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Variety: Supergirl may switch to CW on renewal

20 May 2016 09:36 #48026 by Woodclaw
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Brad2 wrote: OK. This one's on crossovers. I recall seeing a thread here (on this site) on how one of the CW shows would get a Powergirl type character (this was before Supergirl was confirmed to be on the CW). Given that fact, and that Powergirl is basically an older version of Supergirl, I don't see the need for a crossover between the Supergirl show and another show that already has a Powergirl character.

Seems a bit redundant. Seems very much like they're saying "Yay! Lets do crossovers for the sake of crossovers, and who the hell cares if there's any real need for them or not!" This doesn't bode well, and demands an explanation from those who were saying "Having all the writers in the same spot should improve the writing".

Why would they need a crossover episode where Supergirl appears on a show that already has Powergirl? Oh, and when I asking this question, I mean why would they do it storyline-wise? I know they might do it as a way to boost ratings/viewership if one of the show's viewership is tanking. (By that logic, they'd need to do A LOT of crossover episodes if Supergirl's writing doesn't improve from what it was in season 1).

I'm also curious about the fourth CW show. I know there's Supergirl, Arrow, and the Flash, and that all three revolve around their main characters (supposedly), but I don't know much about what the fourth one is about.

Thoughts?


Considering that both Flash season 2 and Legends of Tomorrow work on the concepts of dimensional travelling and time-travelling, I think it's not unreasonable to have both Supergirl and Power Girl crossing path at some point either as alternate Earths counterparts or as two points in the same character's timeline. How good this is going to be only time will tell: I loved the fact that they included Jay Garrick in Flash season 2, but I was very disappointed on how they handled him most of the time.
Aside from that, given that they're trying to establish a shared TV-series based universe, I don't know what might constitute a "unncessary crossover". If you have many different characters playing arund in the same narrative universe they're bound to met in some way, shape or form, even if only as passing references.

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21 May 2016 00:55 #48042 by Brad2
What I meant by unnecessary was unnecessary to the plotline of the story being told on that show. For example, given that Supergirl had already beaten Livewire in a previous episode, I feel that she should have had no problem defeating her again. Then she'd only have the Silver Banshee to worry about, and she was able to beat opponents before when it was one on one. Even with one on two, I don't think she should have needed the Flash's help (and he didn't fare much better than her anyway).

So, to my mind, episode 18 of Supergirl season 1 would be an example of an unneeded crossover (as Supergirl shouldn't have needed the Flash's help to win). Might have been fun to have him there, but he wasn't really needed.

Also, having a multiverse isn't "the same universe" to my mind, as you'd need an unusual event to get characters to cross from one part of the multiverse to another.

And, having Powergirl and Supergirl would be unnecessary as both have the same power set. So, tactically, the only way I could see Powergirl being useful is if she were to act as a mentor. For example, they could have an episode (or part) where Powergirl teach, es Supergirl how to deal with kryptonite (that its only a threat at short range, and you can stay out of range, and possibly use your powers at a distance).

Again, I don't like the idea of crossovers for the sake of crossovers. It has to fit into the overall storyline of the show the crossover occurs on.

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21 May 2016 15:20 #48047 by castor

Brad2 wrote: What I meant by unnecessary was unnecessary to the plotline of the story being told on that show. For example, given that Supergirl had already beaten Livewire in a previous episode, I feel that she should have had no problem defeating her again. Then she'd only have the Silver Banshee to worry about, and she was able to beat opponents before when it was one on one. Even with one on two, I don't think she should have needed the Flash's help (and he didn't fare much better than her anyway).

So, to my mind, episode 18 of Supergirl season 1 would be an example of an unneeded crossover (as Supergirl shouldn't have needed the Flash's help to win). Might have been fun to have him there, but he wasn't really needed.

Also, having a multiverse isn't "the same universe" to my mind, as you'd need an unusual event to get characters to cross from one part of the multiverse to another.

And, having Powergirl and Supergirl would be unnecessary as both have the same power set. So, tactically, the only way I could see Powergirl being useful is if she were to act as a mentor. For example, they could have an episode (or part) where Powergirl teach, es Supergirl how to deal with kryptonite (that its only a threat at short range, and you can stay out of range, and possibly use your powers at a distance).

Again, I don't like the idea of crossovers for the sake of crossovers. It has to fit into the overall storyline of the show the crossover occurs on.



I think cross overs can be fun when you do it well. They have been part of comics since the 40s and its a good way to move audiences around and play with it.

That said a super episode isn't that interesting to me-its a great way to get lost when you have 20 characters on screen at once. It gets muddled in a 44 minute episode

I was much more curious to see Green Arrow. For better or for worse, Green Arrow feels a lot like a way to do Batman without the baggage the character has, done in a manner that similar to the kind of dark knight brood(though not as dark).

Supergirl is a pretty damm light show, in a lot of ways similar to Superman. Hope optomism bright lights a heroine whose desire to make right saves the world.

As a guy who liked BvS, its a movie that picks its sides-its a very dark gloomy movie, that never attempted to show optomism and joy. To do an episode where they explore it either from a neutral term or suprise a possitive and bright one could be neat.

hope they still do that.

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23 May 2016 16:36 #48065 by andyf
WGN in Chicago. starting Sep 1, will no longer be CW's Chicago affiliate. CW is moving to the Fox owned WPWR. WGN has often bumped CW shows for Bulls, Blackhawks, Cubs and White Sox games.

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23 May 2016 17:44 #48066 by brantley
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But will it be synergy, or just clutter?

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07 Jul 2016 15:35 #49013 by lfan
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07 Jul 2016 17:36 #49018 by Markiehoe
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That's cool.
I kinda like binge watching.

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