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Ruby Rose Leaves Batwoman

07 Jun 2020 10:20 #68273 by Woodclaw
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clipfreak wrote: There i a simple solution to this whole thing.

Have some situation where her body is transformed by magic/science/reality manipulation or whatever. And at the end of the episode reveal it can't be undone :)

She'd still be gay and all story lines can continue as normal.

This assuming Ruby is willing to do a couple of scenes to set it all up, but even without it could work.


The easiest and least science fiction one would be to reveal her secret identity and force her to undergo a full plastic surgery in order to get a new identity.

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07 Jun 2020 19:58 #68277 by jimbob
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Well it's confirmed. Seems they wanted to avoid "confusion" with the recast. Which is ridiculous. More like Berlanti wanted to make a second attempt to grab the audience that wasn't interested in it the first go around and could care less about how that effects everything else.

So I'm done. I was actually liking where it was going but that's all irrelevant now because without Kate it can't be followed up on. This is stupidity at it's finest. I hope it bombs and season 2 is there last.

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07 Jun 2020 20:49 #68279 by fats

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07 Jun 2020 21:58 #68280 by shadar
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jimbob wrote: Well it's confirmed. Seems they wanted to avoid "confusion" with the recast. Which is ridiculous. More like Berlanti wanted to make a second attempt to grab the audience that wasn't interested in it the first go around and could care less about how that effects everything else.

So I'm done. I was actually liking where it was going but that's all irrelevant now because without Kate it can't be followed up on. This is stupidity at it's finest. I hope it bombs and season 2 is there last.


I never wish for any comics-derived superheroine show to bomb or get cancelled. We had FAR too long of a dry period on TV to wish any show ill. 

But clearly this will be a new show with a less intimate connection to New52 comics. Might be better. 

Keeping an open mind applies here, as it does with every aspect of life. Change is the only constant. Greg Berlanti is not an idiot, even if I don’t always agree with him.

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07 Jun 2020 23:25 #68281 by clipfreak
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Maybe they can make it a thing, a new batwoman each season :)

Haven't seen the series yet so I'm not really invested in the characters yet.

I'm waiting on the bluray to watch it, but the general chatter seems quite negative. So now i/m wondering if it's worth the 20 euro i usually end up paying for dc series.

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07 Jun 2020 23:35 #68283 by kikass2014
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I'm waiting on the bluray to watch it, but the general chatter seems quite negative. So now i/m wondering if it's worth the 20 euro i usually end up paying for dc series.


Ultimately thats your decision to make.

If you want my opinion (which I have made no secret of) its - Save your money.  The show is stupid and utter trash on every level.

Peace.

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08 Jun 2020 02:33 #68288 by TwiceOnThursdays
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clipfreak wrote: There i a simple solution to this whole thing.

Have some situation where her body is transformed by magic/science/reality manipulation or whatever. And at the end of the episode reveal it can't be undone :)

She'd still be gay and all story lines can continue as normal.

This assuming Ruby is willing to do a couple of scenes to set it all up, but even without it could work.


Comics have a half-trillion ways to do this along with your methods, a brain/soul swap, switching with a dimensional analog (who looks different but is "mostly the same person"), or as you said, just straight-up reality alteration ....You could just start an episode with a mini-crisis aftershock that alters some things.. one of which is the new actress is now Batwoman/Kane w/ some personality changes (So the actress doesn't have to try act like Ruby's version).  For fun, you could include it in other shows and use it to make minor changes that the writers might want to make.  Some of those changes could even revert ... which gives you free rein to have absolute fun for an episode.

And if the Legends meet the new Batwoman they can go "who is this?"

Since Batwoman was a "Paragon" it would sort of make sense that she might be a target for some of the energy bounding around.

I do wonder if Ruby Rose would come back for a scene -- but even so you don't NEED her. 

Or You can use the Fresh Prince Aunt Viv method, just replace her.  Then have a character make a comment "did you change your hair?"

(or Roseanne w/ Becky, etc. etc.)

This is probably easier to do in a Comedy ... and neither was the lead.

I do think that sometimes writer rooms try to think too much ... .OTH the show wasn't working so this is an effort to go to v2.  It just seems hokier than relying on comic tropes to swap the actress and making the changes you want to make, but keep them to tweaking Kane's personality and some of her backstory.

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08 Jul 2020 23:49 #68589 by murdough

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09 Jul 2020 00:25 #68590 by kikass2014
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Wow. Doubled down on those virtue points.  Black and gay.

Good job CW, you never let us down lol :D

Peace.

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09 Jul 2020 11:27 #68595 by BodyByBane
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variety.com/2020/tv/news/batwoman-javici...51/#article-comments

could've atleast given us a female Bane warlord type snapping Rubys tiny back,...
{sigh}
but seriously a move forward without the star character because you can't have a lead actress from the 1st season is the main reason why I hate Greg Berlanti being in this industry setting up arrowverse/DC properties

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09 Jul 2020 13:51 #68598 by Markiehoe
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Both 1960s Mission Impossible and the 1990s Babylon 5 had successful runs after replacing their lead characters.
This might not be such a bad thing.

Personally I can't stand the backstory given here.
I would much rather see a good girl take up the BatWoman mantle.

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26 Oct 2020 19:42 #69589 by murdough
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For risk of reviving a dead thread, but the CW has released the first official images of Javicia Leslie in the batsuit. For the most part, it's the same as Ruby's, aside from some cosmetic changes, as well as restoring the neck covering.

 

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03 Nov 2020 03:46 #69650 by murdough
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Behind the scenes shot of Javicia in costume sans cowl and wig. It also shows the material of the suit in more natural lighting, as well as showing the new suit's boots.

 

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03 Nov 2020 03:50 #69651 by murdough
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And her version of the Batmobile

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