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"The Atomic Threat"

08 Jul 2011 07:17 #23899 by argonaut
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Dr. Muttonchops:

Thank you for another exciting installment in the adventures of Superwoman. I love the period flavor of these stories, and the way you use elements of "Golden Age" Superman lore such as the portrayal of Luthor (and how Superwoman, like her GA counterpart, doesn't always bother to pull her punches). If I owned an animation studio, I would be turning these into Fleischer-style cartoons!

My only nit-pick is that Superwoman doesn't go into action until 2/3 of the way through the story. And I was kind of hoping that Superwoman would straddle the bomb as it fell, like Slim Pickens in Dr. Strangelove, as she tears it open to de-activate it. But your ending was good, too.

Oh, and I appreciated the reference to Cary Grant -- since I've mentioned that I visualize Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell as Louis and Clara!

I'm looking forward to the next thrilling episode!

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08 Jul 2011 10:43 #23902 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Thanks, Argo! I'm glad these stories still appeal to you. That would be amazing! :woohoo:

I understand that. This is just the way I saw it in my head. Although I can't do anything about more Superwoman scenes, I have slightly re-written the climax and added the details you've requested, I'm awaiting a response from LF.

Yeah, I'm glad that you caught that. Thought I'd give you a little shout-out! ;)

It remains to be seen whether there even will be another one. Due to the lackluster responses of my previous stories, I'm considering retiring.

Thanks again for the kind words, my friend! :laugh:

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09 Jul 2011 04:44 - 09 Jul 2011 04:46 #23919 by Ravens_ghost
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I like your stories, I don't normal comment as how do I say "WOW this is great" when nearly ever time I read your stories I get this reactions.

As I don't think this would help you much, where as some of the writer can give you far more detailed feedback.
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09 Jul 2011 05:00 #23920 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Thanks, RG. I'm glad that you appreciate my contributions. However, I think I'm pretty much done here.

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09 Jul 2011 09:06 #23928 by inactive
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drmuttonchops3 wrote: Thanks, RG. I'm glad that you appreciate my contributions. However, I think I'm pretty much done here.


I hear ya. I've nearly quit a number of times, and have actually quit at least twice. I hate how much of my self-esteem is dependent on what other people thing of me, and I freak out every time I put myself out there by making something that I've written public.

When it comes down to it, I still come back and write another story, even if it doesn't come close to hitting the spot for most of the folks on this forum, because I can't help it. I love superwomen and I love writing about them, and this is one of the few places where I can submit something and know that at least one person won't think: "What the hell is this nonsense?".

This site covers a wide spectrum of tastes, including the area covered by your work. The problem is that, with so few of us spread across such a wide superwomen spectrum, it can sometimes seem that you are not connecting with anybody else. But, remember that for every person who posts something positive about what you write, there are ten or more who think the same, but who are lurking.

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09 Jul 2011 10:05 #23930 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Thanks for the encouraging words, Diet. Yeah, I understand what you mean, but it's still pretty disheartening.

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09 Jul 2011 13:40 #23932 by Woodclaw
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drmuttonchops3 wrote: Thanks for the encouraging words, Diet. Yeah, I understand what you mean, but it's still pretty disheartening.


Doc, I'm usually part of the "lurking majority" when it comes to your works, simply because I lack the proper frame of reference (I never watched the Fleischer's Superman).
Still I really hope you won't quit, as much as we are flattery-operated creatures (as LFan said) I think that shutting everything down isn't a good idea. As Diet said the vast majority of this community are lurkers, just consider the numbers. During the last workshop we had about 10 entries and 70 voters. Given that several regular posters didn't wrote any entry this leave us a potential pool of at least 40-50 lurkers. Meaning that about the 2/3 of this community are lurkers.
Granted, writing just for the sake of writing isn't as good as having a solid positive feedback, but that's part of the job's description.

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09 Jul 2011 22:09 - 09 Jul 2011 22:11 #23934 by ace191
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I would put things in a different perspective Doc. When I first started writing, one of the major reasons I did it was to give something back to guys like Marknew and D_K_C who had spent a lot of their time entertaining me. I was not nearly as good a writer as those guys nor will I ever be, but I was hopeful that I could produce something that they would enjoy reading more or less as "payback" for all of the "joy" they had given me.

I was really nervous at the start. I had some good ideas but I had trouble putting them across on paper. Some guy on the site named Argonaut seemed like a nice fellow and CLEARLY knew what he was doing so I asked him for help which he graciously offered. He edited much of my early work and gave me several good suggestions. In the process of doing all that, we discovered that we had several mutal interests including math and baseball (with an absolute loathing for the Bronx Bombers).

We partnered up several years ago and the rest as they say, is history.

Writing for me is an escape from my regular 7-7 job. I enjoy doing it, and I know that if I continue to do it and post it, others like yourself will continue to do so as well which benefits everyone.

There is an old joke about a six foot six lumberjack who goes into a brothel in Alaska.
One of the ladies pulls his shorts down in front of the other gals revealing his 3 inch penis.

All the ladies start laughing and ask, "Who do you expect to please with that?"

He answers back, "Myself".

There is another saying that only the people you love can hurt you. As long as the other authors on the site don't throw rocks at me for what I have posted (which has only happened once), I am very content.

And I will leave you with one last thought. Please excuse my Latin, but I think the phrase is "Illegitimus non carborendum" which loosely translates to, "Don't let the bastards get too you."


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10 Jul 2011 01:36 #23941 by argonaut
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That's "illegitimi non carborundum." It's not genuine Latin -- more like a joke. "Carborundum" looks like a Latin verb, but it's the name of an industrial abrasive -- so a better translation would be "Don't let the bastards grind you down."

Sorry -- four years of high-school Latin speaking.

Getting back to the subject of this thread --

I announced my retirement from writing a while ago, but like DS71, I came back. My reasons (for coming back) were pretty much the same as his: I enjoy dreaming up superwomen-related scenarios, and can't resist writing them down. Plus, I felt that I was getting better with every story I wrote (I cring when I re-read my first couple of submissions to the StoryBank). And of course, I would never have considered dissolving my partnership with Ace -- so that kept me from hanging up my keyboard.

DS71 brings up another good point: Ubergirl fiction is itself a "niche" genre, but many of us occupy "sub-niches" -- "good" supergirl, "bad" supergirl, Amazonian, petite, lesbian, straight ... So although I tip my hat to the many talented writers who've contributed to the StoryBank, I naturally prefer stories that push my particular buttons, and I think that's true for all of us. So I think any writer has to accept that his stories won't be to everyone's taste, and get as much mileage as he can from his "fellow spirits."

I guess what I'm saying, Dr. Muttonchops, is: Take some time off if you need to recharge your batteries. But if you enjoy this peculiar genre as much as I think you do, sooner or later you'll be back. At least I hope so. You've got my email address if you want a beta reader!

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10 Jul 2011 01:58 #23942 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Argo, I understand what your trying to say. However, I simply don't think I'll be back. All the other writers here are immensely more talented than me, and I don't see the point in wasting my energy and nights writing something that isn't going to get the feedback I was used to. Who knows? Maybe I'm better off writing for Deviantart and Fanfiction.net.

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10 Jul 2011 17:22 #23945 by Woodclaw
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drmuttonchops3 wrote: Argo, I understand what your trying to say. However, I simply don't think I'll be back. All the other writers here are immensely more talented than me, and I don't see the point in wasting my energy and nights writing something that isn't going to get the feedback I was used to. Who knows? Maybe I'm better off writing for Deviantart and Fanfiction.net.


Ok, this is absolutly b******t. Doc, if you think that you lack talent you're completly mistaken. I admit I think the same thing about myself and probably any other person who ever wrote anything on this site had (or has) the same idea. Truth is that putting imagination on paper is one of the hardest things to do. I'm never satisfied with my works and I don't think I'll ever be, every time I re-read them I find something to tweak or rewrite.
Feedback is a great thing, but it's only part of the equation.

I agree with Argo that pperhaps taking some off-time will be better, shutting the door for good might look appropriate at the moment, but in the end you might regret it (granted there's no rule about not allowing people to return).

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12 Jul 2011 04:41 #23951 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Just want to let everyone know that the climax to the story has been slightly re-written and updated. Give it a peek if you want!

There's also another bit of fantastic commmissioned artwork related to the story on the way as well!

Also, I've had some sense talked into me and I will not be leaving the site after all. In fact, I'm already thinking of another story as we speak! ;)

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12 Jul 2011 11:15 #23953 by ace191
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I learned a long time ago that the story is always better received with pictures, especially ones from TGK. I am sure I am not the only one that has down loaded to my hard drive Superwoman and the tank or Superwoman saving Louis from the monster.

Welcome back to the fight Doc!
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12 Jul 2011 11:37 - 12 Jul 2011 11:41 #23954 by Dr. Muttonchops
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I bet. Thank you very much! Personally, my fave pic is the one where Superwoman is emerging from the stock room after just having transformed. I just think she looks her sexiest there. ;)

Glad to be back in the fray! :)
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12 Jul 2011 19:00 - 12 Jul 2011 19:03 #23957 by argonaut
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drmuttonchops3 wrote: Just want to let everyone know that the climax to the story has been slightly re-written and updated. Give it a peek if you want!

There's also another bit of fantastic commmissioned artwork related to the story on the way as well!

Also, I've had some sense talked into me and I will not be leaving the site after all. In fact, I'm already thinking of another story as we speak! ;)

Okay, guys. The intervention's over. Thanks for coming.
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12 Jul 2011 19:04 - 13 Jul 2011 02:11 #23958 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Yeah, I'm fine now. :P
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13 Jul 2011 01:20 #23962 by JKIJ
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I'm glad that there will be more Superwoman stories to come. I do enjoy them and I feel that they're constantly improving. You're certainly a far more prolific writer than I am. Most of the time when I come up with an idea I can't flesh it out enough to do anything with it.

I've got to agree with Anon about thinking that others are more talented than me and never being totally happy with what I've written when I look back at it. In fact I was a bit worried that I'd written a complete turkey when the first vote for my workshop story was only one star. I enjoyed writing it, though.

With regards to this particular story, I love the change to the Doctor Strangelove image. I think it fits perfectly. And I also loved Luthor rocketing away after his scheme was foiled. Thanks for the effort you put in and I'm looking forward to whatever you write next.
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13 Jul 2011 03:25 #23964 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Thanks for the kind words, JKIJ. Although I don't believe anyone here could be worse at writing than me.

I really appreciate it. I hope that I'm able to entertain you with my next story.

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14 Jul 2011 17:25 #23982 by Woodclaw
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drmuttonchops3 wrote: Yeah, I'm fine now. :P


Great to have you staying Doc. Right now I have no time to comment about the story, I hope to post something in the weekend.

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14 Jul 2011 19:30 #23984 by inactive
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ace191 wrote: I learned a long time ago that the story is always better received with pictures, especially ones from TGK. I am sure I am not the only one that has down loaded to my hard drive Superwoman and the tank or Superwoman saving Louis from the monster.

Welcome back to the fight Doc!


Ooh, I had a question about that. With the new site, how do you insert pictures into a story. Is this something you have to arrange ahead of time with fats and lfan, or is it something that you can do at story submission time?

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14 Jul 2011 19:42 #23985 by fats
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DietSnapple71 wrote:

ace191 wrote: I learned a long time ago that the story is always better received with pictures, especially ones from TGK. I am sure I am not the only one that has down loaded to my hard drive Superwoman and the tank or Superwoman saving Louis from the monster.

Welcome back to the fight Doc!


Ooh, I had a question about that. With the new site, how do you insert pictures into a story. Is this something you have to arrange ahead of time with fats and lfan, or is it something that you can do at story submission time?


It's something you can do at the time of submission.

I'll put up a guide to doing that later on today.

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15 Jul 2011 03:37 #23991 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Anon wrote: Great to have you staying Doc. Right now I have no time to comment about the story, I hope to post something in the weekend.


Thanks, Anon. That would be nice!

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17 Jul 2011 13:19 #24004 by Woodclaw
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drmuttonchops3 wrote:

Anon wrote: Great to have you staying Doc. Right now I have no time to comment about the story, I hope to post something in the weekend.


Thanks, Anon. That would be nice!


Ok, I've finished reading the story (and looked at the incredible art on DA) I have to say that the new final is both better and worse respect to the original. DOn't get me worng I love the little Doctor Strangelove scene, I just think that it doesn't completly suit the Fleisher cartoon style.

As for the rest the story works like a clock, for the reader this highly episodic style is very easy to handle, there's very little previous knowledge involved and they packed a good deal of action, which makes them perfect as an occasional reading.
This last one is a bit more involved than usual and - as I already mentioned - is a little off respect to the standards, but probably I like better than most for these same reasons.

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24 Aug 2011 23:07 - 24 Aug 2011 23:13 #24549 by Dr. Muttonchops
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Here's the great pic ARTGK did for this story.
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24 Aug 2011 23:36 #24550 by eavatar
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Awesome art! TGK don't stop amaze and amuse me!

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