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Season 1 x 03 Spoilers and Discussions Fight or Flight

13 Nov 2015 16:43 #45145 by algae2k
I could've done without one or two specific cultural references, but I liked the Homeland reference. There's also the nod to Calista's husband with the "Millennial Falcon" headline (especially timely). :)

I also thought it interesting to note Kara's correction: Supergirl never told Cat her age (she's actually a 48-year old Kryptonian stuck in a 24-year old Kryptonian's body). [Note: Kal-El's 36 in this show's continuity and has been Superman for at least 12 years.]

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13 Nov 2015 17:00 #45146 by shadar

algae2k wrote: I could've done without one or two specific cultural references, but I liked the Homeland reference. There's also the nod to Calista's husband with the "Millennial Falcon" headline (especially timely). :)

I also thought it interesting to note Kara's correction: Supergirl never told Cat her age (she's actually a 48-year old Kryptonian stuck in a 24-year old Kryptonian's body). [Note: Kal-El's 36 in this show's continuity and has been Superman for at least 12 years.]


There used to be arguments about how fast a Kryptonian ages when living under a yellow sun. The consensus as I recall was that they either they didn't age at all, or it was many times slower than human. They are invulnerable and largely fueled by solar energies of some kind.

But the comics have shown all kinds of ideas in that area. I recall one where Clark Kent has to wear "aging makeup" because his wife Lois is in her 80's and Superman still looks thirtyish. He was talking about disappearing after she died and then reappearing as a young man (obviously another secret identity) so he could have another life. That reminded me of vampire stories where they do that to keep people from realizing that they aren't getting older.

In the TV series, it appears they are aging at the same rate as everyone else, which seems to be a major hole in the Kryptonian mythos, but understandable given the audience.

After all, having the thoughts and experiences of a much older woman in a 13 year old body would be creepy, if Kara didn't age. And at 13, there isn't much you can do except go to school and live with your family. There is an interesting story line here, a perpetually young girl who moves from town to town, school to school, even family to family to preserve her secret identity while gaining adult experiences as Supergirl, but not one that would make sense for network TV.

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13 Nov 2015 17:33 #45148 by TwiceOnThursdays
Replied by TwiceOnThursdays on topic Season 1 x 03 Spoilers and Discussions Fight or Flight

shadar wrote:

algae2k wrote: I could've done without one or two specific cultural references, but I liked the Homeland reference. There's also the nod to Calista's husband with the "Millennial Falcon" headline (especially timely). :)

I also thought it interesting to note Kara's correction: Supergirl never told Cat her age (she's actually a 48-year old Kryptonian stuck in a 24-year old Kryptonian's body). [Note: Kal-El's 36 in this show's continuity and has been Superman for at least 12 years.]


There used to be arguments about how fast a Kryptonian ages when living under a yellow sun. The consensus as I recall was that they either they didn't age at all, or it was many times slower than human. They are invulnerable and largely fueled by solar energies of some kind.

But the comics have shown all kinds of ideas in that area. I recall one where Clark Kent has to wear "aging makeup" because his wife Lois is in her 80's and Superman still looks thirtyish. He was talking about disappearing after she died and then reappearing as a young man (obviously another secret identity) so he could have another life. That reminded me of vampire stories where they do that to keep people from realizing that they aren't getting older.

In the TV series, it appears they are aging at the same rate as everyone else, which seems to be a major hole in the Kryptonian mythos, but understandable given the audience.

After all, having the thoughts and experiences of a much older woman in a 13 year old body would be creepy, if Kara didn't age. And at 13, there isn't much you can do except go to school and live with your family. There is an interesting story line here, a perpetually young girl who moves from town to town, school to school, even family to family to preserve her secret identity while gaining adult experiences as Supergirl, but not one that would make sense for network TV.


A often shown sub-theory to the reduced/no aging is that aging happens normally until some peak age (early 20's), and then aging halts/slows down. There is some evidence that there are some final changes in brain chemistry around 25 (studies on how risk is perceived, how the plastic the brain is, etc), and a lot of people are still growing until early 20's. These could be the triggers that slows things down -- though I always took this as an out, to not write the horror of being a perpetual child. There is something to be said that with the yellow sun radiation, Kryptonians are moved to some ultimate expression of their genes: ideal physical shape, age, maximum height -- poor diet as a child leads to all sorts of things, and modern studies shows that starvation as children can not only affect someone for their entire life, but their children too. It could be that the regenerative effects of the yellow sun would undo all that.

Certainly even when the comics were talking about Superman's reduced aging, Supergirl always aged, maybe stopping in the decade before she died in Crisis.

It's a fantastic story where someone's aging stops as a child -- it's been handled in more than a few stories (Interview with a Vampire, The comic Fables with Pinocchio. etc). It's always very creepy.

Though in the case of Supergirl, it would be on of those things where she'd really look into finding a world with a Red Sun to go spend about 8 years living on, and could age to 21. Though I suspect it'd be a few years before any realized she wasn't aging...

If you mix the two it could be great. She'll age until maturity, but still at a slow rate. So she'd be 13 for a long time, maybe taking decades to reach 21. And make it hard for her to go else where to age -- and then she has to just deal with it. I wonder what the lasting psychological effects of spending 100 years as a teenager would be. And not just having the brain chemistry and hormones of a teenager for that long, but also in how people treat you. Though after a point, with some makeup and how she presents herself, she could pass for a small young-looking adult woman.

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13 Nov 2015 18:31 #45150 by elnovo1234
Another good episode, too bad the lack of supergirl transformations i was exited when i watched the pilot... Well its a fun show anyway..:)

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16 Nov 2015 14:14 - 16 Nov 2015 14:17 #45199 by algae2k
They seem to be giving us bits and pieces of the whole package: the rip in the pilot... the glasses off and hair cascading down in 1.3. At least they aren't going stock footage for that! :) I do hope they're building to something...
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19 Nov 2015 21:21 - 19 Nov 2015 21:43 #45250 by Monty

lfan wrote:

five_red wrote: Best Scenes?

Similarly, I Loved the last scene with her and Alex bonding as well. I think one of the strengths of the show is the dynamic between them which I look forward to them exploring and leveraging more and more as the season progresses. It has been written in the press that Melissa and Chyler are like sisters on the set and the chemistry really shines forth on the screen. Love the special shoutout to watching "Homeland" when she flies out (for those not familiar, Homeland starred David Harewood as the Director of the CIA in the first season.....as well as guest starred a topless and brunette Melissa Benoist as a harem/escort candidate )

To the cast and crew of Supergirl, keep them coming!!

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Thanks ElF - I was lucky enough to catch eps 2and 3 on YT before it was closed down (waiting on the new broadband to kick in). Loved that scene with the cushion! Watched it a few times - She could have taken her head off!

BIB2 I didn't know that about the background of the Homeland quip - nice touch.... building nicely :)

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