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Rotten Tomatoes and Trolls

28 Feb 2019 14:24 #63008 by kikass2014
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Oh I totally understand what you are saying Starforge. Ofc we are all free to choose what we watch, etc.

In regards to the Rotten Tomatoes thing, I think you are right to a degree.

My view on it is, there are two sides here.  There are the SJW brigade, and I'm pretty sure we all understand what I mean by that term.  And then there is the rise of what I perceive as a recent phenomena - The Incel Brigade.

These people attack ANYTHING that puts a white male in a bad light, even if there is nothing truly to attack or comment on.  Just like the SJW promote and shout about diversity and what not.

They are not conservatives, right-wing or even the so-called "alt right" (though they get branded as such).  Just as I see the SJW as loonies, these new vocal "white male activists" are just as bad.  For the exact same reason. Their stance makes no sense.

The "attack" on Capt. Marvel was most likely from this camp.  Nothing more.  NO ONE except a select few have seen the movie.  This is different, imo, to the Last Jedi, where people HAD seen the film, and it was objectively bad (but that is a different discussion).

I could go into a long, and fairly detailed discussion on this and identity politics in general, as I am sure you can Starforge.  And I would love to have that discussion.  Maybe some day, over a beer :)

Now, should RT have responded by changing their policy and web site and removing the button?  To me, it doesn't make a difference. Objectively, I think they did the right thing.  

It created a metric that was meaningless and unfair to a movie - ANY movie.

Again, these are just my quick thoughts on the topic.

Peace.

/K

P.S. I'm no fan of Jane Fonda, I haven't really watched her films, never felt the urge too.  But I am curious about the military connection as to why you refuse to watch her films.  You don't have to answer ofc, just something that stood out to me is all.
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28 Feb 2019 15:27 #63009 by shadar
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Politics dominating the discussion again. SIGH. 

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28 Feb 2019 16:01 #63010 by conceptfan
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shadar wrote: Politics dominating the discussion again. SIGH. 

It'd be nice to be able to escape all that on a forum dedicated to the love of super-women.  Seems some people can't help but crowbar it in.  Shame.

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28 Feb 2019 17:54 #63012 by d_k_c
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So the theme is Rotten Tomatoes and Trolls. As soon as we explore what is happening with Rotten Tomatoes, and the trolls the topic wishes to discuss, we can't help but talk about the politics, because it's the central theme.

For instance, if I was to start a thread, that read 'SJW's angry that Marvel is white' You should have enough common sense to know that there will be a political component. And if you're a sensitive snow flake, do everyone a favour and don't click on it.

That being said, we have to realize that members aren't crowbarring politics into SWM, Politics is crowbarring it's way into SWM and every other aspect of life. Which is very concerning. It seems You can't discuss any superhero these days without addressing the political leanings of the creator.

Whatever happened to the good ol days of t&a big explosions and big guns....And mind dumbing nonsense. That's why my stories are so important right now....In that....You'll be dumber after reading them =)

And why the hate to RT? Listen, if you follow the news, you have to follow RT. Every organization is biased, the only way to be informed is to get your news from every source. 
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28 Feb 2019 18:07 #63013 by shadar
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d_k_c wrote:
Whatever happened to the good ol days of t&a big explosions and big guns....And mind dumbing nonsense. That's why my stories are so important right now....In that....You'll be dumber after reading them =)


I wouldn't say dumber, but rather "delightfully diverted."  Very healthy.  <grin>

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28 Feb 2019 18:15 #63014 by fats
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28 Feb 2019 22:19 #63016 by kikass2014
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To be fair, I don't think anyone in this topic has said they trust the Rotten Tomatoes score. Or even uses it when deciding what movie to watch.

I understood the topic to be about why RT changed their web site and removed a feature that had been there, I think, since the beginning.

Unfortunately, the reason they did has political aspect to it.

That's why politics entered the discussion.

Nothing more.

Peace.

/K
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01 Mar 2019 03:15 #63022 by Markiehoe
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shadar wrote:

d_k_c wrote:
Whatever happened to the good ol days of t&a big explosions and big guns....And mind dumbing nonsense. That's why my stories are so important right now....In that....You'll be dumber after reading them =)


I wouldn't say dumber, but rather "delightfully diverted."  Very healthy.  <grin>

Shadar



BLACK SCORPION is on Amazon Prime right now.

I enjoyed every episode and am seriously thinking of a rewatch.
This time I'll fast forward through the repetitive car chases.

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01 Mar 2019 03:19 #63023 by Markiehoe
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Rotten Tomatoes is a completely irrelevant website now.
Bought, paid for and in Lock Step with the powers that be.

Grace Randolph, who has been featured here in her Beyond the Trailer videos and who relies heavily on Rotten Tomatoes for content analysis , has been strangely silent about this kerfluffle.
I think she has just cut them loose and moved on.

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02 Mar 2019 06:06 #63036 by Starforge
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kikass2014 wrote: P.S. I'm no fan of Jane Fonda, I haven't really watched her films, never felt the urge too.  But I am curious about the military connection as to why you refuse to watch her films.  You don't have to answer ofc, just something that stood out to me is all.


Google Hanoi Jane.  I have no problem with people who protested the Vietnam war - but what she did was IMO above and beyond.  Just my opinion of course - ymmv.

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02 Mar 2019 07:26 #63037 by Starforge
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kikass2014 wrote: To be fair, I don't think anyone in this topic has said they trust the Rotten Tomatoes score. Or even uses it when deciding what movie to watch.

I understood the topic to be about why RT changed their web site and removed a feature that had been there, I think, since the beginning.

Unfortunately, the reason they did has political aspect to it.

That's why politics entered the discussion.

Nothing more.

Peace.

/K


I would agree with this though I do use it as a place to check reviews and generally use audience score to gauge whether it's worth a drive or not for a movie I'm already inclined to see.

My 'trust' for the site wasn't overly high in the first place coupled with the fact that even the audience rating is not real - they throw out any ratings of 1 or less (maybe .5 - I forget) but that alone skews the data higher than it should be.

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