Captain America was Captain Hydra the whole time

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Uh.......what?

Oh also hes no longer primarily a black character.

Wait were we going to get some shit for changing that back? oh. Does this cover that up and hide that issue ? Oh great.

I don't mind this post, but the story itself sort of bugs me.

The comic came out TODAY. You shouldn't run stories spoiling a TV Show/book/comic the day it comes out!

I have read the comic in question, it seems a bit too gimmicky to me. Also, the quotes from the story are "it really is him" (and the story backs it up with when he was turned).

And I claim it's too gimmicky as "why now?". There is NOTHING in the story that would make THIS the time he did something for Hydra. Unless we're told that the comics we read, those were the tales _after_ the fact, and we didn't really see what happened.

So it doesn't make a damn bit of sense to me with all the times he's foiled Hydra's plans when he could have just ... slacked off a bit and no one would have noticed. Unless the story can explain that, it's just shitty storytelling. Maybe they WILL address it, but I'd be surprised.

It's just a gimmick to sell more books and will soon be reversed and forgotten. It is pretty stupid though.

I agree with JD.
This is just stupid.
Any good will they built in the movies is just thrown away now.
Imagine some Mom bringing her kid to a comics shop and this is the first issue they pick up.
Potential comic fan lost.

What next: Superman is really Lex Luthor? Or Batman the Joker?

--Brantley

The problem with comic book characters is that the run out of stories. Generations of writers, all squeezed into the same box, will always try to break out with outrageous ideas just to enjoy a breath of fresh air. Which destroys iconic characters.

Imagine of Star Wars had to tell the same story over and over. Oh, yeah, well, hopefully that was just Force.

At the very minimum, switch to telling the stories of their children and eventually grandchildren. While you can't fundamentally change the character of iconic characters (ala Captain America) without disappointing everyone, his daughter (for instance) could be very different, fresh and interesting.

This is the problem with the classic comics houses... they don't do generations very well.

If I ever get to define a topic for the writing workshop at SWM, its going to be: Tell a story about Superman's daughters.

Lots of room for creativity there. How many daughters at what ages? Twins? How have their powers manifested as they grew up? Who is/are the mother(s)? Which vintage of Superman is the father? Are they fully Kryptonian or half something else? Human, Amazon, Almerican (Maxima), etc. What are their abilities? Their morality, their temperaments, their plans and goals? Good, bad, or morally ambiguous? Rebellious or cooperative? Carrying on the tradition or defying it? Etc. Etc.Etc.

The idea of generational stories provides so much room for individual and interesting story telling that also comes with huge creative freedom (compared to working with variations of the original characters).

DC touches on this from time to time in alternate stories, but this should be their mainstream. Just as it is in real life.

Star Wars is working in this space, and if successful, it will keep their franchise alive for another generation. Who is Rey, who are her parents and what abilities has she inherited? And Kylo Ren, born the son of heroes of the Rebellion, but now taken by the Dark Side. But forever?

Shadar

I think Marvel know they screwed up when their movie star is sending tweets questioning their decision:



While I do still think it is just a gimmick and will be retconned eventually, it was still a poor decision on the part of the editors.

I guess Marvel were worried that there was a "stupidity gap" between them and DC and they'd better do something to close it, quick.

It's like our generation's "One More Day." Oh wait, that was ours as well....

One reason TV soap operas have nearly all died is that the showrunners trashed the characters, and turned the story lines into practically nothing but musical beds. The thing is, people can get that sort of thing from reality shows. But apparently there are enough comics fans willing to put up with the same sort of crap that DC and Marvel will keep doing it.

Speaking of Star Wars, as Shadar did, Abrams didn't have to rehash the old story. I always figured a third trilogy could deal with the equivalent of the period of Reconstruction after the Civil War -- trying to build new institutions instead of just destroying old ones. The discussion has been mostly about the new diversity of characters, and I'm all for that. But what about diversity in story lines?

--Brantley

Here's something from today's New York Times about how the movies are treating this kind of thing:

www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/business/disn...an-and-superman.html

--Brantley

I note that Nick Spencer is a liberal activist. Does that mean some conservative activist will ring in, "Make Captain America Great Again?"

I comment further in a link at The Bright Empire:

www.brightempire.com/Blog.htm

--Brantley