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The Annie Hall of Superheroes

09 Dec 2015 14:27 #45587 by lfan
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Nice article on Melissa and Supergirl. Even nicer picture!

www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/12/sup...star-melissa-benoist

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10 Dec 2015 20:52 #45612 by shadar
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I missed this post earlier... nice picture and great article.

Interesting that I've heard this multiple times now -- how the show is built around Melissa's personality and it likely wouldn't have been made with any other actress.

Interesting, people said that before about the Ally McBeal show, with Calista.

Calista and Melissa own the show, and by virtue of personality as opposed to clever scripts. While some actors (Charlize Theron comes to mind) are more of a blank canvas who can convincingly play a wide variety of extremely different roles, Calista and Melissa are more or less the way they appear.

That makes them lesser actresses than say Charlize, but at the same time, more fun to watch because you know you aren't just seeing the skill of the writer. They are "authentic" while Charlize is more "talented", in terms of actors.

Or so it seems to me...

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11 Dec 2015 22:38 #45625 by Woodclaw
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I'm going to quote my own Facebook comment to that picture.

"Ms. Danvers, we have a certain agent Coulson on the phone,. He said he wants his car back. Now!" ;)

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12 Dec 2015 12:53 #45629 by fats
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colson had a 1962 Chevrolet Corvette, that's a e-type Jaguar, looks like a MK.1.

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12 Dec 2015 13:55 #45630 by castor
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lfan wrote: Nice article on Melissa and Supergirl. Even nicer picture!

www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/12/sup...star-melissa-benoist


You know if that was on this page i would say "okay thats decentish not great photshop job, no shaddows or sence of gravity but good effort"

and this from s a major magazine, one of the major forces in american culture.

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12 Dec 2015 16:07 - 12 Dec 2015 16:28 #45632 by five_red
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castor wrote: You know if that was on this page i would say "okay thats decentish not great photshop job, no shaddows or sence of gravity but good effort"

and this from s a major magazine, one of the major forces in american culture.


As you say, there should be a shadow over the top of her head, and a very slight diffuse shadow on the ground. But there are two more fundamental problems.

(1) the car looks too small -- the front looks okay-ish, but it gets worse as your eye trails along the body of the car. This problem is because of... (2), the car is at the wrong angle. The car has been shot with an extreme perspective that lurches off towards the horizon -- but the horizon in the car's original photo would be way up in the sky, as it has been added to Melissa's photo. So you end up with a combined photo with two horizon vanishing points, distorting the car's proportions as your head tries to make sense of it all.

Also, it is bloody obvious that the car has been cut from a photo of it parked on the ground. The angle is exactly the kind of predictable angle a photographer -- also parked on the ground -- would use. If you want to do a photo like that, you either need to get hold of a car shot from an unusual angle, or strip the horizon from the picture altogether so the viewer has no frame of reference.

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The moral of the story is this, boys and girls... there's more to successful photo manipulation than knowing how to use Photoshop. It takes a lot of experimentation, and practice, and failure. If Vanity Fair had only dropped me an email, I probably would have done a proper job (or at least a better one) for them, for free..! :)

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Here's a better version of the pic. I had a lot of problem with Corrine's original photo because it was shot under yellowing interior lighting, on a grainy low-res smart phone. The motion blur is so extreme to hide the defects exposed as I corrected the image for daylight. But... you'll note how the downward tilt of the background photo disguises the fact that the car has been shot from a predictable (and very recognisable) photographer/car angle.

I'll admit this manip isn't my greatest. When you don't have control over the source material there are always compromises. In this case Corrine sent me some pics of her in various poses, and I tried to figure out imaginative ways of using them. In this example I went for a very 'comicbook' look, rather than a ultra-realistic look. So everything is slightly exaggerated (in the case of the motion blur, probably overly-so.)

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12 Dec 2015 17:40 #45635 by shadar
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Good Photoshop work, professional grade I mean, is a true art form. Astounding what the guys in advertising can do and how fast they can do it. I have a lot of the video tutorials and while I can follow along on some stuff and learn things, I'm in total awe of what the pros can do. And I've been tinkering with Photoshop for a very long time. I figure I'm a 2 on a scale of 10.

Over the years their have been some pretty good PS artists who contributed to our genre. Maybe 6 out of 10 kind of folks. If you are really good at it, you work professionally and that takes all your time. It's even harder to do action scenes with other objects.

Here's a decent photo-enhance of the "putting a model in costume variety";

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13 Dec 2015 21:11 #45646 by Woodclaw
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fats wrote: colson had a 1962 Chevrolet Corvette, that's a e-type Jaguar, looks like a MK.1.

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My ignorance about cars is about as diffuse as water.

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