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09 Jun 2016 15:01 #48392 by fats
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Hi all,

Due to the lack of donations to the site Lfan and I are implementing Adsense adverts on to the site, we are going to have them on the front page and on the forums, we will keep adverts out of stories but if needs be that can change.

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09 Jun 2016 15:22 #48394 by Sarge395
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Totally understandable.
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09 Jun 2016 15:25 #48395 by LustMonster
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I'm fine with this, but I think you should also add the option of a monthly paid subscription that would turn off the ads.
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09 Jun 2016 16:02 #48397 by shadar
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No problem for me... I run an ad-blocker so I won't see them.

I'll continue to donate a few bucks from time to time instead.

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09 Jun 2016 16:56 #48398 by Woodclaw
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LustMonster wrote: I'm fine with this, but I think you should also add the option of a monthly paid subscription that would turn off the ads.


This is a bloody good idea.

(formerly Anon, still Librarian)

"What is the point of having free will if one cannot occasionally spit in the eye of destiny?" ("Gentleman" John Marcone)
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09 Jun 2016 17:30 #48401 by kikass2014
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No problem. And understandable.

Peace.

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09 Jun 2016 17:56 #48402 by fats
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Hi,

We are needing around $360 per year to run this site, there are around 1000 hits to the site per day, if only 1/3 of those people gave only $1 once per year we would have enough to cover the costs of this site, we raised over the last 6 months $100 which lfan has had to put into his pocket the remaining amount to cover the costs for the billing period (6 months) both lfan and I are angry that we need to get advertising to pay the hosting.

There is no cost way at this time to make the site ad-free for those who pay for a subscription, there is a way that costs $100 to buy and will take time to implement on the site, time that I do not have.

If you run an ad-blocker on the site you will deprive the site of money, so, I would ask for those who are running one to whitelist the site. I can provide instructions if needs require it.

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09 Jun 2016 19:01 #48405 by Markiehoe
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If you need to run advertisements then run them.

Personally I was donating every month until this site wholly endorsed the "leaked" copy of the Supergirl pilot.
Thus advocating torrent and other sites that steal content from creators.
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09 Jun 2016 19:57 #48410 by TwiceOnThursdays
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Markiehoe wrote: If you need to run advertisements then run them.

Personally I was donating every month until this site wholly endorsed the "leaked" copy of the Supergirl pilot.
Thus advocating torrent and other sites that steal content from creators.


I'm all for the adds if it keeps the site up!

I try to remember to donate every few months. I need to set reminders. I'm not sure if having the real would help. Need $x/year. Year to date: $y. (I would hope everyone would realize that getting that # higher than the 'need' is ok too.)

And I guess everyone makes their own values judgements. I viewed the "leaked" copy as just that, quoted leaked. That is it was done on purpose by the copyright holders as advertising. I didn't view downloading it as "stealing content from creators". It's not unusual for shows to release their first episode for free from various sites even when the other episodes are not.

I did however made sure I legally watched it when it came out. As long as I did that, anything I did wasn't "stealing", by any definition they didn't loose any money from me. Now, abusing a copyright (etc), yes, absolutely. I viewed content that I didn't have a legal right for at the time ... but no loss of money was involved.

Nor did I see SWM as advocating stealing from creators (in this specific case or in general). IIRC, SWM wouldn't even host a link to the torrent or allow it to be posted -- just allowed us to talk about it if we'd done so ourselves. In fact, in balance this has been one of the few sites that seems very creator friendly. We pimp movies that fit our niche from small publishers, and encourage people to buy them. There are regular posts about kick starters (etc), new comics, and other media which fit the SWM niche.

There are even a few creators who stop by here -- I would think that it's partially because doing so is good for their sales. (maybe some of them could comment.)
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09 Jun 2016 20:12 #48411 by pocketfull
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I'm also all for adverts and will certainly whitelist the site.

Two other complementary things you could try to raise funds:
1. having a large "please donate now" banner for a part of the year like Wikipedia does - it seems to work for them so it may work to some extent for SWM.
2. going directly to creators (of genre videos and other content) and offering them the opportunity to advertise. You could possibly offer them the opportunity to go on a feed on the home page next to SuperGirl Threads, Forum Latest and Latest Stories. They could pay an amount per video to add to the feed, and links on the feed could go straight to the videos on their websites.

My DeviantArt: j1a2c3k4.deviantart.com/
A simulator which works out what happens when a boxer fights a super girl: shefightshimwhowins.github.io/
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09 Jun 2016 20:14 #48412 by inactive
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It's been too long since I donated. I remedied that with a small one just now.

Would you be open to ads from small content providers or self-published authors (cough). If so, get in touch and we can talk price and specs.

- GeekSeven
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09 Jun 2016 20:16 #48413 by Markiehoe
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The day the show was leaked Fats shut down the first time the link was posted here stating it was against SWM policy to encourage pirate sites.

Within 24 hours things were different.
Everytime Supergirl popped up on legitimate sites like You Tube the WB had it taken down.
Members here including the admins all watched it on illegal sites.

To get back to the topic at hand:
Post advertising if you have to.
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09 Jun 2016 20:57 #48415 by fats
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we would be up for adverts from content providers I can establish something on the front page for that.

pocketfull all great ideas, ones that we can take forward.

If any content providers want to have a chat then please let me know.

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10 Jun 2016 00:16 #48420 by Markiehoe
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Here is a question.
Many content providers basically advertise here for free by posting links to videos, comics, etc.
Would posts like those now be verbotten in favor of a paid advertising slot?
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10 Jun 2016 00:20 #48421 by Woodclaw
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Markiehoe wrote: Here is a question.
Many content providers basically advertise here for free by posting links to videos, comics, etc.
Would posts like those now be verbotten in favor of a paid advertising slot?


I think that the key advantage of a paying ad would that it would run all the time, without any need to check periodically or to keep the relevant thread up on the front page by constantly bumping it. So, in my opinion, if a producer has the time, but not the money, he can always opt to use the forum for posting links and such. Otherwise, one that has the money, but not the time, can opt for having a banner. The two options are both valid.

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10 Jun 2016 17:35 #48441 by Markiehoe
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Good point Woodclaw

You should go into advertising sales.
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10 Jun 2016 17:48 #48442 by Woodclaw
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Markiehoe wrote: Good point Woodclaw

You should go into advertising sales.


I don't think I'll even be able to do that. I still have a conscience.

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10 Jun 2016 18:06 #48443 by inactive
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I think also that somebody who only uses the forums to promote and doesn't contribute otherwise will find they have less weight attributed to their promo, while an advertiser wouldn't have that issue, because they are contributing financially.

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10 Jun 2016 18:44 #48445 by lfan
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Markiehoe wrote: Here is a question.
Many content providers basically advertise here for free by posting links to videos, comics, etc.
Would posts like those now be verbotten in favor of a paid advertising slot?


No
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10 Jun 2016 19:29 #48447 by fats
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I've received a number of ideas as to how we fund this site, from sponsored banners right through to downloadable exclusive content, from hosting other content providers sites and everything in between.

I'm going to spend the weekend going through it and I'll let members know what's going on on Monday.

Remember that you can still donate via the donate feature on the front page as I said, $1 from each user would give us enough money to cover all our costs.

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