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Mary Batson and Mary Marvel in Shazam?

28 Apr 2018 17:39 - 28 Apr 2018 18:01 #59300 by andyf
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Grace Fulton has been confermed to be playing Mary Matson in the upcoming Shazam film. It's now rumored that Michelle North has been cast as her adult alter ego Mary Marvel.
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28 Apr 2018 22:20 #59305 by jmg88
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that's excellent news Mary Marvel is so hot
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29 Apr 2018 03:43 #59313 by algae2k
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North or Borth?

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29 Apr 2018 11:45 #59317 by rednecko
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I don't think we see the Captain Marvel family until a sequel. They want to keep it basic for the first film and see if it does well before they put more effects money. I kind of hope I love because Mary marvel is so badass.

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29 Apr 2018 17:09 #59321 by Woodclaw
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rednecko wrote: I don't think we see the Captain Marvel family until a sequel. They want to keep it basic for the first film and see if it does well before they put more effects money. I kind of hope I love because Mary marvel is so badass.


Apparently the movie seem to be based on the "Curse of Shazam" storyline, the one that introduced Cap in the New-52 universe. Given that Mary played a pretty significant role in that comic things might shape up differently.

(granted Mary was perhaps the only decent part of that story-line that pretty much character-raped both Billy and Freddie)

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29 Apr 2018 21:11 #59322 by thedoc9
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I remember when I read the story that revealed that when Mary and Billy both use the power at the same time, their respective strength is cut in half. This seemed to be a really nice way of introducing a “weakness/vulnerability” to the heroes. I’d love to see the movie exploit this concept in some way.

Like many folks here, I suspect, my interest in the Shazam movie ramps up greatly with Mary’s presence.
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01 May 2018 23:21 #59343 by shevek
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thedoc9 - You're damn right it does!

However, I'm not seeing anything yet about Michelle Borth on the film's Wikipedia page, nor a list of the Mary Marvel on Michelle's own Wikipedia page either.

But if indeed the Mary Bromfield/Batson character will consist of Grace Fulton as the teenage/geeky secret identity and Michelle Borth as the shapely adult heroine filling in a gorgeous Mary Marvel costume, count me in 100% for that transformation scene!!

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02 May 2018 13:58 #59353 by Agent00Soul
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I figured that they might introduce Mary Batson in the first movie and power her up to Mary Marvel in the second if it's a hit.

And if they are going to do the same thing as Billy - teenager to adult - that would be great. That's definitely my favorite interpretation of the character.

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25 Mar 2019 02:54 - 25 Mar 2019 03:00 #63389 by murdough
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25 Mar 2019 07:46 #63391 by shadar
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Mary Marvel in all her glory...



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29 Mar 2019 04:07 #63460 by algae2k
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andyf wrote: Grace Fulton has been confermed (sic) to be playing Mary atson in the upcoming Shazam film. It's now rumored that Michelle North has been cast as her adult alter ego Mary Marvel.


Interesting tidbit:  The actress for the adult alter ego (Michelle Borth @ 5'6"... 168cm) is an inch shorter that Grace Fulton (5'7"... 170cm)..

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29 Mar 2019 08:29 #63463 by fats
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The real Grace Fulton



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29 Mar 2019 13:15 - 29 Mar 2019 13:34 #63466 by shadar
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The casting choices are interesting. 

Michelle North is starring in the series Hanna that starts today on Amazon. She’s very young but atletic and playing a superhumanly trained weapon in Hanna. (Which might be interesting in its own right.). Can’t find her age on Google given she’s an unknown, but the trailer below will give you some clues. Teens for sure.  Based on the trailer, she’ll make an awesome Mary Marvel. She does action well. She’s kick ass.

Grace Fulton is a dancer who is 22. She plays Mary Batson. 

But in the comics, Mary Batson appears to be much younger than Mary Marvel. The casting looks backwards. Maybe they can make Grace look very young and frail like Mary Batson is supposed to be. 

And make Michelle North look ultra powerful, which will be easy.

This Hanna trailer makes it clear that Michelle North was born to the role. Using trees for punching bags?

Here’s the short Superbowl ad:

https://youtu.be/DhPJIQ_kovg

Full trailer

https://youtu.be/v75RmNuZgTs

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29 Mar 2019 13:23 #63467 by Woodclaw
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shadar wrote: The casting choices are interesting. 

Michelle North is starring in the series Hanna that starts today on Amazon. She’s very young but atletic and playing a superhumanly trained weapon in Hanna. (Which might be interesting in its own right.). Can’t find her age on Google given she’s an unknown, but the trailer below will give you some clues. Teens for sure.  Based on the trailer, she’ll make an awesome Mary Marvel. She does action well. She’s kick ass.

Grace Fulton is a dancer who is 22. She plays Mary Batson. 

But in the comics, Mary Batson appears to be much younger than Mary Marvel. The casting looks backwards. Maybe they can make Grace look very young and frail like Mary Batson is supposed to be. 

And make Michelle North look ultra powerful, which will be easy.

This Hanna trailer makes it clear that Michelle North was born to the role. Using trees for punching bags?

https://youtu.be/v75RmNuZgTs

Shadar


It depends on which version of Mary are you considering.

This movie seems to be mostly based on Geoff Jones's Curse of Shazam storyline, where Mary was much older than Billy and they were not related. Curse Mary was the "Wendy Darling" of the Broomsfield family and the only biological daughter of Mr and Mrs Broomsfield, whereas all the other siblings (including Billy and Freddy) were adopted. When she got powered up in the climatic battle at the end of the story she's the only one to keep a relatively unchanged appearence, aging only slightly, while most of her siblings went from pre-teen to adolescent or adults.

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29 Mar 2019 16:12 #63470 by jdrock24
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29 Mar 2019 16:26 #63473 by Random321
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shadar wrote: The casting choices are interesting. Shadar


They might be thinking long term too ~ how will each age into the roles if they become sequel/spinoff worthy.  Then again, maybe I'm giving too much credit to the long term thinking of Hollywood?

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29 Mar 2019 16:33 - 29 Mar 2019 16:35 #63474 by Agent00Soul
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Woodclaw wrote: This movie seems to be mostly based on Geoff Jones's Curse of Shazam storyline, where Mary was much older than Billy and they were not related. Curse Mary was the "Wendy Darling" of the Broomsfield family and the only biological daughter of Mr and Mrs Broomsfield, whereas all the other siblings (including Billy and Freddy) were adopted. When she got powered up in the climatic battle at the end of the story she's the only one to keep a relatively unchanged appearence, aging only slightly, while most of her siblings went from pre-teen to adolescent or adults.


I don't entirely agree with this.  While "Curse" Mary is indeed the oldest of the orphans and the one who changes the least when she transforms, she is hardly relatively unchanged.  She ages quite a bit.

It looks like she goes from a 14 or 15 year old:



To someone 23 or 24 years old:



I haven't seen her in the trailer yet, but we can get q good idea of her appearance in the movie from the action figure:



Either way, I am glad they are using the cool new extended Shazam family for the finale.

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29 Mar 2019 16:36 #63475 by shadar
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Hmmm... doesn't sound nearly as interesting now as I'd hoped.

I was thinking comic book Mary Marvel from the 70's and 80's, which portrayed her as a Supergirl-grade character who transformed between a tall, built, 20ish costumed superwoman and a  rather frail early teens girl. They were showing a ten (probably more) age difference between her two identities. 

That opened up some comedic elements as well as some themes of changing one's age from innocent to mature that had to be delicately handled for a G-rated comic. 

Just shows how much characters change over the decades. 

I think I'll sit on the sidelines on this one until I see how it develops. Hopes high but expectations low. 

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29 Mar 2019 16:53 #63477 by Agent00Soul
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shadar wrote: I was thinking comic book Mary Marvel from the 70's and 80's, which portrayed her as a Supergirl-grade character who transformed between a tall, built, 20ish costumed superwoman and a  rather frail early teens girl. They were showing a ten (probably more) age difference between her two identities. 

That opened up some comedic elements as well as some themes of changing one's age from innocent to mature that had to be delicately handled for a G-rated comic. 


It's possible that with television's Supergirl so well-established at this point, the producers of the movie didn't want to be accused of simply doing a brunette Kara, which is basically what Mary Marvel was in the 70s and 80s.  DC even used this as a plot device: they teamed up and/or were rivals many times in the comics during those years.  Hence her look in the film and why they concentrate more on Darla.

Even with the main character, the original Cap was so similar to Superman that DC basically sued Fawcett out of business.  To avoid confusion this time, I'm guessing, they made Zazhary Levi's costume much more exaggeratedly big and muscular - more like a comic book - than Henry Cavill's Superman outfit.

I have high hopes for Levi by the way - he was very funny in The Marvellous Mrs. Maisel.
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29 Mar 2019 18:33 #63480 by Woodclaw
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Agent00Soul wrote:

Woodclaw wrote: This movie seems to be mostly based on Geoff Jones's Curse of Shazam storyline, where Mary was much older than Billy and they were not related. Curse Mary was the "Wendy Darling" of the Broomsfield family and the only biological daughter of Mr and Mrs Broomsfield, whereas all the other siblings (including Billy and Freddy) were adopted. When she got powered up in the climatic battle at the end of the story she's the only one to keep a relatively unchanged appearence, aging only slightly, while most of her siblings went from pre-teen to adolescent or adults.


I don't entirely agree with this.  While "Curse" Mary is indeed the oldest of the orphans and the one who changes the least when she transforms, she is hardly relatively unchanged.  She ages quite a bit.

It looks like she goes from a 14 or 15 year old:



To someone 23 or 24 years old:

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All true, for some reason in other pictures she looked much older, especially when she scolded Billy.

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