Xmas Workshop Result

Hi all,

OK we have had a workshop running for Xmas but unfortunately due to my bad promotion of the workshop only one entry has been submitted, so Castor has won this workshop with his story entitled How Superwomenmania Saved Christmas a great little tail that I know you will enjoy.

Look out in the new year for the announcements on the workshops.

Again thanks to castor and sorry to all those who did not know that there was a workshop on, I've taken note and I will resolve this in the new year.

Fats

I guess congratulations are in order!

I sent my entry 'Gemma at the Gym' in through Lfan...seeing that I'm a 'legend' I was worried about it going straight into the library and being disqualified or something. Since then, I have found the right place to send workshop entries, and so this will not happen next time. I'll just pop my 'entry' straight into the library now...it wasn't a Christmassy story anyway.

Congratulations Castor!!

It's on the list...but not at the top. I think it goes on submission date or something, so look down the list a little.

Or click here: www.superwomenmania.com/index.php?option...christmas&Itemid=596

Mea Culpa time! This is entirely MY fault, Dru, and I apologize to you and everyone else. Due to the holidays and last minute rushing, I kinda got behind and never coordinated with FATS. I didn't realize there was only one entry besides yours and thus an "automatic winner". My apologies....

ElF

So far the only precedent of a single entry workshop was the 1.11. As far as I remeber this wasn't considered a "default win", but rather a botched workshop.

Well...as the only other potential winner of this workshop, I don't have a problem with Castor being declared a victor. If the other team is no show, then it's a forfeit, and the team that does show wins, no matter if the no-shows absences was their own fault or not. Isn't that how it works? I've always thought so, anyway....I'd suggest that whoever entered that other one horse race should also be declared a winner. I mean...they were there, weren't they? Even if no one else was. Be reasonable,gentlemen, It's not Castors fault my story or anyone else's didn't compete with his, why should anyone try to take this away from him? I think I'm the only one with the right to bitch about this, and I'm fine with it.

circes_cup wrote:
What do you all say to that idea?

To that idea...I say this: I like you Circes. You got generosity and class, as well as being a very talented author. There needs to be more guys around like you.

njae wrote:

circes_cup wrote: ...

What do you all say to that idea?

Who are you and how did you hack circes_cups account? Seriously, you're one of the last people whom I expected to make such a call given that when you did post in the feedback threads for a certain workshop, you only addressed one or two stories at most while ignoring every other entry.

Are you joking or are you seriously calling out someone for not formally giving feedback?!? First of all, the fact that he commented on ANY of the entries puts in a selective minority. Secondly, Circes didn't suggest forum feedback but rather PMs or private communications. How do you know he didn't PM some of the other authors?

ElF

circes_cup wrote: I hadn't been aware that njae (and possibly others?) were dissappointed with how I handled commentary on past workshops.

To be completly honest I have been dissatisfied as well. While one more opinion is always appreciated, giving your feedback only to2-3 stories out of the entire workshop batch is an issue for me. Simply put, it gave the wrong impression that those stories were the only worth of attention in your eyes. Hence those authors who got no feedback - positive r negative - are left in the dark about the quality of their narrative, which kind of defies the whole purpose of a workshop.

However, to the extent you have an issue with something I've done, it shouldn't affect how we respond to Castor.

Castor, as far as I can tell, has produced more material this calendar year than anyone else. And now he's asking for some feedback. I'm going to send him a PM. You do whatever you think is appropriate.

I think that - unless you have private matters to discuss with Castor - public feedback will be better, since it would allow for better visibility and might start a worthy discussion.

circes_cup wrote: I hadn't been aware that njae (and possibly others?) were dissappointed with how I handled commentary on past workshops. However, to the extent you have an issue with something I've done, it shouldn't affect how we respond to Castor.

Castor, as far as I can tell, has produced more material this calendar year than anyone else. And now he's asking for some feedback. I'm going to send him a PM. You do whatever you think is appropriate.

I wasn't dissapointed. I personally do the lionshare of my critiques and feedback via email or PMs.

ElF

feedback [ˈfiːdˌbæk]
n
1. (Electronics)
a. the return of part of the output of an electronic circuit, device, or mechanical system to its input, so modifying its characteristics. In negative feedback a rise in output energy reduces the input energy; in positive feedback an increase in output energy reinforces the input energy
b. that part of the output signal fed back into the input
2. (Electronics & Computer Science / Telecommunications) the return of part of the sound output by a loudspeaker to the microphone or pick-up so that a high-pitched whistle is produced
3. (Music) the whistling noise so produced
4. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Biology)
a. the effect of the product of a biological pathway on the rate of an earlier step in that pathway
b. the substance or reaction causing such an effect, such as the release of a hormone in a biochemical pathway
5. (Communication Arts / Journalism & Publishing) information in response to an inquiry, experiment, etc. there was little feedback from our questionnaire
vb feed back
adv
1. (Engineering / General Engineering) (tr) to return (part of the output of a system) to its input
2. to offer or suggest (information, ideas, etc.) in reaction to an inquiry, experiment, etc.

However you do it, However you received it, However you act on it, is it not the most important thing that people are reading it, when ever I post something or come up with something that is feel would make the site better, I like to receive some feedback. do I go nuts if I don't get feedback? No. What I find more important is the view count, if no one views the post then I would feel shitty, if there is 300 views and no feedback, I would take that as I need to do something that needs changing, if you live and die based on your feedback then you really need to review your thinking on what counts when you publish something the fact that there are a number of ways to respond to a story shows that sometimes there are too many ways to get feedback.

I would suggest that the first rule of writing is write for your own self gratification rather than for feedback, if you don't feel joy in writing for yourself then maybe you need to look at why you are writing in the first place.

Can there be too brutal feedback given, yes and no. Some writers take great pride in stirring up the pot and getting people riled and getting nasty feedback, some look for feedback that is nice and gentle, I think it's always a good idea to say in the opening whether or not the feedback wanted is hard or soft, let the viewer know, that way there wouldn't be any issues.

Feedback via PM or email, this should be looked on as the best form of feedback as it allows people the chance to engage with the viewer and get the truest sense of where the viewers sees the story going.

Lastly, I would like to say that on the issue of the winner of the workshop, if there is only one submission then they have won by default, I don't see how it could be looked at in any other way, in professional events when there is a only one runner or one tennis player that person has won that race or round. I don't see how that could not work when there is only one entry.

Fats