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SGInc Workshop Poll for Authors or WannaBes

20 Mar 2007 21:53 #8756 by lfan
With the recent blight of silence, apathy, uncreativity, whatever you wanna call it, we were toying with the next workshop (long one) topic being "Collaborative Stories" with an open ubergirl slate for the creators.

Question is, does this seem appealing? Think it would help creativity of the author pool or just limit the number of possible contributions by a half?

I think at this point, most here have forged a dialog with people enough to pick and select partners (no limit of partners, but please use protection!!) thru back channels, but the question remains would you?

Ergo, the poll.....

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20 Mar 2007 22:02 #8757 by ultragirl
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I think it's a great idea.

I have someone in mind if we decide to move forward with it. 8)

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21 Mar 2007 04:09 #8763 by YAGS
My life has been a little too busy for writing lately, but working with a partner might be enough to motivate me to dedicate a little time to it.

So the story could be about anything ubergirl related, as long as it's written by more than one person?

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21 Mar 2007 08:19 #8765 by Woodclaw
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I'minterested, but I amn't sure if at right moment I'll be avaible, everything depends on one key factor when. Obviously if the workshop overlaps with my exams at the university I won't be avaible.

(formerly Anon, still Librarian)

"What is the point of having free will if one cannot occasionally spit in the eye of destiny?" ("Gentleman" John Marcone)

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21 Mar 2007 08:51 #8766 by mikeyfreedom
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Could be a great way to get some writers out of their shells.....I know I could use a partner once in a while...I know I can write decent action stuff, but struggle when I need to slow the pace down.

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21 Mar 2007 13:16 #8768 by somat
I would be onboard this ship, and maybe i also have already someone who could sail the seas.. :lol:

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21 Mar 2007 13:32 #8769 by lfan
With the concept I was thinking of, the ONLY 2 rules would be:

1) It's a collaboration
2) Ubergirl related

-- Can more than 2 people collaborate? Sure
-- Can a person collaborate with more than one person? Sure
-- Can it be about anything uber-related? Sure, but some topics are taboo here which hopefully people know by now.

Only one "definite" so far in the poll. This change anyone's mind?

So the story could be about anything ubergirl related, as long as it's written by more than one person?

YAGS

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21 Mar 2007 13:34 #8770 by argonaut
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This could be interesting. The possibility of a collaboration has come up in conversation with a few other writers. Nothing specific -- just "Hey-we-should-write-a-story-together-sometime" ...

I might be hesitant to enter into a partnership, however, out of fear that real-life obligations might prevent me from doing my share of the work in a timely manner.

That said, I'll consider any offers ...

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26 Mar 2007 16:14 #8796 by WhitePaw
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I'd come out of hiding for the right team-up, but you can't force magic like that. I predict 9 of 10 will be bitter flops. I'm sitting on the fence for my chance at #10. Ping me if you wish, but be warned: I've been picking at my latest work for going on 10 months now. Art school's been sapping my creativity these last couple of years, but I'm a much better scribbler for it.

How about an artist/writer team-up? Anybody into writing "picture books"? I'd team up with myself on that but doing both sides at once is just too much to ask.

It's all ink to me now. Ping me for either.

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27 Mar 2007 06:37 #8803 by YAGS
That's an interesting thought, WhitePaw. I hadn't considered writer/artist teamups.

As for being mostly flops, I'll disagree with you there. We've got a lot of writers around here who are pretty good, but not great. Or some that are good at ideas, but not execution, or vice versa. The right teamups are likely to produce results that are better than either person could produce alone. I'm not saying they'll all be winners, but I'd give odds that we'll come out ahead better than half the time, and maybe even get one or two true gems.

I think the key in getting a good collaboration is for everyone to be completely honest with themselves (and possibly each other) about their weaknesses. If you know what your weaknesses are, you can find a partner whose strength is your weakness and vice versa.

So are we doing this thing? I'd say we've got enough maybes in the poll to get it on. I'd recommend a longer deadline than usual, to give people time to pick partners and go back and forth doing the writing. Maybe make it 4-5 months instead of the usual 2-3.

YAGS

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28 Mar 2007 21:29 #8835 by xoronewithnature
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I'd recommend a longer deadline than usual, to give people time to pick partners and go back and forth doing the writing. Maybe make it 4-5 months instead of the usual 2-3.


I agree with most everything YAGS said, but especially this last part. Maybe it should be a parallel workshop, like the short strories and normal workshops are parallel. Writer team up workshop 3.1 or something like that.

In response to lfans concern: For me a little pressure inspires more writing. However, a workshop deadline doesn't do it as I can just say "I'll catch the next one," or "topics not my style" or the killer "who cares if I write a story anyways, who's going to like it, read it, etc., its not worth my time." However, if there's a living breathing person relying on me to write my part, these excuses kind of evaporate.

In short I'd love to try this. What would be interesting would be something like random pair-ups. True, they might end up being disasters, but they would certainly bring forth some unique stories.

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28 Mar 2007 22:04 #8836 by yaracyrrah
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As a co-writer I'd be a disaster, but if anyone has an idea (or half an idea) that could use some fleshing out, I've been known to be useful at that.

Perhaps instead of making *all* partnerships random, we could assign randomly only for people who want to play but don't have a specific partner in mind.

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28 Mar 2007 23:13 #8837 by Spulo
I'd be up for it, yes.

*waves*

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29 Mar 2007 04:04 #8845 by murdough
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same here

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29 Mar 2007 04:48 #8846 by angels
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I'm in.

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29 Mar 2007 05:01 #8847 by argonaut
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Me too.

I've got a partner and we've been hammering out an idea for a story.

Still open to additional invitations.

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29 Mar 2007 21:18 #8852 by conceptfan
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This sounds like it could be fun.

Although, it might be more fun though if people were forced to work with partners they didn't get on with at first. Maybe a zany wise-cracking, getting-results-is-more-important-than-following-rules young writer gets saddled with an older, more cynical, straight-down-the-middle by-the-book writer. Maybe they're of different ethnicities too, in case anyone is too stupid to understand that they are supposed to be very different types of person. Sure, they might not see eye-to-eye to begin with, but after a series of hilarious incidents they achieve success together and in the end have to admit (in a completely heterosexual way) that they've developped a secret, mutual respect.

Or what about random partners? Half the participants put their USB keydrive in a bowl and then the other half take turns pulling them out - whoever's drive they get, that's their partner...

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30 Mar 2007 18:13 #8854 by ace191
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Which Network are you pitching this Sit-Com to CF?

And by the way, Team Acenaut is off and running!

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31 Mar 2007 19:22 #8865 by YAGS
So it sounds like this is underway, even without an official announcement.

Should we start a separate "partners wanted" thread, or just keep adding to this one?

If you're advertising for a partner, I'd recommend including all of the following in your post:

1. Your strengths as a writer.
2. Your weaknesses as a writer.
3. A link to a sample of your writing, if you don't have any stories in the SWM story bank.
4. What type of stories you like to write (Good girl or bad girl? Ultra powerful or relatively low levels of power by SWM standards? Violent? Romantic? Comedy? Fan fiction of particular characters? etc)
5. What type of writer you think would be your ideal partner.
6. Time restraints that might affect your participation. For that matter, you might want to include your time zone if you think you might want to talk via online chat with your partner while you go.

Maybe I'm overthinking this. Put that down as #2 on my list. One of my weaknesses is that I tend to overthink things. That's probably the main reason I'm such a slow writer.

YAGS

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02 Apr 2007 20:24 #8884 by xoronewithnature
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Holy ugly urls, Batman!

Lets try that again. (Admin can you erase the previous post)?

I'll use YAGS template:

1. Your strengths as a writer.

I think I'm fairly proficient, and the pages I write tend to be high quality near finished product. I practice fairly solid storytelling techniques.

2. Your weaknesses as a writer.

Output - I'm a slow writer especially compared to some on this board with an average story length of less than 10 typed pages for long stories. If you need someone to produce endless streams of raw written material, I'm not your guy.

'Meh' Results - I've entered stories in 3 workshops and everytime the results seems to be more or less a collective shrug. I can't seem to find (or bring myself to write) stories that press the right buttons.

3. A link to a sample of your writing, if you don't have any stories in the SWM story bank.

One story stored offsite (1st chapter is in the SWM bank):
Wannabe Heroes

Three stories in the bank:
Asylum
Cop Story
Honeymoon

4. What type of stories you like to write (Good girl or bad girl? Ultra powerful or relatively low levels of power by SWM standards? Violent? Romantic? Comedy? Fan fiction of particular characters? etc)

Short answers:
Good girls
Relatively low power
I dunno... Romantic?
original characters

5. What type of writer you think would be your ideal partner.

I honestly have no idea.

6. Time restraints that might affect your participation. For that matter, you might want to include your time zone if you think you might want to talk via online chat with your partner while you go.

US central time, very irregular work schedule but almost always avaliable by email.

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