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Naughty or Nice?
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The most fascinating part of life is conversing with people who don't believe what we believe. Who see things in a completely different light. The most boring thing on Earth is to talk with someone who agrees with me on most things.
The only sin is when someone's beliefs and opinions are not well considered (as in, the ideas were accepted without their personally challenging them). Which is my beef with many religious fundamentalists of all faiths.
So back on topic, chaos or order, entropy or divine intervention to prevent entropy, its all fascinating. If you allow for the possibility of spirituality, then physical laws don't completely describe the universe or people's behavior.
In essence, that's the real fork in the philosophical road. You can take a few steps forward with a foot on each road, but as they diverge, it starts to hurt pretty fast.
Road One: If god exists, then physical laws are limited and changeable and the human soul is nth dimensional and impossible to fully define. Road Two: If he doesn't, then everything ultimately has a mathematical expression per existing physical laws, albeit an arbitrarily complex one.
The ever diverging landscape that exists between those two roads is full of briars and other sticky subjects. I say, pick one of the two paths and don't wander through the briar patches. Either road can be very interesting to travel on, they both have many smaller forks and they all go a very long way over the horizon, so you'll never get bored as long as you keep your brain engaged.
But don't forget which original fork in the road you took.
Personally, I took the fork that said god doesn't exist. Many of my favorite people took the other fork. We talk about hidden pathways that may exist through the briar patch that seperates the roads, which is interesting stuff. It's fun to wander through the wilderness, even to get lost for a while. But I always know when my feet return to the paved road.
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Here it's starting to look like "Faith Fight!"
As for Order vs. Chaos, I'll say only that much if not most of the chaos in human history stems from people trying to impose some arbitrary kind of "order." Wars started as just organized plunder, but nowadays the only people who profit from wars are corrupt military contractors. Certainly nobody else is making big bucks in Iraq. But the Bush administration, the Shiites and the Sunnis are all for Order, no matter how much they are in fact creating Chaos.
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If you want to actually take me seriously you're going to need a Bible with a good concordinance, or a restraining order, or both.
Preferably both.
Until then, if religion doesn't make you break out in uncontrollable giggles, I don't think you've ever really met the True God.
And yeah, physics is hilarious too. Don't you get it?
But the biggest joke of all is just plain human behavior. It's absolutely ridiculous. How can it NOT be related governed by both one's beliefs and physics?
Just don't get caught in any punchlines. Gravity's a real downer.
Say cheese.
Cheers by faith,
-Paw.
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For that matter, I don't even see how WhitePaw's original post contradicted anyone's religious beliefs. If you believe in any god, then WhitePaw seems to be saying that the Earth is a closed system, and only an outside force (something spiritual perhaps?) can reduce the entropy. I don't see how that would disagree with the Christian Bible or any other major religion.
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Alrighty, fine. Looking for Unbreakable Laws: "The total entropy of a closed system may only remain the same or increase."--Newton.
-Paw.
Not Newton -- Clausius.
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Alrighty, fine. Looking for Unbreakable Laws: "The total entropy of a closed system may only remain the same or increase."--Newton.
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Not Newton -- Clausius.
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"Oh, that's in every contract. It's what they call a sanity clause."
"Ha! You can't fool me. There ain't no Santy Claus."
What classic movie is that from? ( Too easy ... )
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Newton was one sharp math guy from the 1600's
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I will go with miracle on 34 th street.
Hmmm ... maybe the question isn't as easy as I thought.
I haven't seen The Santa Clause -- If the writers used that gag, they swiped it from an older movie ... not Miracle on 34th Steeet (or any other Christmas-themed movie, for that matter).
Sorry, Albais and Ace -- neither of you gets any marks for your answer ... :wink:
Where's Brantley? I bet he knows.
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I know I've heard this before. Sounds like something by the Three Stooges, but I don't think that's it.We haven't been playing the Quote Game for a while, but Lfan's post put me in mind of this bit of dialogue:
"Oh, that's in every contract. It's what they call a sanity clause."
"Ha! You can't fool me. There ain't no Santy Claus."
What classic movie is that from? ( Too easy ... )
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I bet a quick internet search of their movies would solve it, but I will resist the temptaion and see if anyone else can get it.
For the life of me, I can't recall any of their movie titles, or even which one Captain Spaulding was in.
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Groucho and Chico are negotiating a contract and wind up tearing out every clause (including the "sanity clause") until all that's left is a scrap of paper approximately the size of a postage stamp.
Captain Spaulding is Groucho's character in Animal Crackers. ("One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How it got into my pajmas I'll never know. Then I tried to remove the tusks, but they were so tight I couldn't budge them. Of course, in Alabama the Tuscaloosa ...")
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"Hey, how come my contract's shorter than your contract?"
"You must have been out on a tear last night."
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This is a whirlwind of a thread
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Can anybody make up a Marx Brothers routine involving a supergirl?
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Huh?
Can anybody make up a Marx Brothers routine involving a supergirl?
This is quite possibly one the most interesting challenges I've seen in a while.
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Huh?
Can anybody make up a Marx Brothers routine involving a supergirl?
This is quite possibly one the most interesting challenges I've seen in a while.
"I just saw Supergirl lifting an elephant in a short skirt! What an elephant was doing wearing a short skirt, I'll never know."
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