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Brad2 wrote: Probably trivial, but one wonders about the transformation details. How does she keep a long cape hidden under her disguise? Or does she simply grab it and put it on when she transforms? What does she do if the outfit isn't on or with her and she has to transform?
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YOU SHUT UP!!!!
SHUT UP RIGHT NOW!!!
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE LOGIC OF A SUPERHERO WEARING THERE COSTUMES UNDFER THE CLOTHES!!
I mean if you know a better way of having your costume ready..i would like to hear it. (scoffs)
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And of these cast members one (Wells) is a villain and one (Caitlin) will become a villain. Add to that at least 2 other villains that have learned his secret during Season 1 and you have the worst secret identity ever! Of course, being Flash, he could pull some Flashpoint/Time Travel mumbo jumbo and reset it. But the fact everyone knows doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the series as far as I'm concerned, so I'm kinda retreating a little bit on my critique of that fact in the Supergirl trailer.
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Brad2 wrote: Probably trivial, but one wonders about the transformation details. How does she keep a long cape hidden under her disguise? Or does she simply grab it and put it on when she transforms? What does she do if the outfit isn't on or with her and she has to transform?
I mean, I know it makes sense for her close friends and/or family to know her secret identity, but what about other workers? What about villains? Or the general public?
I pray to all the gods and goddesses of That Which Is NOT Stupid that by mid-season she's dumped the job. Not only because its a MONSTEROUS waste of her abilities, but because every minute she's there endangers her co-workers, any possibility of maintaining a secret identity, and by extension her family.
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Brad2 wrote: Probably trivial, but one wonders about the transformation details. How does she keep a long cape hidden under her disguise? Or does she simply grab it and put it on when she transforms? What does she do if the outfit isn't on or with her and she has to transform?
I mean, I know it makes sense for her close friends and/or family to know her secret identity, but what about other workers? What about villains? Or the general public?
I pray to all the gods and goddesses of That Which Is NOT Stupid that by mid-season she's dumped the job. Not only because its a MONSTEROUS waste of her abilities, but because every minute she's there endangers her co-workers, any possibility of maintaining a secret identity, and by extension her family.
I disagree. The job serves two purposes. First, she's working for a media conglomerate, giving her up to the second access on news that is happening and alerting her to crisises that are happening right then. Second, it helps keep Kara grounded as a person, having a normal life that she can fall back on to escape the demands of being 'on duty' 24/7. Check out the first issue of 'Astor City' to see what can happen when an uber-powerful character like Kara/Clark starts suffering from burnout over self-imposed responsibility.
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I can (and will) live with it. But I don't have to be thrilled about it .
Fortunately there's a good 40% chance I'll just stare at the costumes and special effects and shut off my brain for the larger part of an hour .
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- Oh... so now DC have come up with a SuperGIRL ?!? How original !! More politically correct nonsense !!
- What, she has friends and a social life ?!?? That's so girly !! Superheroes are supposed to be angry butt kickers 24 / 7; they aren't supposed to have (shudder!) friends !!
- The makers are bozos; have they even bothered to read all of the current DC books? This is totally outside official DC continuity !! What pocket universe is this in, huh... answer me that !? How is it even supposed to relate to the Dark Knight movies?
The people who like it seem to get that it owes more to the brighter, more uplifting, superhero shows and movies of 30+ years ago, than the darker, grittier, angrier, screen superheroes of recent years.
One guy complained that the whole thing was ruined for him because a four engine plane would never go down that fast after losing only two engines. Bizarrely he seems not to have noticed the woman flying unaided beneath the fuselage..!
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five_red wrote: One guy complained that the whole thing was ruined for him because a four engine plane would never go down that fast after losing only two engines. Bizarrely he seems not to have noticed the woman flying unaided beneath the fuselage..!
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That and the fact that the engines would not be on fire like that and the masks would not deploy and the fact that with 2 good engines the aircraft would be able to go transatlantic if needs be. I could go on for hours.
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this could be the series that we as a site have been wanting for years, I for one love the trailer, I got a preview of it a few days before the release, but that was a 10 min preview not the 6 that is online, I’m working to secure a preview copy of the pilot to do a review for the site, and before you ask no I will not post the preview file on the site.
Is the trailer perfect, no. Is it factually correct, no. what it is, is a entertaining look in to something that we have only seen in one second rate film and a ton of low budget material that is posted on the net. We have to keep that this is for the mainstream of the populous not for us uber geeks. November is fat too long for most of us to wait me included, lets be happy that it's happened and that we are getting it. My main fear is that some producers could go out of business because who is going to pay $12 for a 5 minute web vid when you will get a hour long show that has high production values.
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fats wrote: we are now at 6 million views for the 6 minute trailer.
Is the trailer perfect, no. Is it factually correct, no. what it is, is a entertaining look in to something that we have only seen in one second rate film and a ton of low budget material that is posted on the net. We have to keep that this is for the mainstream of the populous not for us uber geeks. November is fat too long for most of us to wait me included, lets be happy that it's happened and that we are getting it. My main fear is that some producers could go out of business because who is going to pay $12 for a 5 minute web vid when you will get a hour long show that has high production values.
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The way i look at it is...why sell 5 minute videos for 12 bucks to maybe 50 guys...when you 6 million people will watch a trailer like this.
The audience for this kinda stuff is bigger then you think.
i want to say supergirl.tv has something like 25,000 fans now on facebook.
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The best part (sarcastically) in the trailer: “I can’t fight crime in this! (Spandex).” ... oh, but a cheerleader-mini-skirt. Sure. That’ll do.
And yes, I write about half-to-nearly naked girls with superpowers who have sex a lot. I like my sexy superwomen sexy and carefree and my crime-fighting superwomen completely badass. I guess I like Smallville’s Supergirl more than this. At least she seemed tough and badass.
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And I have to say this - "WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER TO SEE THIS?"
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fats wrote:
five_red wrote: One guy complained that the whole thing was ruined for him because a four engine plane would never go down that fast after losing only two engines. Bizarrely he seems not to have noticed the woman flying unaided beneath the fuselage..!
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That and the fact that the engines would not be on fire like that and the masks would not deploy and the fact that with 2 good engines the aircraft would be able to go transatlantic if needs be. I could go on for hours.
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Agree... also the idea of lifting it with her hands on the outer skin was bad. She'd need to tear her way inside the central structure to find anything strong enough to exert that much pressure. Also everything about the pilots was hokey.
But.... But... BUT, Supergirl was carrying it, tilting it nearly 90 degrees to go through a bridge, scrubbing off one wingtip and gently splashing down in the water. Then climbing soaking wet onto the wing, looking totally elated. Screw reality... that was GREAT!
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enchantederotica wrote: Let me be in the minority and say that this trailer makes me pine for the Captain Marvel movie. Nothing against CBS, but DC is pretty crappy with their female characters. Marvel is no gem, but I am DYING for a strong, independent, CONFIDENT female superhero. I long for 80s-90s heroines like Xena, Ripley, and Sarah Conner. The only one IMO right now who is truly a badass female lead is Agents of Shield’s Melinda May. Marvel has a shot at doing a super-awesome, super-badass, non-babe super-woman who is confident with her powers and ready to beat the hell out of anyone in her path, and I hope they do it. Like Tasha Yar + Superman, that’s how I see Carol Danvers.
The best part (sarcastically) in the trailer: “I can’t fight crime in this! (Spandex).” ... oh, but a cheerleader-mini-skirt. Sure. That’ll do.
And yes, I write about half-to-nearly naked girls with superpowers who have sex a lot. I like my sexy superwomen sexy and carefree and my crime-fighting superwomen completely badass. I guess I like Smallville’s Supergirl more than this. At least she seemed tough and badass.
"Tasha Yar + Superman". That is a great description of Carol Danvers. I'd like to see her too. Ex-military, ex-intelligence agent, highly-intelligent and kick ass. Also sexy as hell when she meets a man who can keep up.
But for the moment, I'm going to enjoy a Glee-full cute Supergirl.
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d_k_c wrote: Anytime you read a comic book....Watch A Comic Book TV show....Or read a Story on SWM....Its always recommended to shut your brain off
The best of them don't slap me in the face with that fact .
I'll be the first to say something doesn't have to be perfect to be good (After all "the Perfect is the enemy of the good"). But It's also not wrong that I understand my own preferences. If I have to tune out half the show because it's boring as watching paint dry, I'll likely tune out the show entirely. And while I'm a tiny weird little corner-case demographic, I doubt I'll be entirely alone In that.
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ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.
Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.
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talk2sparky wrote:
ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.
Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.
And maybe the plane was sabotaged. The story does seem to involve Alexa working for a strange government agency that battles dangerous aliens, of which there appear to be many in this show. Whose to say that Alexa's plane wasn't sabotaged or disabled because she or someone else from her agency was on board?
What we do know at this point is that this Department of Extraterrestrial Affairs (if I got the name right) is going to be a the center of Supergirl's professional life. They'll be watching her, distrusting her at various levels, and she'll be working with them in various ways. But perhaps never in a cozy way. And Alexa will be in the middle of all that.
Given that several people know that Kara is Supergirl, how long before DOE leaders figure that out, along with the connection between Alexa and Kara/Supergirl? That could get complicated, especially for Alexa. Especially if she turns out to go a different direction than Supergirl when it comes to dealing with some alien force or whatever. And how badly is DOE infiltrated by other extraterrestrials anyway? etc. etc. Lots of room here for storytelling.
My point is that we'd never know in the trailer (and likely not in the pilot). Could there be conspiracies and plots and people so far unknown that involve the Danver sisters, and which we will see more of during the season?
If the show is going to be any good, then of course there are. Think of Agents of Shield and all the twists and turns in alliances and enemies. This likely won't be as twisted as that, but I'm betting we'll see plenty of that kind of thing.
Last point... ask yourself this question. If Supergirl showed up in our real world, how many different groups would attempt to control or influence or exploit her? To limit or expand her scope of operations. To use her or neutralize her, using the people around her when they can't get to her directly. There is an immense story-space here for the show's writer's to play with.
Lets not get hung up on a few images in the trailer. The writers have had (and will have) time to make things complicated and involved enough to be exciting and unpredictable.
I've still got my money on Alexa getting on the opposite side of a major issue with Kara during the first season, and after all, she does work for an agency whose sole purpose is to control or destroy aliens with powers. Like her adopted sister.
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talk2sparky wrote:
ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.
Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.
Going to make a prediction:
The plane crash factors into the plot of the episode such as it is with the aliens etc. either through accident or possible sabatouge
Though it may look like we have seen the entire plot of the first episode etc i am going to bet thats the case. That or it takes Seven Seasons for it all to come together.
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castor wrote:
talk2sparky wrote:
ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.
Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.
Going to make a prediction:
The plane crash factors into the plot of the episode such as it is with the aliens etc. either through accident or possible sabatouge
Though it may look like we have seen the entire plot of the first episode etc i am going to bet thats the case. That or it takes Seven Seasons for it all to come together.
Wow... you and I were posting more or less the same thing at the same time, Castor. I posted my comment and then read yours.
Great minds think alike. (Or we're afflicted with the same insanity.) <grin>
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shadar wrote:
castor wrote:
talk2sparky wrote:
ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.
Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.
Going to make a prediction:
The plane crash factors into the plot of the episode such as it is with the aliens etc. either through accident or possible sabatouge
Though it may look like we have seen the entire plot of the first episode etc i am going to bet thats the case. That or it takes Seven Seasons for it all to come together.
Wow... you and I were posting more or less the same thing at the same time, Castor. I posted my comment and then read yours.
Great minds think alike. (Or we're afflicted with the same insanity.) <grin>
Yeah though i suspect the plot maybe less complicated. i suspect some variation of either
1. Hey our alien ship is crashing and the effects aviation(somehow)
2. Or this goverment agent is on this plane. will you please make sure it never lands mr. lumberjack.
looking at the trailer we see a scene of kara and her sister getting ready for a date and her sister about to fly to geneva. next bit we see her sister on the plane and the date either presumbily over or very disapointed.
i am going to guess thats at least 5 minutes of screen time between them.
(also i am going to guess the plane crashes like 20 minutes into the episode, so those 2 minutes that people don't like-well you got time).
Do think your idea about conspiracy may have some merit. The creators like the complicated sci fi plot. No Ordinary Family in particuar went to some pretty dark places. Will see. But agian 22 episodes. As been pointed out her helper character will presumibly turn into toyman at somepoint(though i hope they push that out a bit)
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