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Workshop - Spring 2016

01 May 2016 19:00 #47511 by fats
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hi all,

This thread is for discussions on the new workshop

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01 May 2016 21:53 #47512 by inactive
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Time to BRAINSTORM!

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01 May 2016 22:33 #47513 by argonaut
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Should the description read: "but discovers that she must leech the life force of normal people to keep and maintain her new-found power"?

Or does "they" refer to the girl and the "person of power" she gained her powers from?

I like the "power transfer" theme -- I've written a couple of stories along those lines -- but by adding on the "leeching" device, you've made the topic unduly restrictive. I think a simple "Power Transfer" theme would allow for a greater variety of submissions.
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01 May 2016 22:38 #47514 by fats
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argonaut, you are correct, I missed that when I typed it.

will edit it.

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01 May 2016 22:42 #47515 by inactive
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The leeching idea does strike me as a little too specific. I'd like to be able to decide on my own "downside". I'll manage.

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01 May 2016 22:54 #47516 by fats
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on the issue of the leeching idea, I added that and got approval from DKC, it's an idea that we have never explored in any great depth on this site.

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01 May 2016 23:05 #47517 by inactive
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fats wrote: on the issue of the leeching idea, I added that and got approval from DKC, it's an idea that we have never explored in any great depth on this site.

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Fair enough. But, Devil's Advocate, there are probably a hundred other ideas that we haven't explored as a downside for power transfer.

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01 May 2016 23:06 - 01 May 2016 23:40 #47518 by Woodclaw
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argonaut wrote: Should the description read: "but discovers that she must leech the life force of normal people to keep and maintain her new-found power"?

Or does "they" refer to the girl and the "person of power" she gained her powers from?

I like the "power transfer" theme -- I've written a couple of stories along those lines -- but by adding on the "leeching" device, you've made the topic unduly restrictive. I think a simple "Power Transfer" theme would allow for a greater variety of submissions.


This has been the subject of a lot of discussions behind the scenes, not to mention one of the main reasons the workshop launched a bit later than planned. The generic "Power Transfer" theme felt too broad and vague in and of itself, so we worked to make it more specific and it's possible we overdo it.

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02 May 2016 11:16 #47520 by Dru1076
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It's a challenging theme, no doubt. Loving a challenge as I do.... Count me in.

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02 May 2016 17:42 #47523 by njae
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Woodclaw wrote:

argonaut wrote: Should the description read: "but discovers that she must leech the life force of normal people to keep and maintain her new-found power"?

Or does "they" refer to the girl and the "person of power" she gained her powers from?

I like the "power transfer" theme -- I've written a couple of stories along those lines -- but by adding on the "leeching" device, you've made the topic unduly restrictive. I think a simple "Power Transfer" theme would allow for a greater variety of submissions.


This has been the subject of a lot of discussions behind the scenes, not to mention one of the main reasons the workshop launched a bit later than planned. The generic "Power Transfer" theme felt too broad and vague in and of itself, so we worked to make it more specific and it's possible we overdo it.


I aggree in that the leeching part makes the theme too restrictive. I can't really see how "Power Transfer" could be considered too vague.

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02 May 2016 20:49 #47525 by lfan
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njae wrote: I aggree in that the leeching part makes the theme too restrictive. I can't really see how "Power Transfer" could be considered too vague.


Doesn't make it restrictive, IMO, only challenging, like Dru said. There are more than a couple of ways to go with this and things to explore (e.g. is her power additive each time or simply recharge and reuse ala Rogue.....does she relish in the ability, is somewhat reluctant, or view it as a curse.....is the power transfer restrictive to certain traits or abilities or does "everything come over"), and I like the aspect of the morality coming into play (which seems like it was the focal point of DKC's topic).

Plus, I feel there is ample time to think up something creative to make each entry personalized and unique. Game on!

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02 May 2016 21:49 #47526 by inactive
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lfan wrote:

njae wrote: I aggree in that the leeching part makes the theme too restrictive. I can't really see how "Power Transfer" could be considered too vague.


Doesn't make it restrictive, IMO, only challenging, like Dru said. There are more than a couple of ways to go with this and things to explore (e.g. is her power additive each time or simply recharge and reuse ala Rogue.....does she relish in the ability, is somewhat reluctant, or view it as a curse.....is the power transfer restrictive to certain traits or abilities or does "everything come over"), and I like the aspect of the morality coming into play (which seems like it was the focal point of DKC's topic).

Plus, I feel there is ample time to think up something creative to make each entry personalized and unique. Game on!

ElF


I have to respectfully disagree. I think there's a fine line between restrictive and challenging and the addition of the specific leeching from humans idea crosses the line.

Is the intent of the workshop to challenge writers to work within a set of restrictions, or is it to encourage writers to explore a theme? If it's the former, then fine. Game on, as you say. If it's the latter, then I personally think we've gone beyond theme to a specific scenario.

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02 May 2016 22:12 - 02 May 2016 23:08 #47527 by Lulu
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I usually don't write much here in the forum (or in general), though I really wanted to participate in the workshop this time. The power-transfer idea sounded like a nice idea and also capable for someone with limited writing-capabilities like me though I personally don't like the idea of a supergirl leeching and (possible) killing other people in the progress of getting super, so I sadly have to decline this years participation. But I wish all writers good luck and awaiting eagerly the results. :)
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02 May 2016 22:55 #47529 by shadar
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Leeching...??

I think I'll take a pass on this workshop, and wait for the Winter theme.

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02 May 2016 23:10 #47531 by Markiehoe
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Yeah, this "leeching" thing just goes against the grain.
Sounds like Vampire fiction.
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02 May 2016 23:25 #47532 by circes_cup
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If you've got a great idea for a story, something that you think people would enjoy, and it doesn't fit the exact theme of the workshop, then why not write the story anyway? The posting would simply sit in the library rather than the workshop part of the library, but who cares? I hear that the cash prize is the same ;)
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02 May 2016 23:28 #47533 by Woodclaw
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circes_cup wrote: If you've got a great idea for a story, something that you think people would enjoy, and it doesn't fit the exact theme of the workshop, then why not write the story anyway? The posting would simply sit in the library rather than the workshop part of the library, but who cares? I hear that the cash prize is the same ;)


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02 May 2016 23:31 - 02 May 2016 23:33 #47534 by Dru1076
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There are a lot of ways to go with this. Sure....vampires are a pretty obvious path, but not the only one. Within the framework of the theme is a multitude of possibilities. I already have a pretty good twist in mind. If the theme is changed, I wont mind as long as it is still open to the idea I've got.

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02 May 2016 23:33 #47535 by inactive
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circes_cup wrote: If you've got a great idea for a story, something that you think people would enjoy, and it doesn't fit the exact theme of the workshop, then why not write the story anyway? The posting would simply sit in the library rather than the workshop part of the library, but who cares? I hear that the cash prize is the same ;)


Sure. Of course. But taken to its logical extreme, what's the point of having the workshop in the first place?

The idea is to inspire writers to explore a particular theme, isn't it? If the theme doesn't inspire, then saying that you can write a non-workshop story regardless is kind of a cop out. IMO.

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02 May 2016 23:42 #47536 by Woodclaw
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geekseven wrote:

circes_cup wrote: If you've got a great idea for a story, something that you think people would enjoy, and it doesn't fit the exact theme of the workshop, then why not write the story anyway? The posting would simply sit in the library rather than the workshop part of the library, but who cares? I hear that the cash prize is the same ;)


Sure. Of course. But taken to its logical extreme, what's the point of having the workshop in the first place?

The idea is to inspire writers to explore a particular theme, isn't it? If the theme doesn't inspire, then saying that you can write a non-workshop story regardless is kind of a cop out. IMO.


I can't talk for everyone here, but for me having a workshop is something that helps me focusing my idea in a specific direction, so that I can achieve a very specific effect. I know it's not universal, but for me it works having a very specific theme to work with helps me brainstorming more efficiently and write in a more coherent way.

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