.
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02 Mar 2017 23:17 #52925 by AuGoose
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LustMonster wrote: Sorry man, but those two tiny little former Soviet republics got caught in the crossfire in the superwoman battle of the two bigger ones. There's nothing left of them but a vast sea of smoking rubble, and one KFC that has surprisingly managed to stay in business anyway.


Not so surprising: everyone in region does love hot-wings :).

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30 Apr 2017 21:13 #53854 by DAB
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Both are awesome, but I find myself weighted towards muscle. But with how niche this it's I'll take that I can get.

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