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Battle Angel Alita

08 Dec 2017 20:00 #57576 by lfan
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Gotta say I wasn't too excited for this one, but the trailer looks interesting and has a great cast. The digital tweeking of her eyes is freaky and a cool homage to her manga roots:



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08 Dec 2017 20:18 #57577 by Akane
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Manga and anime doesn't usually adapt well to live action, it doesn't look too good and I'm sad James Cameron let Robert Rodriguez direct instead of doing it himself like he promised.

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08 Dec 2017 20:25 #57578 by Markiehoe
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Do you think they will be hammered for "whitewashing" in this movie like Ghost in the Shell was?

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08 Dec 2017 22:05 - 08 Dec 2017 22:06 #57579 by kikass2014
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One thing I will say about the film is, that is a friking STELLAR cast they have assembled :) THREE academy award winners in a sci-fi/anime film :blink: Can't think of many, if any, times that has happened :D

Apart from that, I honestly don't know what to make of this film yet. It looks decent I guess. I do agree with Akane, manga and anime don't usually work when crossing media.

Ghost in the Shell was ok-ish imo, but not a patch on the anime original. And that whole thing about the white-washing of ScarJo was just overblown virtue signalling from plebs. When the CREATOR of Motoko Kusanagi says he is FINE with it, and has no problem with it (even going so far as explain that it is perfectly plausible), then yeah, there is no problem with it.

But back to Alita. Like pretty much everyone else has said, there is something with those eyes. I mean, I get the design choice for it. But does it actually add more to the film then take away? It certainly is distracting tbh.

Rodriguez is a fine director imo, and has great visual flair, so I'm pretty confident it will look great.

Other then that, I putting this on a wait and see shelf.

Not overly hyped for it yet, but not disappointed by any means.

Peace.

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09 Dec 2017 03:15 #57584 by ChaozCloud
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I agree on the eyes part. It looks weird and out of place. I rather they didn't do it. Or do a full CGI movie and do it like that.

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13 Dec 2017 02:34 #57683 by steelknight3000
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Don't like it, looks creepy!

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13 Dec 2017 11:11 #57693 by Markiehoe
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In the 1950's Battle Angel would have been handled much differently.
Most likely the cyborg would have been a man and the girl would have stood by him.
So we are really not treading any new ground here.

The Shape of Water is getting some notice

A reversal on the Creature from the Black Lagoon.
One of my favorite movies of all time!
It is being treated as a Fresh idea.
However Beauty and the Beast is one of the first stories I remember.
It really is hard to come up with something new and different.

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13 Dec 2017 12:13 #57697 by Woodclaw
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Markiehoe wrote: In the 1950's Battle Angel would have been handled much differently.
Most likely the cyborg would have been a man and the girl would have stood by him.
So we are really not treading any new ground here.

The Shape of Water is getting some notice


A reversal on the Creature from the Black Lagoon.
One of my favorite movies of all time!
It is being treated as a Fresh idea.
However Beauty and the Beast is one of the first stories I remember.
It really is hard to come up with something new and different.


Well, in Japan there's a pretty significant tradition of monstrous women, sometimes I wonder if it's a reflection of an ancient cultural taboo.
As far as manga and pop culture go, I think that the proliferation of female cyborgs comes from two source: Molly, the razor girl from William Gibson's Sprawl Trilogy, and MAjor Motoko Kusanagi in Masamune Shirow's Ghost in the Shell. Gibson is arguably the father of the entire cyberpunk narrative and his early novels have a long-lasting impact. Shirow's work was the first contact with the cyberpunk narrative for many Japanese readers and it helped shaping the idea of the basass woman-monster.

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13 Dec 2017 16:11 #57703 by kikass2014
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Molly, the razor girl from William Gibson's Sprawl Trilogy


Oh man, that brings back memories. I remember reading Neuromancer way back when.

Thanks for reminding me to dig out my copy and read it again :) Been a while :)

Peace.

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