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Updates on Annual Crossover

22 Aug 2018 21:10 - 22 Aug 2018 21:10 #60785 by murdough
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The date for this year's crossover, which will introduce Batwoman to the CW's Arrowverse has been set. Sunday December 9th(the Flash), Monday December 10th(Arrow), and Tuesday December 11th(Supergirl), with Supergirl and the Flash switching days for story purposes. Also, it's just been announced that Superman and Lois Lane will be appearing in all three episodes. Casting for Lois is scheduled to start "soon". Below is a link to EW.com with the news regarding Superman, as well as a piece of promo art that was recently released.

ew.com/tv/2018/08/22/arrowverse-crossover-superman-lois-lane/

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23 Aug 2018 00:31 - 23 Aug 2018 00:32 #60788 by shadar
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murdough wrote: The date for this year's crossover, which will introduce Batwoman to the CW's Arrowverse has been set. Sunday December 9th(the Flash), Monday December 10th(Arrow), and Tuesday December 11th(Supergirl), with Supergirl and the Flash switching days for story purposes. Also, it's just been announced that Superman and Lois Lane will be appearing in all three episodes. Casting for Lois is scheduled to start "soon". Below is a link to EW.com with the news regarding Superman, as well as a piece of promo art that was recently released.

ew.com/tv/2018/08/22/arrowverse-crossover-superman-lois-lane/


Including Superman in all episodes is great, because that implies he'll likely have more than a cameo role. I'd love it if he demonstrated some of what is at the core of his character -- compassion, humility and a strong sense of humanity.  The whole "never kill, no matter what" promise he's made. All things Kara knows, but struggles with sometimes. 

That, of course, will be distinctively different than Snyder's Superman, who was a little too "god-like" for my taste. 

If they do this, it might be good for both Supergirl TV, but also to further cement the changes in the public's eye that I suspect DC is going to make in Superman, post-Snyder. To basically make him more human. To show him full of kindness. 

Obviously, that's where I'd like to see him go in the Supergirl movie as well. To be a mentor in both the TV show and the movie.

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23 Aug 2018 02:08 #60793 by TwiceOnThursdays
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It looks like they might have a proper handle on Superman.  (And I hope they give Cavill a chance to do that Superman on screen. He'd be FANTASTIC.)

I love seeing Clark/Lois as a couple. I thought WW-Superman was "ok", but it never really worked for me.  Lois and Clark is where it's at.  I hope we see them as a strong loving couple.  Casting the right Lois to go with Superman is very vital.

Superman had become boring to me years ago.  But when they brought him back once again married to Lois and having a kid? Suddenly his stories seem much more interesting.  His humanity is what makes him a great character (his being Kryptonian only underscores his humanity).

I do wonder what they're going to do with the Batman shapped hole in the room.  Pretend he doesn't exist?  Do away with the "no batman" rule?  (It's their rule, that they made themselves, so they can change it at any time.)

Like Superman, Batman can overshadow things easily.

I also wonder why no Legends in the Crossover?  Easier to film?  All their actors do add a huge load onto the dynamic.  Sad because their previous crossovers were like a master class on how to balance all those elements AND move each shows plots forward.

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23 Aug 2018 03:04 - 23 Aug 2018 03:06 #60794 by murdough
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TwiceOnThursdays wrote:
I also wonder why no Legends in the Crossover?  Easier to film?  All their actors do add a huge load onto the dynamic.  Sad because their previous crossovers were like a master class on how to balance all those elements AND move each shows plots forward.


Basically they felt that Legends has become more of it's own thing separate from the rest of the Arrowverse in terms of overall tone. Beebo vs Mallus in the season finale comes to mind. Sure, there will still be ties to the rest of the Arrowverse, especially with the character of Sara Lance and her personal link to Arrow, but aside from that, they're likely going to keep some distance. Granted, the death of Quentin Lance in the Arrow finale will likely effect Sara's character arc, but I doubt it'll go beyond a guest spot or two on Arrow. Hell, this coming season, the Legends are going to be dealing with fantastical creatures and the like(dragons, unicorns, etc), amplified by John Constantine becoming a regular on the show. That alone would contrast heavily with the more grounded tone this year's crossover seems to be taking. Mood whiplash, to use the name of the trope.
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23 Aug 2018 03:10 #60795 by murdough
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Actual quote from the producers as to why the Legends are sitting out this year's crossover.

www.cbr.com/why-legends-tomorrow-isnt-pa...rrowverse-crossover/
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24 Aug 2018 00:23 #60807 by kikass2014
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Even before reading that article, and say the same as murdough said, the tone of the show now wouldn't really gel.

Legends embraces its goofiness and plays on it.  Supregirl, and The Flash in particular, can also be light-hearted and fun at times, but not nearly as laugh out loud funny as Legends (to me anyway).  The producer in the article even references the finale - Bebo vs Mullus.  I found that hillarious :D 

To have them crossover at this point would feel a bit, strange.  Thats not to say it can't be done, but mixing it up works better.  And having only 3 shows, allows for a tighter narrative, perhaps also more budget for each.

So this, to me, sounds like a good idea.

Just my thoughts :)

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