Kneel before Roz

Dru1076 wrote: The next part should be up in the library today. In the meantime, it's been posted on DA. Thanks to everyone who took the time to let me know they enjoyed the first two parts. More to come.

(Edit: I submitted the story...it should show up in the library soon but looks like it might be delayed a little)


www.deviantart.com/dru1076/art/KBR3-Special-Agent-Roz-756768619

WLG wrote: I do agree that we could do without the homophobic slurs, though. 

SCOTT R wrote: I'm gonna cry if Roz goes away.

WLG wrote:

Dru1076 wrote:

WLG wrote: I do agree that we could do without the homophobic slurs, though. 

I guess we could do without the entire story really. I fear I am greatly lowering the standards of fine superwomen fiction in here.

But be honest...you werent expecting Tolstoy, were you?

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It would be tragic if you took them down because I mostly love them.. I just flinch a little at homophobic slurs (and terms like "fag" are just that whereas "pussy" isn't so there's scope for re-editing) as.i would if, for example, someone used the N word. 

Apologies, Dru, I know you were only gong for a bit of realism and I absolutely believe that you had no intention of being discriminatory but that's just the way I see it. 

That said, I am massively getting off on the stories!

Woodclaw wrote:

WLG wrote:

Dru1076 wrote:

WLG wrote: I do agree that we could do without the homophobic slurs, though. 

I guess we could do without the entire story really. I fear I am greatly lowering the standards of fine superwomen fiction in here.

But be honest...you werent expecting Tolstoy, were you?

i

It would be tragic if you took them down because I mostly love them.. I just flinch a little at homophobic slurs (and terms like "fag" are just that whereas "pussy" isn't so there's scope for re-editing) as.i would if, for example, someone used the N word. 

Apologies, Dru, I know you were only gong for a bit of realism and I absolutely believe that you had no intention of being discriminatory but that's just the way I see it. 

That said, I am massively getting off on the stories!

Although I'm not too fond of the theme I think this is one of those rare cases where those slurs makes sense. Roz is a character that is meant to be as obnoxious and exacrable as humanly possible. It makes perfect sense that she uses this kind of slurs, simply because she already considered herself somewhat "superior" before and now her powers simply cemented this idea.

At least that's how I read her.  

WLG wrote: , It's not a gay slur, it's a homophobic slur. That's the problem. I am not offended by the words I just consider them to be oppressive language. I am  British so I use the F Word and the C word profusely but I draw the line at oppressive language, be itracist or homophobic. 

 I realise that words such as fag are relatively acceptable in USA but I live in London which is a very progressive, multicultural and gay friendly city so language like that is very alien to me. 

 I mean, would it be okay for Roz to use the N word? 

Woodclaw wrote:

WLG wrote: , It's not a gay slur, it's a homophobic slur. That's the problem. I am not offended by the words I just consider them to be oppressive language. I am  British so I use the F Word and the C word profusely but I draw the line at oppressive language, be itracist or homophobic. 

 I realise that words such as fag are relatively acceptable in USA but I live in London which is a very progressive, multicultural and gay friendly city so language like that is very alien to me. 

 I mean, would it be okay for Roz to use the N word? 

The entire point is exactly the fact that this language is not okay at all. Roz is not meant to be a sympathetic character, she's meant to be someone that the reader either fear or despise.

WLG wrote: You are both missing my point. This is not about the attitudes or character flaws of a character in a story. It is about the use of terminology which contributes to the discrimination against, and oppression of, a body of people. 

Just as it was with the N word in Alabama in the sixties, so it is with terminology like "fag" right now. 

And I'm sorry but if she's using homophobic slurs then she is homophobic. 

Dru1076 wrote: I am not a homophobe. But...if I used that terrible slur then I guess I must be... Damn. I swear to god I didnt know. 

I am not sure how I feel about being homophobic. Of all the things I would learn about myself through the creative process this is most surprising. They say you learn something everyday, and they're bloody right.