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Supergirl Pilot Thread (and reaction)

16 May 2015 15:00 - 16 May 2015 15:01 #42088 by castor
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talk2sparky wrote:

ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.


Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.


Going to make a prediction:

The plane crash factors into the plot of the episode such as it is with the aliens etc. either through accident or possible sabatouge

Though it may look like we have seen the entire plot of the first episode etc i am going to bet thats the case. That or it takes Seven Seasons for it all to come together.
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16 May 2015 15:03 #42089 by shadar
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castor wrote:

talk2sparky wrote:

ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.


Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.


Going to make a prediction:

The plane crash factors into the plot of the episode such as it is with the aliens etc. either through accident or possible sabatouge

Though it may look like we have seen the entire plot of the first episode etc i am going to bet thats the case. That or it takes Seven Seasons for it all to come together.


Wow... you and I were posting more or less the same thing at the same time, Castor. I posted my comment and then read yours.

Great minds think alike. (Or we're afflicted with the same insanity.) <grin>
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16 May 2015 15:11 - 16 May 2015 15:11 #42090 by lfan
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16 May 2015 15:24 - 16 May 2015 15:30 #42093 by castor
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shadar wrote:

castor wrote:

talk2sparky wrote:

ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.


Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.


Going to make a prediction:

The plane crash factors into the plot of the episode such as it is with the aliens etc. either through accident or possible sabatouge

Though it may look like we have seen the entire plot of the first episode etc i am going to bet thats the case. That or it takes Seven Seasons for it all to come together.


Wow... you and I were posting more or less the same thing at the same time, Castor. I posted my comment and then read yours.

Great minds think alike. (Or we're afflicted with the same insanity.) <grin>


Yeah though i suspect the plot maybe less complicated. i suspect some variation of either

1. Hey our alien ship is crashing and the effects aviation(somehow)

2. Or this goverment agent is on this plane. will you please make sure it never lands mr. lumberjack.

looking at the trailer we see a scene of kara and her sister getting ready for a date and her sister about to fly to geneva. next bit we see her sister on the plane and the date either presumbily over or very disapointed.

i am going to guess thats at least 5 minutes of screen time between them.

(also i am going to guess the plane crashes like 20 minutes into the episode, so those 2 minutes that people don't like-well you got time).

Do think your idea about conspiracy may have some merit. The creators like the complicated sci fi plot. No Ordinary Family in particuar went to some pretty dark places. Will see. But agian 22 episodes. As been pointed out her helper character will presumibly turn into toyman at somepoint(though i hope they push that out a bit)
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16 May 2015 15:45 - 16 May 2015 15:52 #42094 by Monty
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That scene on the rooftop helipad is perhaps the wildest thing I've ever seen on the small screen...right from where he says "OMG you're a lesbian...thats great news!" and then she does THAT. It has the humour..It has It All! Absolutely freakin awesome...can't get enough of it!
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16 May 2015 16:32 #42096 by TwiceOnThursdays
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talk2sparky wrote:

ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.


Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.


All of these comments make me ask a simple question:

What makes anyone watching this think that it's an accident? It could even be Supergirl related. Comic-book universe, someone who is looking for Supergirl for some reason (they know she's here from tracking her rocket, and have been looking for her). Psychic says "flight is important to target" (but not how), and viola. It's not an accident but an attempt to draw her out. It could be worse and they already know who she is and wanted to draw her into action for some reason. Heck, maybe it's a "friend" helping her realize her potential. (cue Unbreakable.)

Now mind: it's likely just an accident and they got details wrong, but it's a trailer and we don't know what's going on....

And ALL stories will bow to the story before they bow to reality. Yes, get all the details you can right, try to ground where you can. But if a story bogs and lives in all those details, it'll be boring and no one will care as no one will be watching. (I still give props to stories that get that stuff right, or don't try to TOTALLY leave reality .... but there's a cute chick who flies in the story so....)

And it never makes sense when Superman and co. lift boats, whales, cars by the edge, etc. But it's how things are done, and physics be damned. It's good visual storytelling, even if it's not "real". OTH, I maintain it's TK, so Supergirl isn't lifting the plane with her force of her two hands (which would rip it apart), but with TK.

None of that matters next to the awesome visual of Supergirl lifting a plane and guiding it into the water and climbing on the wing.... ;-)

(It'd still have been better to get a lot of those pesky details right, but I suspect they're focusing on other things, and those things are far more important in the long run.)
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16 May 2015 16:35 #42097 by TwiceOnThursdays
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shadar wrote:

castor wrote:

talk2sparky wrote:

ace191 wrote: Last time I checked, TV was a visual medium. What kind of visual would a plane flying on 3 engines after the crew had cut off the fuel and hit the fire bottles as it gently banked into the side with the two good engines make? Not a very good one in my opinion. And what are the odds of an engine on the opposite wing catching fire as well? This is called poetic license and I thought it looked pretty good and neither my wife nor my daughter understand or care about any of that. They thought that Supergirl did a great job saving the plane. Don't overthink it.


Exactly. And technically they never said only one engine went out, they said engine failure. Then they lose "another" engine, not a second one. The original engine failure may have already been 2 engines. Plus, it's a trailer! Who knows what other info is cut to keep it short. It's a fun exciting scene and gives us great motivation why Kara uses her powers for the first time.


Going to make a prediction:

The plane crash factors into the plot of the episode such as it is with the aliens etc. either through accident or possible sabatouge

Though it may look like we have seen the entire plot of the first episode etc i am going to bet thats the case. That or it takes Seven Seasons for it all to come together.


Wow... you and I were posting more or less the same thing at the same time, Castor. I posted my comment and then read yours.

Great minds think alike. (Or we're afflicted with the same insanity.) <grin>


And I make three (adding that it could even be a plan to draw out Supergirl...). iT's a comic book world so all these "not an accident" things happen.

I should read to the end of the thread before I comment... ;-)
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16 May 2015 19:40 #42102 by AuGoose
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Looking at the stills, you have to admire the work the make-up department did... that dark lipstick she wears to work doesn't leap out at you and yet it looks absolutely terrible on her skin tone. And those glasses... over all its a masterpiece in subtly wrecking her good looks. The contrast between her frumpy and in full bloom is impressive :).

(also a little chuckle at the scene where she bumps into someone on the street and kinda flattens them In passing)
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16 May 2015 20:07 - 16 May 2015 20:20 #42103 by bach2990
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The last 1 minute of the trailer, there are a song. Somebody find the song (not me), so I will just post link here.

Rachel Platten - Fight Song (Official Lyric Video)

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17 May 2015 07:19 - 17 May 2015 14:42 #42109 by YAGS
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Maybe it's just me, but from the trailer, it seems like they're trying too hard to create the next Ally McBeal for female audiences, and just doing it in the form of a superhero show because superheroes are popular right now. And no, I'm not just talking about the fact that they brought in Callista Flockhart. They made Kara your typical insecure 20-something woman trying to balance a stressful job in the big city with her personal life. That's a plot for an Aaron Spelling show, not a DC Comics show.

I just think either they're going to try too hard to attract the female audience, and lose the normal superhero audience, or else the superhero aspects will drive away the "chick flick" crowd that they're trying so hard to attract, while failing to win the superhero fans in the time slot because it's up against Gotham. Either way, the network execs will consider the show a failure if it doesn't deliver the audience they're looking for, even if they actually do manage to strike a perfect balance creatively.

I'm betting this thing doesn't last more than a season, even if it does turn out to be an awesome show, which seems unlikely. I hope I'm wrong, but I just can't bring myself to be optimistic about this one.
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17 May 2015 12:06 #42111 by Monty
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Just spotted something else in the official trailer... She turns to the mirror and says "My FAMily's coat of arms...her hair billows slightly. Is that a hint of superbreath rebounding from the mirror as she discusses her lost family with a passion? Her hair definitely billows for a split second. Absolutely awesome!
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17 May 2015 20:28 #42122 by five_red
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Monty wrote: Just spotted something else in the official trailer... She turns to the mirror and says "My FAMily's coat of arms...her hair billows slightly. Is that a hint of superbreath rebounding from the mirror as she discusses her lost family with a passion? Her hair definitely billows for a split second. Absolutely awesome!


Y'know, until it came up in the YouTube comments section, I had no idea the <S> symbol had been given an extra meaning a decade ago. It isn't just coat of arms for the House of El, it is also apparently the Krypton symbol for "hope".

And that set me thinking about a possible pic ...

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17 May 2015 20:48 #42123 by shadar
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five_red wrote:

Monty wrote: Just spotted something else in the official trailer... She turns to the mirror and says "My FAMily's coat of arms...her hair billows slightly. Is that a hint of superbreath rebounding from the mirror as she discusses her lost family with a passion? Her hair definitely billows for a split second. Absolutely awesome!


Y'know, until it came up in the YouTube comments section, I had no idea the <S> symbol had been given an extra meaning a decade ago. It isn't just coat of arms for the House of El, it is also apparently the Krypton symbol for "hope".

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Didn't that "Hope" definition of the "S" come from the Man of Steel movie? Or was that in the comics or somewhere else before? Anyone know?
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17 May 2015 22:15 #42126 by jdrock24
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I just showed the trailer (the first one over 6 minutes) to my 9 year old daughter and she gave it two enthusiastic thumbs up. She cannot wait for it to start in November. That's at least one new fan that will be watching.
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18 May 2015 19:00 - 18 May 2015 19:17 #42147 by bach2990
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18 May 2015 19:18 #42148 by castor
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bach2990 wrote: Just wow


Don't want to be that guy, but looking at this picture(which i am guessing was shot in the last week or so)-does Benoist look a lot more buff then in earlier pictures or the trailer. Her arms look a *lot* bigger then the Flashes in this pic. I think the suit is deisgned a touch to emphasis this..but it is noticable.

She looks like in the month or so since they shot the pilot she spent a lot of time in the gym.
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18 May 2015 19:21 - 19 May 2015 06:35 #42149 by Monty
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Love the knee-high red leather boots in the Variety photoshoots....Could they be new arrivals later in tbe season? Probably just a quitky add-on for the photoshoot
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18 May 2015 19:30 #42150 by SHTL
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Yeah, gym gym gym buff buff buff !!!!

Super human teen girl, super strong and unbreakable, with very bad attitude :)
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18 May 2015 20:05 #42151 by bach2990
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article: TV’s Super Producer: Greg Berlanti Powers Up With ‘Supergirl,’ ‘The Flash’

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18 May 2015 21:24 #42157 by bach2990
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I did not see this coming. Photo shoot.

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