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Supergirl 2x10

04 Feb 2017 18:10 #52387 by andyf
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I liked this episode a little more than the last. More action and the surprise twist with Livewire was a nice touch.

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04 Feb 2017 21:07 #52392 by kikass2014
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Hmm, this episode was better than the previous weeks, but I’m starting to get a bad vibe from this show.

The best way I can sum it up is that, the show no longer seems to be “Supergirl”.

There is too many characters, with their own little stories this season, and, imo, it is beginning to dilute the show.

You have:

- Guardian/Winn

- Alex/Maggie

- Jo’nn/Megan

…and of course now, Mon-El.

Like, what happened to Supergirl driving the show? All these characters should be supporting Kara’s narrative.

I don’t care about Guardian and his desire to be a hero.

I don’t care about Winn and his desire to find his balls.

I don’t care about the relationship between Alex and Maggie (on/off; on/off; etc.)

Or Jo’nn and his feelings for Meghan.

I sure as hell couldn’t care less about Mon-El.

Sure, these are characters that should have some depth and development, but I am getting the feeling they are dragging the show down.

To illustrate, I will make a comparison to another Arrow-verse show, The Flash.

The Flash is excellent imo (and I am enjoying it a hell of a lot more then Supergirl this season). It is “excellent” because the show revolves around…… The Flash!

All the characters support and revolve around Barry Allen. They have depth and development, but there is no denying that Barry is the hero and primary agent for the show.

With Supergirl, it’s like there is Kara, Jo’nn and Alex as the heroes. And that kinda worked in season 1, where Kara was learning the ropes in how to be a hero.

But this season, they seem to have doubled-down with Guardian, Winn and Mon-El also stepping into the frame. All vying for hero status.

Maybe I’m the only one that thinks this, I could be wrong.

But for now, I know what show I look forward to most every week.

And it isn’t Supergirl :(

Peace.

/K

P.S. Please pardon the spelling on some of their names.
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04 Feb 2017 21:36 #52393 by andyf
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You make a pretty good point about all the other characters getting so much attention at the expense of Kara. Maybe that's why we see Kara performing fewer and fewer superfeats and saving people in general. The producers and writers are too distracted by everyone else's storylines.

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05 Feb 2017 09:52 #52394 by Markiehoe
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kickass is spot on!

The show is called Supergirl

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05 Feb 2017 18:06 #52401 by shadar
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Markiehoe wrote: kickass is spot on!

The show is called Supergirl


They started building an overly large story space around Kara in Season 1. Filling it in with more and more characters. But at least in Season 1, the extra characters died or disappeared except for a small core. I was actually getting irritated with the "new villain who dies or disappears by episode end" thing.

I complained too soon.

CW has expanded that space further and filled it with recurring characters and multiple plot lines. Some of which are interesting, but they aren't SG focused The problem with that much character bloat is that it requires screen time to feed every character. So Kara gets less time and more of her time is 'human time' as opposed to Kryptonian.

I suppose CW knows their audience, but it obviously doesn't match our little group very well.

In contrast, Flash is still tightly focused around Barry and it works (even if I don't like the character much). That's how SG should work.

I wonder if this is a female thing. It's very common to build a male-centric show where everyone focuses on a dynamic male. But that doesn't work very well (these days anyway) for female leads. Plus Kara was never portrayed as powerful and dynamic -- even though she obviously can be at times. More than that, the whole Jimmy/Guardian/Winn thing is a terrible distraction and completely contrary to comic history. James is ludicrously ill-equipped to be the head of CatCo (one of the worst bits of casting I've ever seen), so they've turned him into a closet superhero. And now Winn is turning into a field agent. Totally wrong for his character. Rip that whole plot line out of the show and it might work.

The Mon'El thing is better, but still a distraction unless they position him eventually as a superpowered love interest for Kara. Given her muscles, I suppose she needs a 'man of steel' to ring her bells in at least one way. Or at least to survive her moments of rapture (fine muscle control during orgasm is an oxymoron). Not that they'll even do that right. Not on a PG show. (Even if CW suggested it a few times during Smallville -- earth tremors and all)

I think CW just feels it needs strong, dynamic male heroes to draw young, female viewers. They didn't want to use Kal El for obvious reasons (he'd swamp the show) and J'onzz isn't a heartthrob, so they have to develop James and Mon'El for those roles.

God forbid a woman has all the muscles. Even on a show named Supergirl.

Shadar
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05 Feb 2017 18:48 #52403 by Markiehoe
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I have been rewatching and enjoying Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman show.
There is no doubt in anyone's mind who is the star and driving force in that show.

In the first season it was a pretty well rounded cast with Diana/ Wonder Woman, Steve Trevor, General Blankenship and Etta Candy
Queen Hippolita, Drusilla and Andros dropped in to spice things up.

By the third season it was a one woman show with Steve Trevor jr promoted up and out of the action.

Wonder Woman was the Hero.
Lynda Carter was the star.
You could watch any episode at any time and be entertained.
No need for back story and no need to build up to the next episode.


and that was that.

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05 Feb 2017 20:31 #52408 by shadar
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Alas, those were simpler times, Markihoe, and the producers of the WW show were savvy regarding their audience at the time. That was 1975-1979, and Xers were just being born. Most of the audience would have been Boomers and the very first of the Xers.

It seems that CW has a very different view of their audience today, which has changed a lot over the years. Millennials and the youngest of the Xers are a very different kettle of fish. Supergirl as a show is pretty much a Millennial wet-dream.

But I'm a Boomer and despite my best efforts, I can't really think like a Millennial. I'd be much happier with a show closer to the old WW, but with better special effects and modern production values and more of a SF flavor. But that's not this show. Or CW's audience.

Clearly CBS was more focused on their older audience, which worked a bit better for me. I've already nostalgic for the first half of Season 1 and the initial impact of the show
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06 Feb 2017 00:00 #52412 by kikass2014
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I think CW just feels it needs strong, dynamic male heroes to draw young, female viewers. They didn't want to use Kal El for obvious reasons (he'd swamp the show) and J'onzz isn't a heartthrob, so they have to develop James and Mon'El for those roles.


Awesome, it's not just me that thinks this. This hits the nail right on the head.

And it is the reason I have lost interest in the show.

Pity really, as the first season was actually really good.

Ah well, plenty of other shows to watch (and I still have my copies of Lynda Carter WW around).

Peace.

/K

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06 Feb 2017 00:30 #52414 by ace191
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With the move to Canada, the loss of Mrs. Harrison Ford was both predictable and sad. She really added a lot to the show, both as a mean spirited boss and a kind in her own way mentor to Kara. No way Jimmy Olsen should be the boss. Snapper Carr would have been my choice. I would have preferred that he went out and took chances covering dangerous stories with or without wynn's help. And where are they getting the money for all their stuff? We know where Batman gets his.

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06 Feb 2017 01:09 #52415 by Markiehoe
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Jimmy is embezzling Catco funds!

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