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Blade Runner 2049 Hologram

08 Oct 2017 23:04 #56510 by jasminevancroft
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For those like me who like powers outside of muscle and laser eyes, Blade Runner 2049 has a hot hologram girl who pops up a lot and shows off her intangibility / ability to change her wardrobe/appearance instantly.

Was enjoyable.
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09 Oct 2017 00:22 #56511 by fats
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Second best blade runner film, the best is, of course, the director cut.

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09 Oct 2017 08:51 #56513 by Woodclaw
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fats wrote: Second best blade runner film, the best is, of course, the director cut.

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Not the Final Cut?
I only ever watched the Director's Cut, so I have no idea what are the differences with the Final Cut.

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10 Oct 2017 20:19 #56534 by hdmk2
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Her character is called "Joi" and the actress is Ana de Armas.
Here's a few photos.

Great film too!

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15 Oct 2017 18:22 #56578 by AuGoose
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While it's visually spectacular, I didn't enjoy it much.

Honestly, there were no stakes. It's a giant pile of 'so what?'. The 'case' is a farce from the word go ("hey, happy slave, go make sure none of the other slaves get uppity"). The pacing is sluggish, egregiously so at times (I do NOT need to spend 5+ minutes/an eternity sitting in my chair going 'yes, this is literally a walk down memory lane. Get to the point already...'). I also don't really care if the obligatory weirdo uber-CEO wins. Probably because I couldn't bring myself to buy-in that making replicants that could procreate was ever going to be challenging: they started from humans and worked backward! Someone had to work to block that functionality... Oh, and I also don't believe the richest man in the universe has to put people on an interstellar transport before he can black site interrogate them. Or that when he sends an ENTIRE CONVOY of vehicles to move an important package it can be casually swatted from the sky by one cop car. That's not even idiot ball. It's just dramatic nonsense.

Our protagonist is designed to be dull... and succeeds magnificently. So much so, in fact, he doesn't become interesting until fully 4/5ths of the way in (after what I think was the 6th total mindfuck). I feel like this should be a lesson learned from Amazing Spider-Man 2 and the 'woe is me I'm so forgettable Electro' character. Come on Hollywood: making an audience not care is EASY. So much so, apathy should probably never be your objective.

Oh, and sorry, the 'replicant revolution' doesn't get automatically anointed with the divine mandate of good guy-ness. Yes, you folks are being crapped on by civilization, granted. But I'm unconvinced that the humans we're seeing are exactly living the good life either. Meanwhile, the actual architects of your suffering are in about zero danger from your little uprising. Because oh, that's right, the history of the setting tells us the larger mass of humanity has already crushed exactly this sort of rebellion over and over again. Nothing new under this total lack of Sun.

I also felt like the world-building was haphazard or just plain lazy. You propose that all of digital civilization ends one afternoon (the "blackout") for no other purpose than to make an investigation sequence drag out? Huh? You unleash a literal apocalypse and all it does for the story is give you about three throwaway lines? Or 'Hey, Las Vegas is the most radioactive place in the world!' ...except it's not and no one will even say the city's name. Seriously, stuff like that doesn't come free. You kinda need to say SOMETHING about how things like that come to pass. Heck you could've kill two birds with one stone and say Vegas was irradiated in the last revolution - scenario explained and stakes established in regards to there being another revolution. Nope.

I also have to say, "no, the music is not good." This isn't even in comparison to its predecessor. There are some highlights, but there's also a bunch just grinding static for the sake of filling otherwise dead scenes. Evidently, the final fight scene just needed to have the theater speakers growling the entire time to make up for the devastatingly mundane fight choreography. Because super-strong bio-thugs having it out has to be as dull and soulless as the combatants.

Probably the highlight of the whole thing for me, as an exercise in speculative fiction, was an AI hiring a replicant as a meat-peripheral. That made me chuckle.

At the end of the day, I'm feeling more and more like Ridley Scott has seriously lost his touch. It's not the festering mess that two latest Alien movies have delivered, but it's not good either.

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15 Oct 2017 18:41 #56579 by shadar
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AuGoose wrote: While it's visually spectacular, I didn't enjoy it much.

Honestly, there were no stakes. It's a giant pile of 'so what?'. The 'case' is a farce from the word go ("hey, happy slave, go make sure none of the other slaves get uppity"). The pacing is sluggish, egregiously so at times (I do NOT need to spend 5+ minutes/an eternity sitting in my chair going 'yes, this is literally a walk down memory lane. Get to the point already...'). I also don't really care if the obligatory weirdo uber-CEO wins. Probably because I couldn't bring myself to buy-in that making replicants that could procreate was ever going to be challenging: they started from humans and worked backward! Someone had to work to block that functionality... Oh, and I also don't believe the richest man in the universe has to put people on an interstellar transport before he can black site interrogate them. Or that when he sends an ENTIRE CONVOY of vehicles to move an important package it can be casually swatted from the sky by one cop car. That's not even idiot ball. It's just dramatic nonsense.

Our protagonist is designed to be dull... and succeeds magnificently. So much so, in fact, he doesn't become interesting until fully 4/5ths of the way in (after what I think was the 6th total mindfuck). I feel like this should be a lesson learned from Amazing Spider-Man 2 and the 'woe is me I'm so forgettable Electro' character. Come on Hollywood: making an audience not care is EASY. So much so, apathy should probably never be your objective.

Oh, and sorry, the 'replicant revolution' doesn't get automatically anointed with the divine mandate of good guy-ness. Yes, you folks are being crapped on by civilization, granted. But I'm unconvinced that the humans we're seeing are exactly living the good life either. Meanwhile, the actual architects of your suffering are in about zero danger from your little uprising. Because oh, that's right, the history of the setting tells us the larger mass of humanity has already crushed exactly this sort of rebellion over and over again. Nothing new under this total lack of Sun.

I also felt like the world-building was haphazard or just plain lazy. You propose that all of digital civilization ends one afternoon (the "blackout") for no other purpose than to make an investigation sequence drag out? Huh? You unleash a literal apocalypse and all it does for the story is give you about three throwaway lines? Or 'Hey, Las Vegas is the most radioactive place in the world!' ...except it's not and no one will even say the city's name. Seriously, stuff like that doesn't come free. You kinda need to say SOMETHING about how things like that come to pass. Heck you could've kill two birds with one stone and say Vegas was irradiated in the last revolution - scenario explained and stakes established in regards to there being another revolution. Nope.

I also have to say, "no, the music is not good." This isn't even in comparison to its predecessor. There are some highlights, but there's also a bunch just grinding static for the sake of filling otherwise dead scenes. Evidently, the final fight scene just needed to have the theater speakers growling the entire time to make up for the devastatingly mundane fight choreography. Because super-strong bio-thugs having it out has to be as dull and soulless as the combatants.

Probably the highlight of the whole thing for me, as an exercise in speculative fiction, was an AI hiring a replicant as a meat-peripheral. That made me chuckle.

At the end of the day, I'm feeling more and more like Ridley Scott has seriously lost his touch. It's not the festering mess that two latest Alien movies have delivered, but it's not good either.


Haven't seen it yet, so I can't comment on much of what you say. But it's clear to most people that Ridley Scott's best movies are in his past.

It's not worth going to a public theater to see, but I'll still rent or stream it eventually for my home theater. What I'm hearing, however, is enough to convince me that I'll need a lot of the right kind of herb to truly enjoy it. Such herb is the salvation for many bad SF movies.
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