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But why would that soldier pull out a knife when fricking BULLETS had no effect?
"If you threaten our son again, I'll put my heel through your skull"
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arvin sloane wrote: Looks fantastic! And Bad Ass
But why would that soldier pull out a knife when fricking BULLETS had no effect?
Because until very recent times (early 2000 at least) many bulletproof polymers didn't offer much in terms defense against bladed weapons.
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arvin sloane wrote: Looks fantastic! And Bad Ass
But why would that soldier pull out a knife when fricking BULLETS had no effect?
At that point it looked like it was her armor that protected her, so he must've asumed that he had better chances hitting her face with a knife. He probably didn't know that her skin is just as invulnerable...
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Looking forward to this one!
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www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/06/14...vie_of_the_year.html
It does make a good point, which i can't quite refute. I can't think of any movies with good female supervillans.
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And Faora is bad ass in the movie
Peace.
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A short preview of the fight scene. The armor is cool but mostly unsexy.
Any spoiler free previews of what else she does in the movie?
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She has a couple more (pretty good) fight scenes. Can't say more without spoilers I guess.
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steelknight3000 wrote:
A short preview of the fight scene. The armor is cool but mostly unsexy.
Any spoiler free previews of what else she does in the movie?
My god, that was AWESOME!!! One of the best ubergirl scenes i have seen in years, and dammit, it´s superman she´s beating down
"If you threaten our son again, I'll put my heel through your skull"
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shadar wrote: Go see the movie... there's tons of similar stuff.
Indeed....LOTS of bits of Faora 'strutting her stuff'. Uber bad ass!
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Hopefully Faora's character is a sign of more powerful female villians to come in mainstream cinema, but unless they finally get around to making Wonder Woman, or another Supergirl film, I doubt we'll ever see an evil superbabe take centre stage without a General Zod standing in front of her...
On the subject of her outfit, personally, I think Faora's armour is perfect. Don't forget they are warriors, and they don't usually have superpowers to rely on.
Thanks guys, for posting these excellent teasers...I can't wait to see the whole film. Looks like it's going to awesome.
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Faora is still developing her powers and senses on Earth, so she didn't display either heat vision or flight power that I recall. But she could kick Kal El's butt in hand-to-hand combat, not to mention overwhelm conventional military forces. She was briefly incapacitated when she removed her helmet/visor and was exposed to Earth's environment, especially the noises that overwhelmed her. By the end of the movie, she was still adjusting and looked like she was pretty close to mastering our environment.
Zod, who spent more time outside the ship, was able to remove his armor and fight Kal El at the end, with his heat vision and flight powers fully operational.
I'm sure Faora will have all the powers by the time the sequel comes out, assuming she and Zod return to Earth. As it was, she was the best warrior until she was overwhelmed by sounds. She didn't know how to block them out. She also took a Hellfire-type missile to the chest while her visor was open, along with gobs of bullets, none of which seemed to hurt her. She sort of walked into the guys who were spraying her down with automatic fire before punching them so hard they flew a block away. But her main job was to capture both Kal El and Lois and take them to Zod's ship. Which she did in brutal fashion.
Bottom line, she can kick ass, but seemed to still need her suit, at least to avoid Earth's environment. But given Zod no longer needed his suit at the end, she's gotta be ready to tear hers off as well. But we didn't quite see that in this movie.
Still very impressive though... I was just disappointed that the Krypts had a problem with Earth's atmosphere (and Kal El with the Kryptonian atmosphere). That's a new concept that I'm still digesting. On the flip side, they seem to adjust very quickly, if Zod was any example.
I'm hoping for a Faora versus Supergirl fight in the sequel, but who knows... recall that Kara Zor El in this newly rebooted universe is a warrior trained and far older than Kal. So unlike Kal, she's probably as good a fighter as Faora.
Assuming, of course, that Kara's in the sequel. All we know from the Prequel is that she crashed on Earth a long time ago. Why put another El on Earth if not to have her surface at some point?
We have to be satisfied with Faora as a bad-ass ubergirl doing Kryptonian stuff in this movie. Its a great start.
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And I can give a theory as to why Zod and the other Kryptonians had a hard time with Earth's atmosphere and Kal had a hard time with Kryptonian atmosphere: (Mind you, I haven't seen the movie yet)
Well, simply because Kal was on Earth every since childbirth so he had all the time in the world to adjust to things, not to mention his powers developed a bit slower than Zod and Faora and the others. So he had a lot of time to practice and develop his powers and get used to all the noise his hearing can pick up. I wouldn't be surprised that the Kents gave him noise-cancelling fighter pilot headphones or something similar and then reduce it down as he was able to filter out the noise until he can selectively hear what he wants to hear.
By the way, that is an impressive feat if I may add.
And considering he hasn't been on Krypton since he was a baby, he probably would never get used to that environment until he had the time and training to do so. Pending of course that his Fortress can emulate that environment or he finds a planet with a similar environment as Krypton.
Which is why Zod and the others are literally at home with a Kryptonian environment, because they grew up on it. And it's also the same reason why they are terrible with Earth's environment in addition to the yellow sun fueling their abilities. They simply did not have the time or training to adapt like Kal did.
To be honest, I think it's rather clever that the writers did that. It shows they thought much deeper about the physiology of a Kryptonian between a group that is fresh out of Krypton and a Kryptonian that has been living on Earth for the past 20 years or so. It also shows that they actually care about Superman both as a mythos and as a franchise by factoring in all of these things during the fights.
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Faora is still developing her powers and senses on Earth, so she didn't display either heat vision or flight power that I recall. But she could kick Kal El's butt in hand-to-hand combat, not to mention overwhelm conventional military forces. She was briefly incapacitated when she removed her helmet/visor and was exposed to Earth's environment, especially the noises that overwhelmed her. By the end of the movie, she was still adjusting and looked like she was pretty close to mastering our environment.
Zod, who spent more time outside the ship, was able to remove his armor and fight Kal El at the end, with his heat vision and flight powers fully operational.
I'm sure Faora will have all the powers by the time the sequel comes out, assuming she and Zod return to Earth. As it was, she was the best warrior until she was overwhelmed by sounds. She didn't know how to block them out. She also took a Hellfire-type missile to the chest while her visor was open, along with gobs of bullets, none of which seemed to hurt her. She sort of walked into the guys who were spraying her down with automatic fire before punching them so hard they flew a block away. But her main job was to capture both Kal El and Lois and take them to Zod's ship. Which she did in brutal fashion.
Bottom line, she can kick ass, but seemed to still need her suit, at least to avoid Earth's environment. But given Zod no longer needed his suit at the end, she's gotta be ready to tear hers off as well. But we didn't quite see that in this movie.
Still very impressive though... I was just disappointed that the Krypts had a problem with Earth's atmosphere (and Kal El with the Kryptonian atmosphere). That's a new concept that I'm still digesting. On the flip side, they seem to adjust very quickly, if Zod was any example.
I'm hoping for a Faora versus Supergirl fight in the sequel, but who knows... recall that Kara Zor El in this newly rebooted universe is a warrior trained and far older than Kal. So unlike Kal, she's probably as good a fighter as Faora.
Assuming, of course, that Kara's in the sequel. All we know from the Prequel is that she crashed on Earth a long time ago. Why put another El on Earth if not to have her surface at some point?
We have to be satisfied with Faora as a bad-ass ubergirl doing Kryptonian stuff in this movie. Its a great start.
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You make some good points on Kryptonian adaptation to Earth's environment, particularly the noise (which is shown as an issue for young Clark earlier in the movie), but it's another of the changes in mythos that I'm adjusting to. Comic book Kryptonians could survive in any environment.
But what this emphasizes, which is a very important point, is that the Man of Steel reboot wipes out almost everything we've seen in the comic books. Sure, they kept some of the signposts along the way (Kent family, Perry at the Planet, Lois, etc.) but changed them dramatically. That's intentional. MOS is the new definition of Kryptonians. It doesn't even come close to following the New 52 reboot of a year ago.
What is exciting is that after DC's many (largely failed) reboots of Superman and Supergirl over the decades, starting again with the New 52, this reboot appears to be a lot better thought out and executed. It wipes away everything that came before. Normally I'd be extremely critical of that, but I'm growing to like this new mythos more ever day. There is good writing here, but it needs a few movies to bring it out. They didn't have time in MOS to do more than touch on some characters.
In any case, I need to go back and see the movie again tonight to refine my thoughts further.
But it does boggle my mind that DC would relaunch their star character and mythos in the New 52, and then agree to yet another major tweak in the mythos for the movie immediately after that. I can only conclude that they needed to escape their own weak imagination and story telling and turn the reigns over to someone who could inject excitement and fresh GOOD ideas into the story, along with giving them a lot of freedom. Apparently that level of talent was only available to them if it was connected to a big bucks mega-movie. At least, that's my theory.
Bottom line as I see it... if you are well-steeped in Superman lore (as I am), you have to leave all that behind when you watch the movie. This is fresh and mostly new stuff. David Goyer wrote the original script, but he was unavailable to do the final tweaks as movie production approached, so Kurt Johnstad (from 300) was hired to modify the script, and Jonah Nolan (Dark Knight) joined in the effort as well. I have no idea how much or in what ways the Goyer script was changed just before and during production, but its clear that they collectively worked very hard to be fresh.
So... if you go to see Superman as you know him, then you'll hate most of Man of Steel.
But if you go to see a modern SciFi movie that involves Kryptonians, including Superman, then you might love it.
It requires a really open mind. I tried to open mine up, but it wasn't enough. Now, a few days later, I'm still working the crowbars into the cracks and trying to pry them open further. What's inside is worth the effort. I think.
This also suggests that if they do a Wonder Woman movie, they'll be able to escape her silly origins and re-imagine her completely differently, and possibly in a much more interesting way. That makes it possible perhaps, given the original character would never make it onto a 21st century screen. Same goes for Kara, which I now realize (after reading the Prequel and watching the movie) has been on Earth (presumably frozen) for 18,000 years. That's a MAJOR rethink of Supergirl. She comes from an entirely different era of Kryptonian history than Zod and his minions, or even Kal El's parents.
She also comes from an era of history where Kryptonians were trying to explore and terraform the universe to allow Krypton to expand. They had a bright vision of spreading their race far and wide. That all collapsed some time after Kara crashed on Earth (she was part of that golden era), as Kryptonian society turned in on itself and eventually destroyed their own planet, without successfully colonizing any other planet. Reminds me of our own space program in a way... after making some big strides in decades past, we now have trouble getting off the ground. Engineering excellence and an outward vision toward space has been replaced by infighting and bureaucratic entanglement and competition for scarce resources. Instead of leaving Krypton to explore new worlds, the Krypts drill into the core to unlock that energy to fuel their society, and it all goes blooey. "Drill, baby, drill."
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As for man of steel it did try that. but If anything thought they could have pushed it further the minute Cadvil put on the suit he stopped being very intresting. Which was overall my kind of thought of the movie.
That said I agree with the article i posted Faora was the best part of the movie not for any kind of 'superwomenmania' purposes but she was the only actor who seemed to have any fun of the kryptonians. and thus kind of a fun performance, in a movie that could use it.
A little more spoiler stuff
The ending made sence i thought and was kind of clever . its an old trick of the comics. 'hey i am superman, but if you have my powers you also have my weaknesses!' Stuff like sound felt very thematic of the idea of a man who can't quite fit in on earth.
That said i think i actually liked it more if the movie didn't have any of the krypton stuff in it and he was fighting badies on earth. A clever man(or woman) who could exploit that kind of stuff could have been a more intresting foe then Micheal Shannon looking kind of lost, an a climax that felt like a generic summer action battle
As i have said before i expect that Warners will do A Wonder woman movie, maybe a Supergirl Movie if the wonder woman movie sucseeds. I hope your right shadar that they play around with that stuff more. I do think the new 52 stuff making Wonder Womans character 'hey shes greek mythology' i think whould make for a bad movie if thats the only note you give her(but then i think it makes for a kind of bad comic).
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But, there is no way they could do a Superman movie without the costume, so I'm way out on a limb in saying it would have been better without it.
That said, could they do a WW movie without her trademark costume? We've been around on that one. I say, "absolutely", give me a skintight leather outfit that gets mostly shot or burned away in battle and I'd be happy. But I'm definitely also in a minority on this one. And the connection to mythology is a non-starter for me. That bugs me about Thor in the Marvel universe as well.
I guess all my writing about Velorians over the years, without introducing canonical costumes, trying to do more SciFi than comic book stuff says it all. Superhumans can wear anything (and after a battle, perhaps just a few scraps of clothing are left), but an indestructible cape and leotard? Maybe a character could borrow a costume from Earth's mythology to try and avoid cultural dissonance, but only for that reason. Otherwise it seems silly in a SciFi movie.
Let the flames begin... <grin>
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castor wrote: If anything thought they could have pushed it further the minute Cadvil put on the suit he stopped being very intresting. Which was overall my kind of thought of the movie.
That said I agree with the article i posted Faora was the best part of the movie not for any kind of 'superwomenmania' purposes but she was the only actor who seemed to have any fun of the kryptonians. and thus kind of a fun performance, in a movie that could use it.
As i have said before i expect that Warners will do A Wonder woman movie, maybe a Supergirl Movie if the wonder woman movie sucseeds. I hope your right shadar that they play around with that stuff more. I do think the new 52 stuff making Wonder Womans character 'hey shes greek mythology' i think whould make for a bad movie if thats the only note you give her(but then i think it makes for a kind of bad comic).
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I just thought HE was bad in it. Once he became 'superman' he seemed a little bit to stiff for the part.
Christopher Reeve, Dean Cain and i think i am in the minority that Brandon Routh i think where pretty good at playing superman. Cavil just seemed like he was playing smarky jesus.
I know the logic says-oh we can't accept superhero costumes they look to silly. i think thats totally wrong.
And if they do a wonderwoman movie i think if they don't do a bathing suit no matter logic its not going to work as well. If you don't do the costumes you don't really have the character. If you give her a leather cat suit-you have Black Widow or someone else. Generic female action chick. Its no less or more silly. Spys and super solders don't really wear that kind of stuff.
You need a costume. But more important you need an actress who can kind of do something intresting with the part.
So don't put a wig on henry Cavil.
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