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What do you look for in a story on this site?

21 Oct 2020 05:47 #69534 by Woody
Sorry if this grounds been covered and no I'm not using this as cover for a rant. I'm putting this out to help myself and others better hit you as a target audience. 

Why are you reading the stories on this site? Is it the author, subject matter,  something to read with one hand????

From what i can see personally a have a pretty nieche mob i seem to hit,  im not going to get to hiker or ceres levels of fame here and in mostly cool with this. And i know my bugglegum pop stories aren't for everyone. But in general.  What do you want to read here?

How as writers can we appeal to you?

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21 Oct 2020 07:02 #69535 by Avalian
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First - a woman who is stronger than humanly possible and very willing to use that.
Second - a good core concept that I can get behind
Third - it avoid my personal distastes. This means no peril, bodily function domination (toilet, scat) - misogyny is acceptable from the characters, but not from the narrative
Fourth - my strong preferences - beautification, transformation, power transfer
Fifth - my secondary preferences - super strength without necessarily super size, the corruption of power or the already corrupt becoming more powerful

Basically, I come here to find entertainment.
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21 Oct 2020 13:38 #69537 by HikerAngel
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Great idea for a thread, Woody! And thanks for the insight, Avalian. I’m really looking forward to seeing what people share here...

(Fame, Woody? Sheesh! :) )
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21 Oct 2020 14:48 #69538 by Sarge395
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Partial to bad girls but a sexy bratty good girl also works.  Attitude.  

Showing off abilities, flight, strength, superbreath (sheer wind force, targeted, freezing, suction), visual powers (heat, laser, other), mind control, telekinesis, etc.

A slow build that is planet involving.  At the local level for a long time.  Then maybe city wide.  A world of supers.  Each making a dent or positive.  Not planet destroying antics.  

A fitness model body.  Not a bulging body builder style.  

Some peril is ok.  But not a PERIL story.  This is not the place for women in peril.  It is the opposite.  

Dark Supergirl.  One of the best ever.  
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21 Oct 2020 17:49 #69540 by hbwh08
Personally I love to read about massive gaps in power and specifically invulnerability. Give me a confident girl showing off, enjoying her superiority, and I am hooked. It doesn't matter if it is a short story of some cute girl teaching some thugs a lesson or a really long ongoing story story like The LaPorte Caves.
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21 Oct 2020 22:56 - 21 Oct 2020 23:10 #69543 by ChaozCloud
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For me I like big power gaps. A girl so immensly powerful she can hold the weight of an entire galaxy on top of her fingertip is great to me. The character should be willing to use the power and show it off as she pleases. Which is why I tend to like evil girls more, as they have less qualms on when and where to use their powers. Though I do enjoy good girls too.

For powers, I like the standard kryptonian set, but more powers are always welcomed.

I will agree with Sarge395 that an escelation is the best. Maybe starting off a bit weaker (compared to what she will become) and increasing as the story goes on.
And I'll also agree on ftiness body over bodybuilder.

Not a fan of peril, as I like to watch the girls be dominant. Unless it's a second girl putting them in peril, though more through power rather than kryptonite and such.

Just my two cents.
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22 Oct 2020 14:20 #69547 by Pepper
Like most of the posters here, I like the stories that give a sense of transformation and liberation, of a woman gaining the strength and freedom to do what she wants and improve her life, and to enjoy it.

Where a lot of the stories lose me is when the heroine can't think of anything better to do with her powers than to lord them over people or tear battleships in half. I can't relate to a character who takes joy in destruction or in the pain and suffering of others.

I also don't care for those stories that tend to portray intimate relationships as a zero-sum game; that as the main character's power and happiness grow that her partner's happiness must diminish. Being flirtatious, even somewhat assertive is okay; demanding obedience is not. It seems to me that if someone really did have super or magical powers, she could find a way to better her life and those of the people she cares about. Power doesn't give someone the right to be abusive. That goes both ways; I don't really enjoy the stories where the lead character is abused or mistreated before her transformation, either.

I know that probably puts me in the minority on this site. It's clearly a trope here for super-strong women to gleefully show off their strength. I just prefer the stories that find a clever way to avoid the trope. 
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22 Oct 2020 18:44 - 22 Oct 2020 18:47 #69548 by shadar

Pepper wrote: Like most of the posters here, I like the stories that give a sense of transformation and liberation, of a woman gaining the strength and freedom to do what she wants and improve her life, and to enjoy it.

Where a lot of the stories lose me is when the heroine can't think of anything better to do with her powers than to lord them over people or tear battleships in half. I can't relate to a character who takes joy in destruction or in the pain and suffering of others.

I also don't care for those stories that tend to portray intimate relationships as a zero-sum game; that as the main character's power and happiness grow that her partner's happiness must diminish. Being flirtatious, even somewhat assertive is okay; demanding obedience is not. It seems to me that if someone really did have super or magical powers, she could find a way to better her life and those of the people she cares about. Power doesn't give someone the right to be abusive. That goes both ways; I don't really enjoy the stories where the lead character is abused or mistreated before her transformation, either.

I know that probably puts me in the minority on this site. It's clearly a trope here for super-strong women to gleefully show off their strength. I just prefer the stories that find a clever way to avoid the trope. 


I agree completely.... a supergirl/superwoman discovering her powers and finding amazing ways to use them which also benefits her lover. I prefer to depict that lover as an ordinary man, ranging from nerd/geek to an ex-SEAL, who greatly enjoys all his girlfriend's new abilities and the possibilities that opens up to change the world in some way.

I most prefer the combination of an inexperienced and somewhat naive supergirl in her teens whose powers are emerging, coupled with a boyfriend who is older and who has experience and knowledge and connections that are useful for her. In that sense, he adds great value to the relationship, combining his knowledge and experience with her immense power. 

Of late, a favorite theme is a man who is ex-Special Forces military, who has been discharged and disgruntled by the way the world or the military is run, or maybe even disabled to some degree from injuries they sustained in service, and who are very aware of the limitations that they faced as soldiers. Coupling that with a young girlfriend who breaks through all those barriers to accomplish impossible missions that he was never able to do as a soldier/aviator/SEAL/secret agent, etc.etc. Fighting always against a very capable and implacable enemy, who may be human and Earthly, or secret alien intruders. 

The two of them have a chance to save the world while their relationship grows closer and more intimate at the same time. The male lead character is usually some fantasy alter-ego version of myself. Which is to say, I write the story for myself, imagining a world I'd like to live in and a role I'd love to inhabit in real life. 

I know that doesn't always resonate with many of the members here, but I can only write what I like. This is fantasy, after all. 

Fortunately, there are always at least a few who enjoy such stories.  

Shadar
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23 Oct 2020 05:47 - 25 Oct 2020 05:22 #69556 by grungykitten
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My preference, is for the females to enjoy a massive advantage over men, specifically in muscular strength and lack of vulnerability to physical injuries, emphasis on the word “enjoy”. What the women choose to do with that advantage, and how the men deal with their disadvantage, makes no difference to me. As long as it is not too gory.

I tend to favor stories with strong character development and world building. Authors like Circes_cup, HikerAngel and Shadar create worlds that feel lived in, as opposed to feeling like mere playgrounds for their protagonists.

don’t get me wrong, I enjoy lightweight superwoman smut as much as the next guy. But there are lots of other sites out there where I can get that. This is the only site I know of where I can get quality superwoman fiction, and that’s what I look for on this site..
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24 Oct 2020 12:10 #69566 by BrokenIron
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I look for a good story about an immensely powerful, incredibly sexy woman who is trying to figure out her powers and her purpose in life.  I want her to be motivated by other people and more or less realistic about life and death.  The story needs to be about her and how she interacts with other people whether it is family, friend, coworkers, or lovers.   Their opinion has to matter.  She has to care about them. 

 What's the point of a story about someone who cannot be challenged and does not care for anyone else?

I don't mind a bad girl if she is motivated by something, but usually they are just evil.  There have been a few who have been pushed to the edge by people and strike out, but there is real room for say a Soviet Supergirl circa 1937 completely devoted to Stalin or another bad girl who is motivated by high ideals. There are some out there, but it has been a while.

I do not care for the omnipotent woman stories.  If the descriptions are great I might read some of them, but they do not do much for me. I tend to like the traditional Kryptonian power set.  Super intelligence
can be cool too, but if you ad anything else to the mix they just
become overwhelming. 

And, frankly, a fitness model with the physical power of ten women is a superhero.  Think about a 5'8 inch woman with an 2000lbs bench press and a 25 foot vertical leap.  She is barely worth mentioning on this site, but just being 10X stronger than a
normal woman her size and build would make her out of this world.  She
would actually have to be somewhat tougher to handle the stress, but the
trials and tribulations of a young woman in that range would be a great
story.  She could literally win every athletic competition, but she
would still barely be in the realm of human.  . 

One of my pet peeves is that good people do not randomly kill people because they can't or even because they are going to get caught.  They don't kill people because it is not the right thing to do.  For a normal person killing someone - even accidentally - is traumatic, but often writers blow past this in a hurry.  

Finally, I hate stories where no one is sexy.  There are some of those out there and I will read them sometimes too, but sex appeal is a big part of the attraction.  I tend to dig the fitness model build of more or less normal size and sometimes smaller stature is better.   

My favorite writers are Shadar, HikerAngel, HarmonyInMoton, CircesCup, and others that write in a similar vein, but I appreciate everyone who gives it a try.
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24 Oct 2020 15:50 #69568 by smoki07
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My preferences match with grundykitten's. Good girls over bad ones but it's not simple. it's all about story in the end. I can like per example HikerAngel's stories even if villains prevails. Argonaut did start something interesting with "Baker's Dozens" but the story is abandoned now.
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25 Oct 2020 13:01 #69571 by Bert
It's been interesting to read these preferences. I've been a fan of superheroines for a very long time, although my tastes include more peril than this site is generally comfortable with. I've written a couple stories about a more believable, real world Supergirl embarking on a crimefighting career and facing difficulties before ultimately prevailing. I've considered posting the stories here, but I haven't because I suspected there might be some backlash due to the peril content. Reading these posts makes me think that was probably the right call.

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25 Oct 2020 16:47 #69572 by smoki07
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Bert wrote: It's been interesting to read these preferences. I've been a fan of superheroines for a very long time, although my tastes include more peril than this site is generally comfortable with. I've written a couple stories about a more believable, real world Supergirl embarking on a crimefighting career and facing difficulties before ultimately prevailing. I've considered posting the stories here, but I haven't because I suspected there might be some backlash due to the peril content. Reading these posts makes me think that was probably the right call.


By peril, do you means Superheirone mind-controlled by some douchebag or villain?

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25 Oct 2020 17:03 #69573 by shadar

Bert wrote: It's been interesting to read these preferences. I've been a fan of superheroines for a very long time, although my tastes include more peril than this site is generally comfortable with. I've written a couple stories about a more believable, real world Supergirl embarking on a crimefighting career and facing difficulties before ultimately prevailing. I've considered posting the stories here, but I haven't because I suspected there might be some backlash due to the peril content. Reading these posts makes me think that was probably the right call.


A good story of the classic style, IMHO, should force the protagonist to struggle mightily to overcome danger and conflict and that means putting them in harms way. The heroine's path becomes increasingly difficult leading to a climax where she eventually finds a way to overcome the threats. And given she's superhuman, the challenges can be extreme. 

That alone doesn't make it Peril. 

My definition of Peril (and others may have better definitions) is when a style of writing makes it clear that degradation and attacks on the female heroine are the primary focus of the story. And if she does win, it's usually a brief bit of miraculousness at the end after most of the story was in involved beating her down. There are often but not always misogynist elements. 

It's not just a difference in degree of hardship or violence, but of flavor, and that's kind of hard to define. But I can easily recognize the flavor of Peril when I'm reading it.

If you are unsure where your stories stand in that regard, especially if you aren't ensconced within the Peril genre and your stories aren't enthusiastically supported by fans of that genre, then I'd suggest posting one here to dip your toe in the water.

Maybe this audience will like it. Never know until you try. 

Shadar
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25 Oct 2020 22:11 #69576 by Slim0926
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well for me, it seems a little taboo, but it;s really hard to find stories where the girl grows up with super strength. For instance what would the character be like if she lived at home with her family and she discovers that she's way stronger than anybody in her family and uses this to get her way with anything she wants, and this could be eventually where her power and strength slowly has her taking over her family, then the neighborhood then her school or even a college town near by. I'm not a all super powers guy ,I just like the girl to grow stronger as the days and years go by..MY THOUGHTS and WANTS..LOve this site 
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26 Oct 2020 01:38 #69579 by wf711022
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shadar wrote:

Pepper wrote: Like most of the posters here, I like the stories that give a sense of transformation and liberation, of a woman gaining the strength and freedom to do what she wants and improve her life, and to enjoy it.

Where a lot of the stories lose me is when the heroine can't think of anything better to do with her powers than to lord them over people or tear battleships in half. I can't relate to a character who takes joy in destruction or in the pain and suffering of others.

I also don't care for those stories that tend to portray intimate relationships as a zero-sum game; that as the main character's power and happiness grow that her partner's happiness must diminish. Being flirtatious, even somewhat assertive is okay; demanding obedience is not. It seems to me that if someone really did have super or magical powers, she could find a way to better her life and those of the people she cares about. Power doesn't give someone the right to be abusive. That goes both ways; I don't really enjoy the stories where the lead character is abused or mistreated before her transformation, either.

I know that probably puts me in the minority on this site. It's clearly a trope here for super-strong women to gleefully show off their strength. I just prefer the stories that find a clever way to avoid the trope. 


I agree completely.... a supergirl/superwoman discovering her powers and finding amazing ways to use them which also benefits her lover. I prefer to depict that lover as an ordinary man, ranging from nerd/geek to an ex-SEAL, who greatly enjoys all his girlfriend's new abilities and the possibilities that opens up to change the world in some way.

I most prefer the combination of an inexperienced and somewhat naive supergirl in her teens whose powers are emerging, coupled with a boyfriend who is older and who has experience and knowledge and connections that are useful for her. In that sense, he adds great value to the relationship, combining his knowledge and experience with her immense power. 

Of late, a favorite theme is a man who is ex-Special Forces military, who has been discharged and disgruntled by the way the world or the military is run, or maybe even disabled to some degree from injuries they sustained in service, and who are very aware of the limitations that they faced as soldiers. Coupling that with a young girlfriend who breaks through all those barriers to accomplish impossible missions that he was never able to do as a soldier/aviator/SEAL/secret agent, etc.etc. Fighting always against a very capable and implacable enemy, who may be human and Earthly, or secret alien intruders. 

The two of them have a chance to save the world while their relationship grows closer and more intimate at the same time. The male lead character is usually some fantasy alter-ego version of myself. Which is to say, I write the story for myself, imagining a world I'd like to live in and a role I'd love to inhabit in real life. 

I know that doesn't always resonate with many of the members here, but I can only write what I like. This is fantasy, after all. 

Fortunately, there are always at least a few who enjoy such stories.  

Shadar

I like this idea very much and I look forward to seeing this novel as soon as possible
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26 Oct 2020 02:37 #69580 by HikerAngel
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Slim0926 wrote: well for me, it seems a little taboo, but it;s really hard to find stories where the girl grows up with super strength. For instance what would the character be like if she lived at home with her family and she discovers that she's way stronger than anybody in her family and uses this to get her way with anything she wants, and this could be eventually where her power and strength slowly has her taking over her family, then the neighborhood then her school or even a college town near by. I'm not a all super powers guy ,I just like the girl to grow stronger as the days and years go by..MY THOUGHTS and WANTS..LOve this site 

This is a seriously good idea! :)
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26 Oct 2020 09:26 #69584 by Woodclaw
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Slim0926 wrote: well for me, it seems a little taboo, but it;s really hard to find stories where the girl grows up with super strength. For instance what would the character be like if she lived at home with her family and she discovers that she's way stronger than anybody in her family and uses this to get her way with anything she wants, and this could be eventually where her power and strength slowly has her taking over her family, then the neighborhood then her school or even a college town near by. I'm not a all super powers guy ,I just like the girl to grow stronger as the days and years go by..MY THOUGHTS and WANTS..LOve this site 


It's the third time over the last week or so that someone put me in front of a scenaro like this, which reminds me The Twilight Zone.

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26 Oct 2020 10:10 #69585 by koopa
Personnally  looking for hot transformation of women into uber version of themselves.
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26 Oct 2020 16:12 #69586 by Bert
Okay, I'll give it a shot.

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