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The Superheroines Fandom

21 Sep 2009 22:44 #16775 by Random321
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So I am confident that super-hero's and super-heroines are actually more popular now than since I can recall. You might disagree with me. I’m curious about your thoughts on the state of the fan base.

I was inspired when I came across this:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=superheroine&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0


I’m wondering if anyone can explain the trend that this Google tool is showing? Is it wrong? Is it right? Does it mislead? Do people need to search less due to places like SWM? Is the graph messed up by a song (Forget searching "Supergirl" on google or youtube anymore)?

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22 Sep 2009 19:50 #16783 by tmppointer
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I choose "on the rise". But I think it is at very slow rate.

For the google thing, The Stats of this board may explain that much better.

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22 Sep 2009 20:24 #16786 by Random321
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I have to admit ~ since finding places like this as clearing houses ~ I tend to use search engines less and less ~ so if others are doing the same that might explain the trending.

I wonder if their is a broader trend down in searching on certain topics because the internet is more mature and people know where they are going.

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26 Sep 2009 03:31 #16808 by colt13
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True believers the trend is going up. Comic Books are not as meaningful as they were in the 40's, but most of the characters have been around long enough to inspire movies(except for Wonder Woman). Then the next generation will do a reboot like they did for Superman for all of the franchises.

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28 Sep 2009 12:30 #16829 by Lastleaf
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So I am confident that super-hero's and super-heroines are actually more popular now than since I can recall. You might disagree with me. I’m curious about your thoughts on the state of the fan base.

I was inspired when I came across this:
www.google.com/trends?q=superheroine&...;date=all&sort=0

I’m wondering if anyone can explain the trend that this Google tool is showing? Is it wrong? Is it right? Does it mislead? Do people need to search less due to places like SWM? Is the graph messed up by a song (Forget searching "Supergirl" on google or youtube anymore)?


I think the fan base is getting what they had wanted for a long time, just look at the current superheroine comics out there. Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Batwoman, the women at X-Men like Emma Frost are all well thought out and respectable in their respective series. Proper and consistent characterization, dialogues and overall good storytelling, all of the things wanted and needed for our female favorites are there. I can say the good times are here.

Has anyone been at comicbookresources lately, it has a new forum about Wonder Woman led by Gail Simone herself!

But the fan base are getting what they wanted. The fan base. The comic book medium, about superheronies, has been going very well but it hasn't translated or transitioned well to other mediums such as television, movies and games. The past mistakes on superheroines keep the big companies wary and there has been generally a lack of interest (they don't make enough money, I guess) that has put down many tv shows. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm opining about something I'm half a world away.)

I think they generally don't know what to do with the genre. Which is why I voted it's on the decline.

As for your slew of questions random321. I think the graph is right and points it graphs are really indicative of the state of the genre, it marks a humorous campy show about superheroines which isn't the kind of thing you need to be taken seriously. The show maybe good but does it help the superheroines? As for SWM, well admittedly I search less because of this site.

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04 Nov 2009 13:59 #17233 by lfan
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Interesting question! While our site here has gone through a lull of late and through the genre with fewer and fewer new stories and authors at SWM, XtSt, and DtV (and even fewer contributors on the forum), there has never been so much fan-generated content that I've seen in recent memory.

Going in my time-machine, I remember back in the infancy of this genre (circa early 2000's) there were basically two sites that catered to this genre/fetish/interest/whatever: Aurora Site (fiction) and MandiSteele (pics). Now, there are a slew of picture sites (albeit paid sites) and, with the increased access to video editing tools, there are actual ubergirl films and videos being produced by Steeles, ProjectSuperwoman, New-Goddess, and Superheroine Films with reports of other "supergirl" types of movies on the way from Mankillers, MartinBlasick (oour new resident here) as well as at least 3 others that I know of (and been sworn to secrecy). And that's not even mentioning newer picture sites like Hevenly Heroines, SSH, and the other Steele site. That would seem to indicate that the genre -- from a content perspective -- is on the rise.

As Lastleaf pointed out, the superheroine fan base has never been stronger with no less than 5-6 superstrong uberfemales helming their own books currently (or quite recently) -- Supergirl, Powergirl, Ms Marvel, Spiderwoman, Wonderwoman, She-Hulk. In addition, this characters have been at the forefront of several multi-arc "sagas" in their respective universes (Supergirl in World of Krypton, Ms M in Dark Reign). This would seem their popularity is on the rise in comicdom as well.

Why no TV or movies? I think like Lastleaf said, it doesn't tran$late!! Most often, its studio politics and exec producers deviating from the original vision (see Catwoman or NBC's Bionic Woman remake) to send it into a quick death spiral. More often than not, this "taints" the concept of a "female superhero show" and makes it a pariah! If we can learn nothing else about mainstream entertaianment and its viewership, the one lesson that is universal is the notion/belief that people are sheep. Find something good and keep rolling it out there till people puke then find something different. Examples? Umm....prime time game shows, reality TV, FX disaster movies (Armageddon/Deep Impact and Volanco/Dante's Peak and 2012/Day After Tomorrow), superhero movies, convoluted serial dramas (e.g. Lost, Flash Forward, V), talent competitions, etc.

A good, strong female show CAN be successful if done right (see Buffy) and given the right timeslot, but the writers IMO are their own worst enemy, much more crazy than they need to be. K.I.S.S.!! That doesn't mean pandering to a 2nd grade audience, but do we REALLY need to be mentally challenged with 4 flashbacks, 3 flashforwards, and 1 flash sideways per episode (Yes, Sarah Connor Chronicles, I'm talking to you!). I think someone just needs to get back to "good storytelling" with a female as a strong lead and it can work.

Now why are people NOT posting more (someone JUST asked me this the other day). Well, I dunno....I've wrestled with that question for years now. The interaction I must say is nothing like the fruitful (if not, useless :) ) conversation and banter we had on ubergirls.org/SGI. Its a shame....

But to answer Random's original question.....umm, what was it again?

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04 Nov 2009 20:42 #17249 by martinblasick
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Well, I am kind of a Johnny-come-lately here but I've always loved supergirls of any sort. Maybe the thrill of watching a hero girl heave a car into the stratosphere is a voyeuristic pleasure, not one that gets the keyboard clicking. :oops:

I like to look, too. And I'll try to remember to click the keyboard :)

I voted that superheroines are on the rise. That's using The Secret. Visualize and it will be.

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04 Nov 2009 20:52 #17250 by lfan
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Hopefully, we'll see Natasha throw a car into the stratosphere in celluloid very soon, Martin!

Again, welcome aboard!

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Well, I am kind of a Johnny-come-lately here but I've always loved supergirls of any sort. Maybe the thrill of watching a hero girl heave a car into the stratosphere is a voyeuristic pleasure, not one that gets the keyboard clicking. :oops:

I like to look, too. And I'll try to remember to click the keyboard :)

I voted that superheroines are on the rise. That's using The Secret. Visualize and it will be.

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04 Nov 2009 21:37 #17253 by inactive
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Now why are people NOT posting more (someone JUST asked me this the other day). Well, I dunno....I've wrestled with that question for years now. The interaction I must say is nothing like the fruitful (if not, useless :) ) conversation and banter we had on ubergirls.org/SGI. Its a shame....

But to answer Random's original question.....umm, what was it again?


That's a really tough question. I registered an account on this forum shortly after it started, 4(?) years ago, but my first post was less than a year ago. I was nervous about posting because (a) I am naturally quite insular, even online, and (b) I didn't think I had anything to contribute.

I didn't post until I had submitted something to the storybank and somebody said something nice about it.

I worry about posting too much, in fact. After I had posted my sixth crappy photomanip in two days this weekend, I went into a funk about "spamming" the board with my nonsense.

I think there are statistics on online forums in general that of registered users, 90% remain lurkers forever, and most of the activity comes from 1% of registered users.

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05 Nov 2009 01:54 #17259 by Sarge395
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Could it be that lovers of superstrong, uberpowerful, flying goddesses are a bit submissive when it comes to women and maybe other humans and simply like to be reactive vs proactive (i.e. active posters?)

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