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What would you like to see? (Wicked City Girls)

09 Nov 2014 12:44 - 09 Nov 2014 13:16 #38951 by Woodclaw
Personally I don't mind the lack of "proper" costumes, since the girls we saw so far have a definite look and feel and an iconic way of dressing that - in my eyes - equates to a costume.
The big if so far is the existence of an overall plot that ties all these stories together, I can see the need for an explanation - however tenous - about where these girls comes from, but I think that right now this plot feels kind of hanging. On one hand it ties things together and gave the impressione of a coherent universe, on the other it creates a rather unnecessary substrate that complicates things. I think that this extra plot need to be fleshed out a bit more.

On the superpowers side, I'm not a big fan of throat-lifts. I recognize that they work, but it's an easily abused trope and sometimes it grows tiresome. I would like a bit more variety as far as strength goes (the Nemisis video prodided a rather nice show with the one-punch-kills).

castor wrote: As for Wicked City Girls.

The one thing i can consistently say about there videos -I like them when there funny. Jess a legitimately funny comedian, and when she does her stuff with humor its always very good. She has a witt and style to her that's really commendable.

If they where to do an out and out comedy that does a good job of softening I think some of the blunt force of it-that's something
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I think that Castor nailed it on the head. Dark comedy is definitely one Jess's strong suits and I think that adding a bit more of that to the videos might be beneficial. I'm not sure that a straight out comedy will work, though.

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09 Nov 2014 19:53 #38954 by fdomfan1

superhumanteenlover wrote: the only thing that is not objectionable is that there some superpowers (super strenght and invulnerability) are more loved here then others.
I don't think this concept is too hard to understand.


I know there are some language barriers going on here, but I have to tell you, I PERSONALLY go for magical powers like mind control, body morphing, etc. far more than things like super strength. That's not to say I don't love classic supergirl-esque powers, it's just that not EVERYONE here agrees with your statement.

For example, my favorite story here is Infinite Crisis chapter 4, because there is so much of the magical powers I like being used in a mean and malicious way, which for whatever reason is what I go for.

I would love to see videos along the lines of exactly what EE suggested, in addition to mind control, breast expansion and body morphing against people's will. An evil God-like supergirl would be great.

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09 Nov 2014 20:31 #38956 by inactive
What I would like to see is destruction on a massive scale. Jess and the others destroying an entire city, wiping out armies that try to stop them, hunting down the survivors for sport, tearing apart tanks, spiking aircraft carriers like volleyballs, and finally walking out of a nuclear explosion without a mark on them.

That would be doable on a small budget, right?

More realistically, creative use of superpowers is fun. Skeet shooting : one girl throws people up into tje air and another one nails them with laser.vision. I'm pretty drunk right now, though.

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09 Nov 2014 20:46 #38957 by SHTL
exact !

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09 Nov 2014 23:07 #38959 by fats
OK, there has been a lot said and i wanted to to address some if the points raised by this thread.

Firstly I set up this thread for one purpose to HELP WCG get a better understanding of what people are after and to identify where people think improvements could come from.

The point of VFX work and what powers could be brought in, I’ve had extensive chats with the people who do the camera work and editing and I know that there is talent there for VFX work, and I know that they are looking at doing more, the issue they are having is time, it takes time to edit and do VFX work, the people behind are doing this as a second job so there is a limit at what they can do.

Costumes has been a huge point raised, I agree that a costume would be great but again there is something said for girls who are in "street" clothes going something super. Could there be costumes in the future, only Jess and Co. can say, for me a costume is not a deal breaker as to if a video is good or not, one thing that I do want to say is that we need to get away from the Super Girl/Power Girl costumes, they have been done to death, in fact when I see some new content being posted where the girl is in a costume that has a SG or PG vibe I immediately think "boring", that's the main reason why I’ve not bought any content from other producers.

The idea of a monologue is a good one, something that can carry the series forward and be quick and easy to shoot.

The point about the comedy is a good one, Jess is a funny person, a bit nuts but funny, I agree that element of the videos raise it above the norm, I do hope that could be expanded upon without it being too domineering and taking away from what is the core of what they do.

Last point about WCG that I want to raise is that I’m not part of WCG, I’ve been asked to consult and provide advice on equipment and their web site, I’ve had a feeling from some of the comments that people think I’m part of them, I’m not. I'm happy to help any producer of content out with what ever they need from a technical side of things, that's the type of person that I’m.

I've found what has been said as informative and interesting, hopefully over time we can help other producers shoot content that we are looking for.

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09 Nov 2014 23:13 #38961 by Woodclaw

superhumanteenlover wrote: the only thing that is not objectionable is that there some superpowers (super strenght and invulnerability) are more loved here then others.
I don't think this concept is too hard to understand.


I think I have to disagree with you on the idea that these powers are more loved or more popular. While this is entirely possible, I think that they're (ab)used because they're more integral to the general idea of super. I think that this is because the idea of superstrong characters (from Herakles to Samson) is so deeply ingraned in our minds that it's pretty much a given for superhuman to go there. If you look at the comicdom as a whole superstrength and invulnerability are a dime-a-dozen powers, almost like the basic package that an author use when he runs out of ideas.

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10 Nov 2014 06:11 - 10 Nov 2014 06:16 #38965 by castor
One thing i can say this about Jess.

She likes what she does- and i can certainly respect that. And that shows in her videos. I think she likes her videos. This could be a lie in order to sell a few videos online after spending years lurking in the background here, but i doubt it somehow. I don't think she is unique in wanting to do stuff like this-but she is in the sence and will in doing this.

And like any creative person to a degree has do what fans want (you would be suprised how much Anti Goverment Millita material i have to cut out my stories), i wouldn't want her to change that.

But this is a helpful thread

Castor

PS. Destroying a city is tricky-but devistation and destruction is also stuff you can get from Stock footage.
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10 Nov 2014 12:14 #38969 by jnw550
I agree on the point of SG or PG costumes and I feel it would certainly be far and away better if created their own costumed hero/ villain.

Everyone wants to be a beast, until it's time to do what real beasts do.

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10 Nov 2014 17:05 #38974 by shadar
I haven't weighed in on this thread until now, given it was a bit chaotic and contentious.

I suspect if I was an aspiring video content developer, I'd have to conclude that there isn't an obvious "sweet spot" when it comes to people's wants. Also that there is no secret for commercial video success that can be gleaned from these comments. In the end, make what you find is exciting and hope you find an audience. Just like the rest of us who create content.

That said, I personally dislike killing and destruction as their own end, but a little of that is necessary to heighten plots and create suspense and challenges for the protagonist to overcome. In the end, powers used to help people rather than hurt them is the only thing truly interesting to me. Powers mostly of the SG type with enhanced sexuality, although only R to NC17 rating and not genre porn, which I truly dislike. In the end, a real story, with all the elements of a classic tale. The kind of story form that people have been using to tell each other whoppers, starting from the invention of language.

Somehow comics and other "short" forms of fiction have lost that formula, but successful "long form" fiction (novels and the better movies) always follow it. One has only to see a movie like Frozen to see the classic story concepts in play.

It can be a tale of redemption, or perhaps overcoming flaws and adversity, maybe the triumph of love over hate, goodness over evil. Sacrifice for the greater good. The struggle for survival against great evil. The kinds of things that have always fascinated people.

Any tale that involves some of those concepts, combined with SG type powers, will hook me every time. Take those away and it's just more noise to be filtered out and ignored, no matter how good the costumes or special effects. IMHO.

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24 Nov 2014 21:44 #39113 by SHTL
JUST DOWNLOADED "SILENCER EPISODE 1", SIMPLY AWESOME, VERY VERY RECOMMENDED !!!

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24 Nov 2014 21:55 #39114 by JessP
Ha! I was just gonna announce the release, but you beat me to it, SHTL!
I hope everybody checks this one out; we busted our asses making it!
Lots of superpowers, an incredibly gorgeous lead character, and our personal homage to the Ursa arm wrestling scene from Superman II :)
Check it out here!

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24 Nov 2014 22:32 - 25 Nov 2014 01:52 #39115 by Brantwood
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Hi Jess,

i am already downloading !!

Bought the 2 other Clips, they are simply AWESOME !!!

Question : What comes next ??


Keep up the great work !!!

Another Question : What about " The Heather Effect " ??
Will there be an Contuitation ??
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25 Nov 2014 00:27 #39118 by Revan
*Starts downloading right away*

So now that the 3 'launch' video's are available, how long do you think it'll take you to release more awesomeness?

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25 Nov 2014 00:30 #39119 by dauntingmold
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These films keep getting better and better, loved the opening scene, arguing over what powers Wonder Woman has, classic !! The special effects are great, the acting is superb, and the story has me wanting to know more about these characters. For me these films are the best thing to hit the net in a very long time. If you keep producing, I'll keep buying. Best $10 I've spent this year.

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25 Nov 2014 05:42 - 25 Nov 2014 05:58 #39122 by berkshirelad2012
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As i suspected...it keeps getting better and better $10 well spent, hope the episodes keep rolling of the production line :O)

(seeing as there was a question to this thread title)

I wouldn't mind seeing a female character gain powers and explore them and show them off, even humiliate a man or men in her life, maybe changing the dynamic of there relationship, perhaps the violent criminal king pin has a girlfriend that he treats like crap and always takes his frustrations out on and belittles in front of his men, one day the weak little women becomes quite the opposite, perhaps taking over the gang or operation thus creating a new king pin in town, only she wear high heeled boots....something along those lines anyway :O)
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26 Nov 2014 18:51 #39141 by JessP
Hi!
First off, thank you all so, so very much for the kind words! I've reached the point where I consider fans of this little niche to be one big extended family of mine, so it means a great deal to me that our work is being appreciated! Y'all rock!
@berkshirelad2012: That's a pretty awesome idea, actually. We may have to steal it...
@Brantwood: I'm no longer involved in Heather Effect, so it's not my place to talk about what (if any) future the site has. :(
As far as what's next for Wicked City Girls, we'll be releasing another freebie next week that introduces a new lead character. All I'll say is that you guys are gonna LOVE this girl!
We have a total action-oriented episode planned for later this month because sometimes it just feels good to have a little mindless fun!
Parts 2 and 3 of the Nemesis Trilogy will be out early next year. (We've already filmed them!) They'll close out Callie's story, but don't worry, Sullivan will be back as a new character shortly thereafter because she's beyond awesome!
It's looking more and more like costumes may be in our girls' future, but you didn't hear that from me...
Again, thanks a million to everybody and as always, let us know what you want to see next!
Jess
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26 Nov 2014 19:54 #39142 by harrycane
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Oh goodness, my heart skipped a beat when I read Ursa and Superman II. :woohoo: Just makes me think of massive superbreath scenes immediately! ;)
Is there going to be any of it? Superbreath's not on the powers-list of the characters sadly. I hope it'll be on there some day! :)

Keep up the great work!! :)

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26 Nov 2014 20:15 #39143 by Markiehoe
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"It's looking more and more like costumes may be in our girls' future, but you didn't hear that from me..."

Hot Dog!
ooops....... didn't hear a thing! ;)

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27 Nov 2014 00:37 #39146 by CDR
Bought them all. Gotta support supergirl-content makers!
I'll watch them carefully and respond to this question in some time.
Awesome material anyway!
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27 Nov 2014 20:12 #39154 by KAP
More super strength feats. The bar bending has all been done before and is getting stale, and poorly done. Rip open a safe, Crush a lock. outpull a bulldozer. Do something different!

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