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Supergirl Pilot Thread (and reaction)
14 May 2015 13:56 #41997
by lfan
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14 May 2015 17:16 #42004
by TwiceOnThursdays
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I have to say the music is the weakest part of this. Better choices and this would have knocked itself even higher (but make it makes it score better with the target demo).
That said, I really like what I see so far. "adorkable" is the right word to describe Melissa Benoist, and she really does sell both Kara and Supergirl. It might seem odd, but she has great shoulders, which does make her look awesome in her Supergirl uniform. I love the entire expression during the walk into bullets thing.
The action scenes are great, I can't wait to see more and see them in context.
I had been a bit worried about the costume -- it was shown as dark in the promo shots, but it looks really great here. And, as I suspected, when it's being worn and moved in, it looks great. I'm still not quit sold on the S-Logo, but she sells it.
Not sure about all the personal dynamics of the show, we'll have to see them in place more. From the plot we'd heard, it seemed like her sister might have been jealous/mean, and some of that comes through here -- but she also is supportive at the end of the trailer. So not a lex author/bad girl vibe, I think I'll like the more positive interaction shown here.
I like not having the stupid drama over secret ID, but it also seems like a bit too many people know who she is. Also, I hope she doesn't stay a beat down lackey at work for long. I also don't think we know enough about Cat Grant to really judge her from this. I hope she has more nuance in her character on the show.
And it seems REALLY odd that Superman would send James Olson to give her his baby blanket as a cape, and tell her what he things. It seems very ... cold. He's literally the only tie she has to her ENTIRE HOMEWARD, and he sends a messenger boy? I guess there is a them "Superman is a dick", but I don't think this is the message they were trying to send.
I also hope they explore a bit about her being really alien, far more than Clark is. In a very real sense Clark was born on Earth. Kara was born on Krypton. I could see her burying that part of her thru trauma. And now she'll be dealing with some of that, and that could make some interesting stories. I suspect that they'll make ti seem all good. I hope not, I hope for something more than just some angsty "My planet blew up" but some real indication of what it's like, and how she had to learn to cope. Still the tone is light, so it's also a thing we should only see in more quiet moments, little beats to show that her being positive and happy is a sign of great emotional strength.
It's also something that when she's being positive and happy, a character filled with light, that when she meets some of the more... angsty fellows and they take her for some bubblehead cheerleader, she can slap them down. "Oh, boo hoo. Your parents were shot in an alley and you saw it. I saw my ENTIRE PLANET explode."
That said, I really like what I see so far. "adorkable" is the right word to describe Melissa Benoist, and she really does sell both Kara and Supergirl. It might seem odd, but she has great shoulders, which does make her look awesome in her Supergirl uniform. I love the entire expression during the walk into bullets thing.
The action scenes are great, I can't wait to see more and see them in context.
I had been a bit worried about the costume -- it was shown as dark in the promo shots, but it looks really great here. And, as I suspected, when it's being worn and moved in, it looks great. I'm still not quit sold on the S-Logo, but she sells it.
Not sure about all the personal dynamics of the show, we'll have to see them in place more. From the plot we'd heard, it seemed like her sister might have been jealous/mean, and some of that comes through here -- but she also is supportive at the end of the trailer. So not a lex author/bad girl vibe, I think I'll like the more positive interaction shown here.
I like not having the stupid drama over secret ID, but it also seems like a bit too many people know who she is. Also, I hope she doesn't stay a beat down lackey at work for long. I also don't think we know enough about Cat Grant to really judge her from this. I hope she has more nuance in her character on the show.
And it seems REALLY odd that Superman would send James Olson to give her his baby blanket as a cape, and tell her what he things. It seems very ... cold. He's literally the only tie she has to her ENTIRE HOMEWARD, and he sends a messenger boy? I guess there is a them "Superman is a dick", but I don't think this is the message they were trying to send.
I also hope they explore a bit about her being really alien, far more than Clark is. In a very real sense Clark was born on Earth. Kara was born on Krypton. I could see her burying that part of her thru trauma. And now she'll be dealing with some of that, and that could make some interesting stories. I suspect that they'll make ti seem all good. I hope not, I hope for something more than just some angsty "My planet blew up" but some real indication of what it's like, and how she had to learn to cope. Still the tone is light, so it's also a thing we should only see in more quiet moments, little beats to show that her being positive and happy is a sign of great emotional strength.
It's also something that when she's being positive and happy, a character filled with light, that when she meets some of the more... angsty fellows and they take her for some bubblehead cheerleader, she can slap them down. "Oh, boo hoo. Your parents were shot in an alley and you saw it. I saw my ENTIRE PLANET explode."
14 May 2015 19:26 #42016
by lfan
If the complaint is that she seemed to master flight too quickly, a "more realistic, slower learning curve" alternative HAS been done before -- Smallville! It took him 10 seasons to learn how to fly.
ElF
Replied by lfan on topic Supergirl Pilot Thread (and reaction)
Woodclaw wrote:
shadar wrote: There are some points I don't like... for one, when she's talking to Alexa and she says she can lift a bus and is bulletproof and "I can fly... I think" was a problem for me. Not a problem with the shows drama or storyline or characters and actors, but its premise.
Its the idea that she's never tried out her Kryptonian abilities. Totally implausible.
She knows her history and origin, she certain sees and hears about her cousin all the time, but she's never tried to fly? How could anyone growing up on Earth with those astounding abilities never even try to use them. That's insane. Or at the very least, totally implausible. Any teenage girl (if not younger) will explore her limits.
But it's a premise of the show that will quickly be behind us, and most comic books have bizarre premises and backstories. But this one is weak. If she was so traumatized by Krypton's destruction and so smothered in her foster home as to not even try out her abilities, then she'd be a very scarred, screwed-up young woman. Instead, she seems quite together.
Further, once she does try to fly (a few awkward bounces along a dark alleyway) she suddenly is so good at it that she can lift a crashing airliner over a bridge and everything else. I know, its a comic book, but still.
Clark's inability to fly in Smallville was also bizarre, but plausible. He simply didn't believe he could do it. He tried and failed all the time. Kara in Supergirl, in contrast, believes she can, but she just hasn't bothered to try until her sister is in trouble.
Try to put yourself in her place. If you were Kryptonian, would you grow up into your mid-twenties without even TRYING to use your birth abilities? It's inconceivable.
Anyway, this is a comics-inspired show, so these kinds of nonsensical things will necesssarily be part of it. But I hope they come up with a better explanation for her restraint than we've seen so far.
Shadar
I'm going into this from a slightly different perspective Shadar. In many modern retolds of Superman's story ever since the original Crisis the assumption is that flight is one of the last, if not the last ability that a Kryptonian develops under a yellow sun. As such we can assume that Kara had tried in the past, but failed because he cells weren't charged enough. She knows she should be able to fly because Clark flies, but she hasn't been able to do it yet. She knows she has other abilities because she had tested her limits before -- as you suggest -- but flight is still an unknown quantity for her.
On the subejct of her being able to master her powers in a matter of minutes ... this is unfortunately very in line with the source material. As far as I remember the only time someone remembered that there should be difficulties for a Kryptonian, other than Clark, to master his extra powers was in "Man of Steel".
If the complaint is that she seemed to master flight too quickly, a "more realistic, slower learning curve" alternative HAS been done before -- Smallville! It took him 10 seasons to learn how to fly.
ElF
15 May 2015 03:55 #42027
by AuGoose
Replied by AuGoose on topic Supergirl Pilot Thread (and reaction)
So how many episodes do you think we'll get before she re-heats her boss' latte with heat vision after being unavoidably delayed by a bit of heroing?
I'm guessing 3. I can just feel it coming.
I'm guessing 3. I can just feel it coming.
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