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26 Oct 2014 18:43 #38682 by shadar
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Cute video, but there is only one haircolor for Kara. Just ask Jimmy Olson, a very lucky guy. Talk about flying First Class.

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26 Oct 2014 18:59 #38683 by Woodclaw
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fats wrote: this video raises serious questions as to what hair colour SG should have.



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The video is nice, but I think that debating the hair color is rather pointless. By canon SG is blonde, but even if they make her a brunette, I would be interested in seeing if the writing, directing and acting are good, rather than the hair color.
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26 Oct 2014 20:48 #38684 by shadar
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I'd put a little more emphasis on the hair color than that.. Do we want to see a platinum blonde Wonder Woman? But I can't argue that a good writing, directing and the right actress are more important. Costume and hair color (the overall look) is the second tier. But to do her right, they need to work all the levels.

It might be fun if they did it backwards too. In an alternate future book (Elseworlds), the Supergirl (Lois and Clark's daughter) has short blonde hair but wears a long black wig as Supergirl. Not a very practical approach (wigs are not indestructible), but fun.

Here are a couple of images taken from that comic...

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26 Oct 2014 21:09 #38686 by shadar
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Here are the two panes from that comic that I like best.

Story is that Batman's son is getting married to Kara Kent, Lois and Clark's daughter. First scene starts with Bruce Jr. and his mother. The second pane is "heart of the fantasy" stuff.

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27 Oct 2014 12:57 #38689 by castor
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Hair color is important, i think in this regards.(which is a dum sterotypes but what ever)

Supergirl has blond hair...is that in American culture at least blond is associated with great bueaty, and also perfection effortless grace-also a little bit unintelegence, but who knows.

Kara has brown hair..and that's associated with kind the opposite qualities. Smart, not as beautiful and also a sense of putupon anxiety-the world doesn't go as smoothly.Its the female version of glasses.

In the comics this is easy enough to do-"Hey she has a wig"-cause i draw it.

In a weekly TV show wigs aren't as easy to do. I could see it look silly.

But who knows. The "I wear glasses" is silly n the comics-but they have done at least a dozen adaptations in movies where its mostly kind of worked. And the Glasses aren't really about disguising his identity as much as giving him clark a charcated.

But this is kind of the challenge of the show(at least i suspect its going to). Its about a character who is suppose to be the most beautiful woman in the world in one minute...and someone you probably wouldn't notice in the other(or at least believable that the other characters don't notice). Its an acting trick, that i suspect the show is to a degree going to sink or swim on. So maybe if a wig helps here.

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27 Oct 2014 15:58 #38692 by shadar
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castor wrote: Hair color is important, i think in this regards.(which is a dum sterotypes but what ever)

Supergirl has blond hair...is that in American culture at least blond is associated with great bueaty, and also perfection effortless grace-also a little bit unintelegence, but who knows.

Kara has brown hair..and that's associated with kind the opposite qualities. Smart, not as beautiful and also a sense of putupon anxiety-the world doesn't go as smoothly.Its the female version of glasses.

In the comics this is easy enough to do-"Hey she has a wig"-cause i draw it.

In a weekly TV show wigs aren't as easy to do. I could see it look silly.

But who knows. The "I wear glasses" is silly n the comics-but they have done at least a dozen adaptations in movies where its mostly kind of worked. And the Glasses aren't really about disguising his identity as much as giving him clark a charcated.

But this is kind of the challenge of the show(at least i suspect its going to). Its about a character who is suppose to be the most beautiful woman in the world in one minute...and someone you probably wouldn't notice in the other(or at least believable that the other characters don't notice). Its an acting trick, that i suspect the show is to a degree going to sink or swim on. So maybe if a wig helps here.



Agree with everything you said but one. Kara doesn't have brown hair. Kara Zor E is a Kryptonian born with blonde hair. Linda has brown hair.

One of the interesting aspects of the character (that I hope the TV show will explore) is that she's really three people. Supergirl of course. Linda Danvers, a mousy introvert who is trying to live a full life without anyone knowing too much about the girl inside. There has only been Linda the last ten years or so, or so I presume from the scant info we've been given. And like Clark Kent, presumably she deliberately underplays her abilities, talent and maybe even intelligence so she can hide in plain sight. And then there is Kara. A girl who has lost her homeward after growing up on it.

Imagine being the only person alive who grew up on Earth and remembers what it was like. Clark/Kal El was born there but didn't grow up there and has no memories of home. His home is Earth. Whatever he knows of Krypton is from crystals that might have twisted things around. Kara remembers everything about Krypton. She was 15 or 16 when she left. Everyone she knew there is dead.

That's a heavy burden to dump on a teenage girl, and one that the comics generally underplayed. What does it take to create PTSD? How about losing your entire planet and billions of people? Plus having a perfect photographic memory and the inability to forget? She would have problems. Guaranteed. Immersing herself in her new world and multiple identities is a way to expunge her demons, but they won't all go away.

Hopefully the writers consider this and handle it well. We need to see Linda, Supergirl and Kara as three aspects of the same girl.

Smallville gave us Kara, but underplayed Supergirl and Linda (who only showed up at the end). Yet they worked very hard to show the conflict between Clark and Kal El. That was central to the whole show. Kara was just a supporting character who showed up infrequently. She was a reminder to Clark/Kal El about what Krypton was like. And sometimes she was a little messed up.

In this new show, they can't (or at least shouldn't, IMHO) ignore that struggle. I want to see her struggling to make sense out of the three different aspects of her self. She is a 100% alien girl from another star, born and raised there, so her story is very different than Superman/Kal/Clark's. Even more, she's apparently been hiding who she truly is underneath Linda's disguise for a decade or so, and is now trying to "come out of the closet", so to speak. That should be very dramatic and emotional for her.

She may have been able to suppress memories and pretend to be one of us for the last ten years, but she isn't one of us. And she's going to face whatever that means in her life during this show. Or so I hope.
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27 Oct 2014 18:04 #38698 by TwiceOnThursdays
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The young girl who lost her entire world aspect to me is the most interesting one. That is a LOT Of Trauma. Her family, friends, her entire culture.

And it only survives in a guy who only barely gets it as Clark was raised by humans, and taught him self Kryptonian language and some culture, it's all alien to him. Talking to him is probably nostalgic for her -- she can use her native language -- and extremely depressing. She'll mention some pop music tune, or show, or famous book and he'll likely never have heard of it, of if he has, no really understand it. Just think of most Americans not getting British comedies, and then assume no one is around to explain it to you, and then multiply that by 1000.

To me that third person, Kara, is who she REALLY is. Clark is really a farm boy from Kansas. The other identities are going to be Kara's way of dealing. Linda is the camouflage and coping mechanism she invents to deal with her tragedy. To invent a new her, one that isn't broken.
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29 Oct 2014 21:44 #38763 by Albais
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OK, looks like the search of our Kara has begun:

dcxnetwork.tumblr.com/post/101279718505/...dling-the-casting-of

Good luck on it because part of success will be on find the right one for the role...

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30 Oct 2014 03:48 - 30 Oct 2014 03:54 #38765 by castor
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Albais wrote: OK, looks like the search of our Kara has begun:

dcxnetwork.tumblr.com/post/101279718505/...dling-the-casting-of

Good luck on it because part of success will be on find the right one for the role...


Actually if this tweet indicates that casting is starting today(and i have no logical reason why they would announce it now if it doesn't) that's surprising. If the show is going to start around this time next year i would think thy would do this sooner-or even be done before the announcement.

this is entirely a bad thing, but it does suggest that there casting around what they have in there head-writing, costume(which is probabbly being designed as we speak), special effects etc and not the other way around. This isn't necessairly a bad thing but will see.

As was mentioned in another thread-this is from one of the creators of No Ordinary Family, a show that had potential but i think one of its big problems was it felt a little designed and forced. Wanted to be a comedy and the say time It went dark and forboding--with a cast that wasn't really there for it.

You can be a comedy and dark and forboding-Shadars post earlier about focusing on her knoweldge of a world thats destroyed isn't a bad approach-but if the show is going to live and die-especially without a proper pilot so they can see what the actors can do before the show starts.

This can still work, and i can belive it probabbly will. But its very dependent on what DCX does. Right actor unkown or known will make the show.

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P.S for a non genre comparison. Watch the First season of Star Trek the Next Generation. It stars Patrick Stewart in a career making classic role....and hes not very good at all. He needed time to get into the part, and for the writers to write to his strength. In the first couple of seasons hes a bit all over the map. I do'n't think CBS is going to give supergirl that long.
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30 Oct 2014 05:53 #38769 by shadar
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castor wrote:

Albais wrote: OK, looks like the search of our Kara has begun:

dcxnetwork.tumblr.com/post/101279718505/...dling-the-casting-of

Good luck on it because part of success will be on find the right one for the role...


Actually if this tweet indicates that casting is starting today(and i have no logical reason why they would announce it now if it doesn't) that's surprising. If the show is going to start around this time next year i would think thy would do this sooner-or even be done before the announcement.

this is entirely a bad thing, but it does suggest that there casting around what they have in there head-writing, costume(which is probabbly being designed as we speak), special effects etc and not the other way around. This isn't necessairly a bad thing but will see.

As was mentioned in another thread-this is from one of the creators of No Ordinary Family, a show that had potential but i think one of its big problems was it felt a little designed and forced. Wanted to be a comedy and the say time It went dark and forboding--with a cast that wasn't really there for it.

You can be a comedy and dark and forboding-Shadars post earlier about focusing on her knoweldge of a world thats destroyed isn't a bad approach-but if the show is going to live and die-especially without a proper pilot so they can see what the actors can do before the show starts.

This can still work, and i can belive it probabbly will. But its very dependent on what DCX does. Right actor unkown or known will make the show.

Castor

P.S for a non genre comparison. Watch the First season of Star Trek the Next Generation. It stars Patrick Stewart in a career making classic role....and hes not very good at all. He needed time to get into the part, and for the writers to write to his strength. In the first couple of seasons hes a bit all over the map. I do'n't think CBS is going to give supergirl that long.


Maybe they will try to delay announcement of actors to avoid the questioning (and outright hating) that often surrounds actors for superhero movies. This is lower profile than a major movie, but still, there is always way too much noise around casting. I for one would like to be (hopefully pleasantly) surprised in the pilot.

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30 Oct 2014 05:56 #38770 by shadar
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While on this topic, I thought I'd share an old (1983) picture of Helen Slater working with the directors while on the set of the Supergirl movie. Given we're talking about making a Supergirl TV show.

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05 Nov 2014 03:30 #38860 by Rasa
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The casting descriptions for some of the characters have come out:

Now TVLine.com has revealed some of the key casting details for both Kara Zor-El (aka Kara Danvers) and...Kara's foster sister Alexandra “Alex” Danvers.

For Kara, they're looking for "Caucasian females, age 22 to 26, to play 24."

Kara at age 12 was sent from her dying home planet of Krypton to Earth, where she was taken in by the Danvers, a foster family who taught her to be careful with her extraordinary powers. After repressing said skills for more than a decade, Kara is forced to bust out her super moves in public during an unexpected disaster.

For Alex:

[She's] Kara’s gorgeous, brilliant, science-minded foster sister. Growing up, Alex was partly jealous of her sibling yet also fascinated by her abilities, prompting Alex to learn as much as she could about alien anthropology, sociology and culture. Today, Alex works for a secret government organization and, alongside her heroic sis, will face many challenges, both mundane and super.

As an update to the original story, TVLine.com has learned the details of four more Supergirl characters, including Super-verse photographer Jimmy Olsen and Cat Grant. Plus, two other names familiar to DC fans, Winslow "Wynn" Schott and Hank Henshaw.

James Olsen:

In his late 20s/early 30s, open ethnicity, James is a smart, worldly and attractive photographer for CatCo (see below). Though an alpha male, his salt-of-the-earth nature elicits a huge ol’ crush from Kara.

Cat Grant:

The project is eyeing females in their 40s, open ethnicity, to play the founder of CatCo, a media conglomerate that Cat built from the ground up. Kara (Supergirl’s mild-mannered alter ego) will work as a personal assistant to Cat, who is described as “J.Lo by way of Anna Wintour.”

Winslow "Wynn" Schott:

This twentysomething tech whiz/Comic-Con stalwart toils for CatCo as a programmer, unaware of his own potential. Unware of her secret, he carries a torch for Kara, whom he lives next door to.

Hank Henshaw: IGN Logo

As an upstart CIA agent, Hank grew obsessed with intergalactic intel. Now in his 40s and lording over the DEO (Department of Extra-Normal Operations), he is on high alert when Supergirl reveals herself, worried that her otherworldly abilities pose a threat to humankind.


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11 Nov 2014 15:14 #38983 by Albais
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And while we await for what has to come here's someone that has decided to do "His" version of pilot:

runawayman71.deviantart.com/art/Supergir...Show-Pilot-493885802

Not this only, if go onto Gallery section can find more writings and even some funny art with Kara, alone or with others. ABout this one well as for what i've read sonds very interesting, she wears uniform and do the good girl thing on a very nice way for me.

Not sure if will be made like this of course, this onto writers and not this poor Kara Catalonian fan :) :P

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19 Nov 2014 20:52 #39067 by somat
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I discovered this site, maybe it could be of interest in the near future, there is already a videoclip where the producer? gets interviewed.

www.supergirl.tv/

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25 Nov 2014 00:58 #39120 by castor
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Today it was announced that they where stopping productions future episodes of The Show Constanitine--at least temporarily. They are trying to spin it as they are thinking of doing a second season and on the fence...and who knows. the point is that its not looking good

also This morning i got a number of people on my facebook page, commenting how good last night episode was...specifically for one reason-this was the first time That john Constantine smoked. From the comics, John Constantine is a chain smoking bi sexual very foul mouthed paranormal investigator, nown for being aggresive and angry . In show, you see stabs at that--but well not that much. hes a lot more neutered a lot more tame, a lot more the problem and the sollution comes to him. However this episode(the sixth) is at least making stabs at correcting it, to make him proactive in his fight against evil.

However i mention the sixth episode for a reason. The sixth episode is traditonally in television the episode the creators first see public comment, first read the reviews, first see the message boards etc-when they first know how the show is doing. Its the episode where you active production is happening- as oposed to editing etc. You often in television see changes in a show then-subtle or pronounced-and well now is the case. They have made the effort to well change constantine more to what people expect. However as stated...well it looks a bit like the writing is on the wall.

I bring this up as regard to Supergirl...cause well you don't want that.

Obviously they are going to very very difrent shows. Thats a given-but there the root of something. there both based on popular comicbook properties that have long standing and established fandoms.

Constantine as it started out i think had the intention to be this edgy werid show that took a lot from horror comics that inspired it. However in practice in the first six episodes-some but not much. It felt very hampered by the fact that it was on a network television. He couldn't smoke-bad influence. He couldn't be all that edgy, the monsters not as goofy-and he couldn't quite cuss them out-that was the main feature of Constantine-he is a crafty unpleasent little bastard-and thats not quite what they could commit to.

This is in direct contrast to Gotham-a show that wants to be somewhere between Batman 66 and the Nolan movies. Somewhere. I don't particularly like its- very uneven. But its extremely successful-so obviously someone does-and to give its due-it feels like this is exactly what the creators want to put on the screen. The Flash is a goofy romp with touches of a bigger sci fi plot-and agians there delivering it. there is not a lot stopping it from being what it is. Its taking a lession i think from Arrow, which i think to a degree had a little bit more aspirations at first to be straight and gritty -but has lately made a point to hire a lot of actors from Dr. Who. They know where there bread is buttered.

Which is a point. I think its pretty clear that supergirl will be something interesting to us, in terms of costumes effects etc. But there is an impulse to play it safe. CBS does takes risk with content --but not to the extent something like the WB or Fox will. Because i will say this about Constantine. Its Close. if your arguing over smoking your not making a big argument-but it is one. A hair there, a pinch this and it could be pretty bad i think we would all agree. A lot of stuff like casting, and forming the supporting characters is not something you can change quickly if at all-they are stuck by how safe this is going to be.

I don't expect Shadar style stories about krillings and tons of sex-but yeah its wrong not to touch on it either- Supergirl as a rommantic character is as old as the character-as is her relationship her attitudes towards her power, and her slightly more detached and connected attitude to incredible powerful- a safe supergirl maybe borring if your not counting the number of crowbars she bends-and there is still the reluctance to show that. The show is going to be a bit of smoke and mirrors-you physically can't do a movie level special effects every week-but its how much smoke you show metaphorically thats an issue. a pinch here and there and....

But i am hopeful-i am reaonably sure if it doesn't completly tank in the ratings we will get a full season, and things may or may not get better in the tween. who knows. but its worth commenting. i hope they hit it out of the gates.

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25 Nov 2014 04:20 #39121 by TwiceOnThursdays
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I like Constantine -- and I hope it gets renewed.

You hit the nail on the head: if a character smoking is all that it takes for you to go "now they go it right!" they had it right before then. My biggest critique of the show is that Constantine is a bit too nice. (They softened the storyline of him using his friend to contain the demon.) But probably having him a -bit- more human might work to keep the show on the air. I hope that it makes it saving throw for another season, but it doesn't look good now.

I find Flash enjoyable but annoying. There is pretty much no point in the show where the writing is at all inspired, and it's all one trope after another. At this point I wish Iris wasn't on the show. It survives by managing to still be fun for all that, and Barry is project optimism and hope, instead of Dark and Dreary.

Gotham I think survives on a few things, mostly casting. I really like Penguin, and his storyline is great. I love Sean Pertwee as Alfred. I'm starting to not hate Bruce. But mostly the actors are great to watch chew up the screen. And I gave Gotham props for the arrest Jim Gordon/solve that problem immediately. I expected 2-3 episodes of mindless Drama over that. I wish Barbara was a better character.

For all the Penguin storyline, there are points in Gotham where you can just see the plot coming. "Where did Barabara Go?" I bet I know! Oh, look, she's listening to Jim's Phone message in bed with an artful shot! Yeah, I know what's coming.... and I'm not wrong.

Oh, the cinematography on Gotham is great. It does have a problem with tone, and it's not yet figured out what kind of show it wants to be.

As for Supergirl, I just hope that they take a good shot.

I don't see Supergirl as a Romantic Character. She's never really had a steady boyfriend or even dated much aside from Braniac -- and he's not in her normal timeline. Not even sure if she remembers him back in her normal timeline. There were a few boyfriends (a merman?) from the older comics -- but it also wasn't a huge point of the comics. In the Post Crisis coming back, I think she crushed on Grayson and there was a horrible "Power Boy".

This will likely be a big part of the show though -- a Romantic Interest is always important for these shows. Even Arrow now has a running Romance plot. (I give props for Felicity though, she's always been shown as a tough cookie, and she continues to be.) Flash started with one out of the gate. And Gotham now has one...and Jim was supposed to just get married.

We'll at least get one season -- so my suggestion to the writers and show runners is: Have a clear vision, fight for it, and try to get it to the screen. That's the surest method to show something people might want to tune in for and watch. Making the show fun can't hurt (aside from Flash, "Fun" isn't the template for the other superhero shows).

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29 Nov 2014 23:23 #39177 by shadar
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Sarge395 wrote: io9.com/the-new-supergirl-series-could-c...io9%2Ffull+%28io9%29


After you follow the link and read the article, set Show Pending on the comments and then read them. Some of the observations and comments by "civilians" are very interesting.

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01 Dec 2014 15:24 #39200 by shadar
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As a follow-on to the post I made this morning on the Star Wars thread, and to illustrate my point about teaser trailers, lets try an experiment.

Lets presume we are publicizing a new novel, movie (or TV show?) featuring Kara Zor El.

1) We have the usual trailers that show Kara interacting with the characters, but never in costume. We don’t see any super-feats in the clips, but we hear about them through the dialog with other characters (lifting a train onto the tracks, saving everyone). She’s always got brown or black hair in the clips. (Let’s assume we are leveraging off those Youtube audition videos from last week.)

2) We release a single publicity photograph of the actress playing Kara dressed and poised exactly as shown in the spoiler picture below. This “open shirt to reveal the S” meme has been playing since the earliest days of Superman, 70 years ago.

Warning: Spoiler!


Now, what happens.

A) The internet breaks as people go nuts about the “costume”, from every perspective imaginable. But the directors and cast won’t say if this is THE costume (or if she even has one that suggests Superman’s). This could be one of a dozen things she has in her wardrobe. Let the debate rage.

B) You set the stage for her having one special friend (outside her family) who knows her secret, and that’s the photographer she’s looking at when this picture is taken, hidden in the woods. Is he her boyfriend? Is she just goofing around? Is the guy Jimmy Olson?

C) You set a sexy vibe for the series, but certainly not over the top considering what else is on TV. Presumably the relatively unknown actress playing Kara is seriously hot. And for the very first time, she appears gloriously blonde here, unlike her dark-haired appearance in all the trailers.

D) Don’t officially answer any questions or engage in the online discussions. Let a thousand commenters and bloggers stir the pot.

I know it would work for me. How about you?

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01 Dec 2014 15:53 #39202 by castor
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Good idea Shadar,

But probabbly won't work for a number of reasons.

-if you film anything in public with the supersuit at all-people are free to take pictures of it and you wll. Its why spider man shoots tend to show the suits. See Banes costume, Spider man, The Flash-any number of movies. Living in LA its not hard to see people filming in the streets. This is particularly true in TV where they can't afford to shut down a street.

I suppose its possible that they could film all of the supergirl stuff in set-and thinking about it thats not impossible especially for a pilot-but probabbly .

-Tvs not exactly great at keeping things secret in general. Someone takes a picture.

-The idea of an old fashion costume would confuse publicty. Keep in mind i think the prevailing wisdom is that old fashioned costumes don't exactly photograph well made flesh.

the chest ript revel of the costume isn't a bad idea...but .

-Selling sex is a very tricky thing. The first image is going to be all over the Femenists blogs-the mary sues, Jezibels of the world. You don't want to give them anything to proactive I think a big part of the appeal is going to be to children-you don't want to frighten parents.

I do think at some piont in the first season or so where going to get a clothes riping scene-but maybe not that early.

In general i am very curious what CBS does with promoting the show.

I am reasonably sure the reason we are getting the show, sans pilot hyper sped up is, that when we first got a rumor that the scro[t was being looked at, it got a *lot* of publicty- Front page of Yahoo, Facebook evening news-and CBS could not afford to let that sit for a year if at all. To tempting.

But part of that is to keep that up at a low level for a year without peaking. its a challenge.

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01 Dec 2014 16:11 #39204 by shadar
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One possibility is to NOT film any scenes in costume until the show is launched. Just one blonde publicity photo in something resembling a costume.

Unlike movies, the serial nature of TV could work in our favor.

But yeah, maybe not this "costume".

castor wrote: Good idea Shadar,

But probabbly won't work for a number of reasons.

-if you film anything in public with the supersuit at all-people are free to take pictures of it and you wll. Its why spider man shoots tend to show the suits. See Banes costume, Spider man, The Flash-any number of movies. Living in LA its not hard to see people filming in the streets. This is particularly true in TV where they can't afford to shut down a street.

I suppose its possible that they could film all of the supergirl stuff in set-and thinking about it thats not impossible especially for a pilot-but probabbly .

-Tvs not exactly great at keeping things secret in general. Someone takes a picture.

-The idea of an old fashion costume would confuse publicty. Keep in mind i think the prevailing wisdom is that old fashioned costumes don't exactly photograph well made flesh.

the chest ript revel of the costume isn't a bad idea...but .

-Selling sex is a very tricky thing. The first image is going to be all over the Femenists blogs-the mary sues, Jezibels of the world. You don't want to give them anything to proactive I think a big part of the appeal is going to be to children-you don't want to frighten parents.

I do think at some piont in the first season or so where going to get a clothes riping scene-but maybe not that early.

In general i am very curious what CBS does with promoting the show.

I am reasonably sure the reason we are getting the show, sans pilot hyper sped up is, that when we first got a rumor that the scro[t was being looked at, it got a *lot* of publicty- Front page of Yahoo, Facebook evening news-and CBS could not afford to let that sit for a year if at all. To tempting.

But part of that is to keep that up at a low level for a year without peaking. its a challenge.

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01 Dec 2014 17:53 #39207 by Woodclaw
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shadar wrote: One possibility is to NOT film any scenes in costume until the show is launched. Just one blonde publicity photo in something resembling a costume.

Unlike movies, the serial nature of TV could work in our favor.

But yeah, maybe not this "costume".


This might backfire as well, depending on the kind of expectation the audience has. One of the things I hated most as a kid was to see some really cool publicity picture for a show, usually showcasing some really cool costume design, only to discover that it was used for 3-4 seconds per episode. A slow start might work to help building a convincing character but, unless you have a really good writer at hand, would be hard to sell a Supergirl pilot without touching some iconic bits of the character and the costume is most certainly among them.

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01 Dec 2014 18:11 - 01 Dec 2014 18:13 #39208 by castor
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Woodclaw wrote:

shadar wrote: One possibility is to NOT film any scenes in costume until the show is launched. Just one blonde publicity photo in something resembling a costume.

Unlike movies, the serial nature of TV could work in our favor.

But yeah, maybe not this "costume".


This might backfire as well, depending on the kind of expectation the audience has. One of the things I hated most as a kid was to see some really cool publicity picture for a show, usually showcasing some really cool costume design, only to discover that it was used for 3-4 seconds per episode. A slow start might work to help building a convincing character but, unless you have a really good writer at hand, would be hard to sell a Supergirl pilot without touching some iconic bits of the character and the costume is most certainly among them.


The more i think about it, the more actually this sounds like a good idea. Maybe not nothing-but very quick flashes in the first couple of episodes or signs shes there.

Something like the first man of steel Teaser where you see superman from way far away for a couple of seconds



That could be kind of neat- . For the last couple of months i have thought the first episode would end with supergirl-but if it began with her that could work to.See how she reacts to it, and the world at large.

Its probabbly not what there going to do...but
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01 Dec 2014 20:17 #39210 by shadar
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Agreed... the MOS teaser was awesome. What locked me in was the vertical flight where he goes supersonic. Wonderful effect. Absolutely gobsmacked me at the time.

castor wrote:

Woodclaw wrote:

shadar wrote: One possibility is to NOT film any scenes in costume until the show is launched. Just one blonde publicity photo in something resembling a costume.

Unlike movies, the serial nature of TV could work in our favor.

But yeah, maybe not this "costume".


This might backfire as well, depending on the kind of expectation the audience has. One of the things I hated most as a kid was to see some really cool publicity picture for a show, usually showcasing some really cool costume design, only to discover that it was used for 3-4 seconds per episode. A slow start might work to help building a convincing character but, unless you have a really good writer at hand, would be hard to sell a Supergirl pilot without touching some iconic bits of the character and the costume is most certainly among them.


The more i think about it, the more actually this sounds like a good idea. Maybe not nothing-but very quick flashes in the first couple of episodes or signs shes there.

Something like the first man of steel Teaser where you see superman from way far away for a couple of seconds



That could be kind of neat- . For the last couple of months i have thought the first episode would end with supergirl-but if it began with her that could work to.See how she reacts to it, and the world at large.

Its probabbly not what there going to do...but

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02 Dec 2014 00:01 #39214 by castor
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Man of Steel has its problems-a ton of them....

but the idea in it trailers-this kind of story of how a man turns into superman and how the world will react to him isn't one of them. It falls apart completly of course once you introduce Zod and everyone, but its a clever idea.

If they could make that into a show, and give enough of an idea of who she is and how she reacts to stuff, with gradually building up to the big action set peice and costume over several episodes in- that could be something. TV is actually pretty good if you let of doing a long buildup to stuff-and if you do enough to setup a mystery there is something to that.

Its probably not going to happen....but you know

There is something to shots of guys looking up at awe of something as in this.

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