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Supergirl Pilot Thread (and reaction)

14 May 2015 00:16 #41976 by Sarge395
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Holy crap! It is amazing. Watched twice. Paused on the skirt minus cape scene for only about a half hour. :evil:

This is everything that I could have hoped for.

Now just waiting for the scene where she is turned evil or mind controlled.
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14 May 2015 00:42 - 14 May 2015 00:43 #41978 by inactive
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Very promising. If they can keep that fun, but not campy vibe I'll be excited. There was more action and FX than I was expecting - it will be interesting to see how that shakes out on a weekly basis when they have to be more careful with the budget.

Also, Supergirl vs. 18-Wheeler. Always bet on Supergirl.

Fun!

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14 May 2015 02:00 - 14 May 2015 02:29 #41979 by castor
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My thoughts:

One of the things i read of this was Either people seem to think this is great and the best thing they saw or day or a total disaster.

where am i?i can kinda see where both are.

I'll say this-i don't think i have ever seen a five minute trailer i really loved. its not a good format to expose media.They tend to show to much, a little much on focusing on the story which is never really what your selling in a trailer. i think you could have cut out the scene from krypton and the opening naration, which felt a tuch diminious. i think if the first time we see her powers its saving a plane they made a mistake somewhere-you don't start the show with a show stopper. As it keeps going i just kept thinking it shows a little much a little much to give a sence where seeing bits of every scene, which has the effect of being a touch predictable . For a show that started with Heres my story" it felt almost as if you knew the story.

(also i would have cut out all of the stuff about Superman: it doesn't actually help this story)

but well..thats critiquing the trailer.

And heres the important part. When Benoist is on the screen- this is great. As Supergirl shes fantastic, and she gives a great sense of power and just a tad 'oh common' that works to keep it relatable. As Kara, she does a good take on someone whose not quite nerd but not quite anything else either. It feels a good performance, as someone on my facebook feed put it...adorkable, which only increases as it goes forward. As she gets more super and her enthusiasm for it builds its a great montage.

Her scenes with Jeremey Jordan are great-there seems to be a fun comic energy there which i hope the show doesn't loose to quickly if he turns to a villian. Its a great energy, that feels like really great chemestry as if something you would see on the site. A guy just in awe and her reflecting it back.

Someone on my facebook compared it to lois and clark, and if thats this that great. As an action heroine it really sells..She likes it. and thus we like it.

And all of the super stuff are amazing. they clearly pulled all the stops for it and it shows. every beat of it looks fantastic, movie quality and there is a confidence to both the effects works and how there shot that is palatable. Benoist did great in them. Its quite a thrill a lot better then anything on the flash and just feels great. Like the details that when she saves the plane shes wet, and the cape doesn't hold up very well, and that shes bulletproof..and just takes it, and well she breaks things up.

But....

Calista Flockhart is yes doing the devil Wears prada, and yes that can get annoying, and may but theres something to it, and there is something of both the evil and vaugely human. A lot of the critques of the trailer of her, which I'll say is fair, but so far i am okay on . Hank Henshaw is fine though we don't see much of him, though i hope hes just not a generic general. We only see a couple of seconds of Vartox..and man i hope this isn't what they do with Vartox. There is so much potential there. i like the slightly comic tone of it all, and i hope they can transfer it to the main villians..

Which i guess is to the stuff i didn't like.

Her Sister. Awful. Just going to say it. Not sure if its Crystal Leigh or her lines..but she just seems a generic Nag. This is sister as someone who holds you in scorn, not as a positive relationship, which it tried at the end, but well..it just doesn't work. It feels as if a relationship designed by exposition. The scenes i think are suposed to be the emtional beat of the show..and if thats that...ehh..

And Merchad Brooks...i see what there going for, and Benoist does an interesting job of showing attraction..but not really. i don't hate it really, and it could be a lot more, but in the like 10 or seconds when hes talking about how superman posed for the picture feel like a nice human touch. overall its not bad, and it could be something intresting. If this is the shows main rommance, it doesn't feel quite there yet-theres just not real chemstry. And also the last scene with him on the roof-if thats where there going in the pilot that removes a lot of his intrest as a character. it just feels a touch..i guess heavy.

Which i guess is my main complaint-when the show is trying to be serious, the writing is very comicbooky in the worst way. it feels like something from a soap opera.When its trying for funny and exciting this is great. it feels very light and charming and well human.

Which i guess is what i think. This seems human. and thats good.
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14 May 2015 03:00 #41982 by thewisewatcher
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After seeing this trailer I couldn't wait to come to this site and see what other people had to say. I thought the effects were first rate, the actress is pretty and it's giving us the subject matter we all want.

PLEASE let it be good and be renewed for multiple seasons
Commence firing THREAD
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14 May 2015 03:12 - 14 May 2015 12:18 #41983 by shadar
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Other than Kara not being blonde enough (a very minor gripe) I was really impressed. Way better than I feared, and even better than my highest hopes.

I didn't originally think Melissa was well cast as Kara, but now that I see where they are going with her, I've changed my mind. She is perfect for the role as written. A favorite of mine like Laura V would not have worked at all. They are clearly writing to Melissa's strengths.

Special effects are WAY better than anything in Smallville, but this is 2015 so they should be.

Sure, its' a bit soap operatic with a lighter spin on the comic book geekdom than I might prefer (they ARE making this for CBS after all). They are trying to leverage the Clark Kent concept more than I would, but I can have fun with what they've done. Clearly when she has to kick ass, she does.

I don't think I like the idea that James Olson is a buddy of Superman and that he knew about Kara before she "came out". That he and Kal El were kind of mentoring and encouraging her without her knowing it. That's not the Jimmy I grew up with, but I might come to like the change.

Agree with other comments that Alexa was a bust, but that could be a problem with editing the trailer. Guess we'll see. I had high hopes for her character being kind of Homelandish. If so, that didn't come through in the trailer.

To Castor's point, these long trailers probably give too much away, but it is 6 months or whatever until it plays. I was afraid that an early, long trailer would hurt the show more than help it (anticipation is a powerful thing), but I think they pulled it off.

Color me enthusiastic and very impressed and most hopeful. I also think I'm going to become a Melissa fan. In and out of costume. I'm glad I was wrong about her.

Shadar
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14 May 2015 03:12 #41984 by Dru1076
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I have been wary of getting my hopes up too much with this series. Am having a real hard time not getting excited now...looks like they have done an extremely classy job. Now I must try not pine too much waiting for the pilot to air....

"Stupid Reality!" - Homer J. Simpson
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14 May 2015 03:15 #41985 by castor
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After seeing this trailer I couldn't wait to come to this site and see what other people had to say. I thought the effects were first rate, the actress is pretty and it's giving us the subject matter we all want.

PLEASE let it be good and be renewed for multiple seasons
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i think in everyway your correct.

i wish i liked the stuff around her better, but...well you know thats the good part about TV. You can see what works and what doesn't. And yeah if this gets multiple seasons i bet its going to be great.
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14 May 2015 03:28 - 14 May 2015 03:28 #41986 by castor
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Other than Kara not being blonde enough (a very minor gripe) I was really impressed. Way better than I feared, and even better than my highest hopes.
I don't think I like the idea that James Olson is a buddy of Superman and that he knew about Kara before she "came out". That he and Kal El were kind of mentoring and encouraging her with
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the real problem with that (other then it gives away whats probabbly the last scene of the pilot-which problems) is that well...what does his character do in the second episode? He works in her office...and thats it. The old Superman stuff said "Hey newspapers know all the secrets before they happen"-nope they have the internet.

We have established two other characters who know her secret and her helping her..and..hes the third?

As i said as a love intrest there going for something and i don't think hes horrible as a performance-its just theres nothing much more for his character to do. And even as a love intrest in A TV Show hes in an odd place. Hes a handsome guy,...and what do they do. Hes not really in a point of tension with her. There relationship looks more or less setttled.

I kinda of like the idea-and if they had done this revel say half way through the season, it could have been a nice touch...but 5 minutes in...ehhh.
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14 May 2015 03:33 #41987 by steelknight3000
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It was a fantastic preview, hope people watch it before it's canned (don't get your hopes up though)

I will say though that the first two minutes are basically the same as the Black Widow PARODY trailer that was on SNL a few weeks ago. Found that to be a bit sad and hilarious.
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14 May 2015 04:04 #41988 by JAG81
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I thought it was great, being a TV show they can focus on character a little more. I love Kara's enthusiasm when it came to going out and doing the whole superhero thing, like when she was asked if she was sure she was bulletproof and the next shot where she found out the look on her face was great.

I'm definitely looking forward to this series. For the most part superhero movies and tv shows are all male and it will just be nice to have a female focused show. Hopefully this is the beginning of a female superhero trend that will spawn several shows and/or movies that will level the playing field.

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14 May 2015 04:09 #41989 by Sarge395
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14 May 2015 04:16 #41990 by castor
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It was a fantastic preview, hope people watch it before it's canned (don't get your hopes up though)

I will say though that the first two minutes are basically the same as the Black Widow PARODY trailer that was on SNL a few weeks ago. Found that to be a bit sad and hilarious.


This maybe a case of one of the bits of the show not telling you everything...but part of the problem is i never got a real sence What Cat does. Shes in the media..somehow. Newspapers, TV...its a bit vauge. and yeah it is very cliched Woman media. It feels every bad boss sterotype. At least Devils Wears prada did have a paltable sence that this is fashion and that at least to the people involved mater. this felt vauge.

I kinda of like however what there doing with the Comic Silk where the good heroine is also just an intern-but hey she likes it. Shes just starting out and even if her job is just getting mail and cofee shes starting out in the world, and shes going to make the best of it!! and besides shes a kick ass superhero by night!!!
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14 May 2015 05:08 #41991 by d_k_c
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That's just Super :)
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14 May 2015 06:00 - 14 May 2015 06:01 #41992 by lfan
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MB is absolutely adorable and perfectly cast for this type of show IMO. it goes to show that still promo pictures, especially theirs, don't do it justice. And the internet trolls that were calling her ugly and plain....haha, its more laughable than ever now.

Similarly to the promo photos, I don't think Cat or Alex's performance can really be established from a six minute trailer ( of which they were a tiny part). I find it humorous with all the Devil Wears Prada references people are drawing....like every bitchy or assertive female boss is somehow channeling the ghost of Meryl Streep? I do agree with the comments made that it seems like too many people already know her secret. But that (and maybe some of the dialog) were my only nitpicks. I cannot believe how great that trailer exceeded my expectations!

They definitely look,like they are channeling a LnC vibe to the show as mentioned earlier. If not mistaken, Nina Tassler was is producer on that show so it might not be coincidental. While it might seem sappy to a lot of us, it might be a good play to help insure the shows staying power by appealing to a bigger demographic.

Regardless, if the series consistently delivers the comedy-drama-action shown in the trailer, I'll be glued to it every week (even if it didn't, I probably still would :p)

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14 May 2015 06:23 #41993 by oldHarmonyMotion
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What? This is what everyone is excited about? This looks terrible! I can't believe they're going to shit all over Supergirl like this.

Warning: Spoiler!
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14 May 2015 10:19 #41994 by dave147
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totally awesome even trailer is super I expect at this early stage just a 30 sec with supergirl flying if lucky for a brief not a 6 min one is beyond anything I expectand i cant wait to nov full pilot and esps just super super that all I can say
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14 May 2015 10:50 #41995 by Markiehoe
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I LOVE the second look!

I would be perfectly happy if this was her final version.
The glasses really do it for me.

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14 May 2015 13:56 #41997 by lfan
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14 May 2015 14:22 #41998 by jdrock24
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I'm sorry for this, but I guess I'm going to be "that guy" here.

Don't get me wrong, the action scenes look incredible, and I'm really looking forward to those. However, the rest of it does not look appealing to me at all.

Let me stress the words "to me". I know that this show is not targeted at my demographic (middle aged man). It is being targeted to younger women so CBS probably couldn't care less about whether or not I watch. It just looks too formulaic in the "young girl stuck in crappy job and wants to do better" type of genre, like the movie Devil Wears Prada or the Black Widow SNL skit we saw just last week. I can already hear the internet cries of "RIPOFF!!!" and "FAIL!!!"screaming through my computer.

It was always going to be hard to write this show without being able to show Superman which is why that last scene with her and Olsen seems confusing. I found myself asking "Okay,, Superman is giving her his baby blanket, how nice. Why doesn't he come and do it himself instead of going through Jimmy?"

Oh well, I have a 9 year old daughter so maybe I'll watch it with her and see what she thinks. I'll be watching just for the action scenes.
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14 May 2015 17:00 #42001 by oldHarmonyMotion
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Nobody commented on the first scene in the pilot where she bumps into a guy and he just bounces off of her. I thought that was a nice touch.
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14 May 2015 17:12 #42003 by ace191
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WOW! I loved the, "It's not a bird, it's not a plane, it's not a man, it's Supergirl! MB is so cute in her red and blues, the perfect dream girl next door. I ran it by a focus group of one, my mid twenties daughter and she liked it and said that she will watch it. She started telling me about who all the hot guys were on the show and what they had done in the past. She said that the guy on the roof when she falls off is a very talented singer and she and her friends think he is very hot. They watch Flash and Arrow for the same reason, to check out the hot guys.

My over all take on this is that they spared no expense on getting the right talent to put around MB and most likely really did their homework. I thought in her brief appearance, Caliesta Flockhart came off as an excellent female version of Lex Luthor. And yes, it did bring back memories of MS in the Devil wears Prada, only a younger, hotter version. She will be the one we love to hate. That Hans Solo guy is really lucky as she is very easy on the eyes! Like most TV shows, it will ultimately come down to how good the writers are. I hope they will put the same resources into that as they have into the casting and production values thus far. Like they always say, "No guts, no glory," and in this case, guts refers to money put out by CBS and I hope they get a monster return on this gamble.
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14 May 2015 17:16 #42004 by TwiceOnThursdays
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I have to say the music is the weakest part of this. Better choices and this would have knocked itself even higher (but make it makes it score better with the target demo).

That said, I really like what I see so far. "adorkable" is the right word to describe Melissa Benoist, and she really does sell both Kara and Supergirl. It might seem odd, but she has great shoulders, which does make her look awesome in her Supergirl uniform. I love the entire expression during the walk into bullets thing.

The action scenes are great, I can't wait to see more and see them in context.

I had been a bit worried about the costume -- it was shown as dark in the promo shots, but it looks really great here. And, as I suspected, when it's being worn and moved in, it looks great. I'm still not quit sold on the S-Logo, but she sells it.

Not sure about all the personal dynamics of the show, we'll have to see them in place more. From the plot we'd heard, it seemed like her sister might have been jealous/mean, and some of that comes through here -- but she also is supportive at the end of the trailer. So not a lex author/bad girl vibe, I think I'll like the more positive interaction shown here.

I like not having the stupid drama over secret ID, but it also seems like a bit too many people know who she is. Also, I hope she doesn't stay a beat down lackey at work for long. I also don't think we know enough about Cat Grant to really judge her from this. I hope she has more nuance in her character on the show.

And it seems REALLY odd that Superman would send James Olson to give her his baby blanket as a cape, and tell her what he things. It seems very ... cold. He's literally the only tie she has to her ENTIRE HOMEWARD, and he sends a messenger boy? I guess there is a them "Superman is a dick", but I don't think this is the message they were trying to send. ;-)

I also hope they explore a bit about her being really alien, far more than Clark is. In a very real sense Clark was born on Earth. Kara was born on Krypton. I could see her burying that part of her thru trauma. And now she'll be dealing with some of that, and that could make some interesting stories. I suspect that they'll make ti seem all good. I hope not, I hope for something more than just some angsty "My planet blew up" but some real indication of what it's like, and how she had to learn to cope. Still the tone is light, so it's also a thing we should only see in more quiet moments, little beats to show that her being positive and happy is a sign of great emotional strength.

It's also something that when she's being positive and happy, a character filled with light, that when she meets some of the more... angsty fellows and they take her for some bubblehead cheerleader, she can slap them down. "Oh, boo hoo. Your parents were shot in an alley and you saw it. I saw my ENTIRE PLANET explode."
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14 May 2015 17:16 - 14 May 2015 17:21 #42005 by ace191
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I noticed her knocking the guy several feet to the left as we'll and chuckled a bit when I saw it. I agree it was a nice touch. It's attention to detail that can turn agood show into a great one.
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14 May 2015 18:18 #42007 by shadar
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There are some points I don't like... for one, when she's talking to Alexa and she says she can lift a bus and is bulletproof and "I can fly... I think" was a problem for me. Not a problem with the shows drama or storyline or characters and actors, but its premise.

Its the idea that she's never tried out her Kryptonian abilities. Totally implausible.

She knows her history and origin, she certain sees and hears about her cousin all the time, but she's never tried to fly? How could anyone growing up on Earth with those astounding abilities never even try to use them. That's insane. Or at the very least, totally implausible. Any teenage girl (if not younger) will explore her limits.

But it's a premise of the show that will quickly be behind us, and most comic books have bizarre premises and backstories. But this one is weak. If she was so traumatized by Krypton's destruction and so smothered in her foster home as to not even try out her abilities, then she'd be a very scarred, screwed-up young woman. Instead, she seems quite together.

Further, once she does try to fly (a few awkward bounces along a dark alleyway) she suddenly is so good at it that she can lift a crashing airliner over a bridge and everything else. I know, its a comic book, but still.

Clark's inability to fly in Smallville was also bizarre, but plausible. He simply didn't believe he could do it. He tried and failed all the time. Kara in Supergirl, in contrast, believes she can, but she just hasn't bothered to try until her sister is in trouble.

Try to put yourself in her place. If you were Kryptonian, would you grow up into your mid-twenties without even TRYING to use your birth abilities? It's inconceivable.

Anyway, this is a comics-inspired show, so these kinds of nonsensical things will necesssarily be part of it. But I hope they come up with a better explanation for her restraint than we've seen so far.

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14 May 2015 18:29 #42008 by inactive
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Does anybody have a still or screencap of Kara giving the "thumbs up" from the second (short) trailer?

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