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30 Oct 2015 02:10 #44864 by SupergirlTV
We've got a gallery of all the released photos for episode 3 as well

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04 Nov 2015 08:15 #44991 by SupergirlTV
Found this amazing trailer for episode three from the Global channel. We get to see Superman again! www.supergirl.tv/blurred-superman-to-save-kara

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10 Nov 2015 05:26 #45074 by YAGS
Overall, another ok episode, but not great. The main characters are mostly likeable, but it still just feels like it's all setup and training, and we'll have to wait for the plots to get interesting.

And again, I'm not a fan of how much of the action has looked, though it was a little better this time, I guess. At least with the falling pillar scene, things slowed down enough for the viewer to be able to take in what was happening. For that matter, the car door thing worked for me, too. I guess I'm still bitter about last week's kryptonian cat fight having such poor cinematography.

I know it's a good thing that the show's focusing on her, and leaving Superman out of it, but I actually liked how they used him here. He's a part of her life, even if he's not the focus of the show. Having her chat with him this way once in a while is appropriate, as long as it's not done too often.

At least they're establishing that they do actually talk to each other once in a while. In the pilot episode, she asked Jimmy Olson what Superman's like in person, and told her secret to Winn instead of going to the one person on Earth who would actually be able to relate to what she was going through. I was starting to wonder if he'd just dumped her with the Danvers when she arrived on Earth and never talked to her again.

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10 Nov 2015 11:20 #45076 by five_red
My review:

This was a stronger episode than either of the previous two, largely because the show seems to have hit its stride now, and the special effects were kept within the realm of what tv effects can do competently -- in other words, the wire work was limited largely to just getting from A to B.

But the episode was not without its faults. Including one major fault in particular...!

On the plus side: the story was well paced throughout, keeping a steady momentum while shifting between comedy and action more effortlessly than episode two. The main cast all turned in solid performances, and Melissa Benoist continues to improve on the high standards she set in the pilot, as she settles into the character. Cat Grant was better written this episode, with most of her best comedic material now coming from something other than bitchy put downs (the bizarre choice of beverage, the phantom buzzing overhead, etc.) Maxwell Lord became, almost from his first major scene, probably the most interesting supporting character on the show so far, largely because Peter Facinelli chose to give an understated, more natural, performance, avoiding any suggestion of melodrama (Laura Benanti, please take note!) Finally, Reactron was well realised visually, if a little two dimensional in terms of character.

On the down side: the recurring joke about Kara thinking Cat has realised her secret identity is wearing a little thin now -- perhaps give it a break for a few episodes? There's hardly been a scene between the who without something being said. It is hard enough to suspend disbelief that a woman as successful as Cat Grant (and a top gossip columnist too!) couldn't see past the glasses, without being reminded of how blind the character is at fifteen minute intervals.

Although visually Reactron worked well, his motivation and his powers were a little inconsistent. He has a pathological hatred of Superman, so he attacks Superman's cousin Supergirl -- fine! Got that! But then why does Reactron run off when Superman actually shows up? Kara is semi-concious, she poses no threat.

Also, Reactron's blast can send Kara flying when it hits her straight in the chest, so why does she stand around with feet rooted to the ground, like the proverbial barn door inviting him to zap her all the time? And why is it that a shot to the chest sends Kara reeling, but a shot to the palm of her outstretched hand merely pushes her slowly back a few inches? How does that work..?!?

The biggest problem with this episode, however, was Superman.

They tried to make Superman's appearance a weakness in James Olsen's character, rather than Kara's -- very good idea. But the way they did it was so sloppy that it backfired, and totally undermined Supergirl as a hero. Firstly, if they didn't want Kara to be undermined then the viewers needed to believe that she wasn't really beaten in the junk yard -- in other words, the viewers had to think Supes had stupidly jumped in before Kara had had a real chance to prove herself. But that isn't what happened; so the viewers are left with the impression that Jimmy was totally correct to call in Superman. Secondly, the IM chat at the end was supposed to be a cute little heart-to-heart between family, with Superman telling Kara how proud he is of her. But on screen it came off as incredibly patronising (that's the problem with internet chat, someone's true meaning often gets lost in translation.)

The impression I think they wanted to give was of a hero (Supergirl) struggling to find her feet, but who has the support of the people around her, including her absent cousin. The impression they actually gave (as I saw it) was of a hero who totally failed, and had to be rescued by the cousin, but is then patted on the head and told what a good little girl she is for trying, anyway. :(

Okay, so that one big red-n-blue screw up shouldn't overshadow what was, for 90% of its running time, a very entertaining and solidly written piece of superhero drama. If this is an example of the kinds of episodes we'll get in future (Supes thing aside) then CBS' Supergirl should be a really enjoyable ride.


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10 Nov 2015 12:46 #45078 by Markiehoe
To address the previous complaint.
We don't know what kind of hellacious fight Superman and Reactron had after Supergirl passed out.
Reactron could have just took off to gain the high ground and Superman could have chased him.
My complaint was why didn't Supergirl chase him after their first encounter?

I do agree that IM chats are impersonal and a nod to the 21st century.
A clever plot device to show that Superman does talk to Supergirl but does keep his distance.

Plenty to love in this episode.
Lots of interaction with Supergirl in costume!
I'm glad the costume is prominently featured in all three episodes so far.
I would love to see a stand alone episode with her in costume from start to finish.

In one episode they saved the character of James Olsen.
I much prefer Jimmy Olsen to James.
We saw Jimmy this week and I like him a lot.

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10 Nov 2015 13:02 - 10 Nov 2015 13:20 #45079 by lfan

five_red wrote: My review:

This was a stronger episode than either of the previous two, largely because the show seems to have hit its stride now, and the special effects were kept within the realm of what tv effects can do competently -- in other words, the wire work was limited largely to just getting from A to B.

But the episode was not without its faults. Including one major fault in particular...!

On the plus side: the story was well paced throughout, keeping a steady momentum while shifting between comedy and action more effortlessly than episode two. The main cast all turned in solid performances, and Melissa Benoist continues to improve on the high standards she set in the pilot, as she settles into the character. Cat Grant was better written this episode, with most of her best comedic material now coming from something other than bitchy put downs (the bizarre choice of beverage, the phantom buzzing overhead, etc.) Maxwell Lord became, almost from his first major scene, probably the most interesting supporting character on the show so far, largely because Peter Facinelli chose to give an understated, more natural, performance, avoiding any suggestion of melodrama (Laura Benanti, please take note!) Finally, Reactron was well realised visually, if a little two dimensional in terms of character.

On the down side: the recurring joke about Kara thinking Cat has realised her secret identity is wearing a little thin now -- perhaps give it a break for a few episodes? There's hardly been a scene between the who without something being said. It is hard enough to suspend disbelief that a woman as successful as Cat Grant (and a top gossip columnist too!) couldn't see past the glasses, without being reminded of how blind the character is at fifteen minute intervals.

Although visually Reactron worked well, his motivation and his powers were a little inconsistent. He has a pathological hatred of Superman, so he attacks Superman's cousin Supergirl -- fine! Got that! But then why does Reactron run off when Superman actually shows up? Kara is semi-concious, she poses no threat.

Also, Reactron's blast can send Kara flying when it hits her straight in the chest, so why does she stand around with feet rooted to the ground, like the proverbial barn door inviting him to zap her all the time? And why is it that a shot to the chest sends Kara reeling, but a shot to the palm of her outstretched hand merely pushes her slowly back a few inches? How does that work..?!?

The biggest problem with this episode, however, was Superman.

They tried to make Superman's appearance a weakness in James Olsen's character, rather than Kara's -- very good idea. But the way they did it was so sloppy that it backfired, and totally undermined Supergirl as a hero. Firstly, if they didn't want Kara to be undermined then the viewers needed to believe that she wasn't really beaten in the junk yard -- in other words, the viewers had to think Supes had stupidly jumped in before Kara had had a real chance to prove herself. But that isn't what happened; so the viewers are left with the impression that Jimmy was totally correct to call in Superman. Secondly, the IM chat at the end was supposed to be a cute little heart-to-heart between family, with Superman telling Kara how proud he is of her. But on screen it came off as incredibly patronising (that's the problem with internet chat, someone's true meaning often gets lost in translation.)

The impression I think they wanted to give was of a hero (Supergirl) struggling to find her feet, but who has the support of the people around her, including her absent cousin. The impression they actually gave (as I saw it) was of a hero who totally failed, and had to be rescued by the cousin, but is then patted on the head and told what a good little girl she is for trying, anyway. :(

Okay, so that one big red-n-blue screw up shouldn't overshadow what was, for 90% of its running time, a very entertaining and solidly written piece of superhero drama. If this is an example of the kinds of episodes we'll get in future (Supes thing aside) then CBS' Supergirl should be a really enjoyable ride.


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Agree with your main points about the cast and acting this episode, especially Cat who I'm liking better with each episode. Maxwell Lord, as you said, also looks interesting and cannot wait to see more of him. Melissa is simply Supergirl, as she really does a fantastic job of playing the unsure but determined heroine. Physically, she's looking better and more like Supergirl with every episode. I think, though, the writers should lighten up on her "what Supergirl is thinking" soliloquies with Cat. As R5 pointed out, its pretty amazing Cat hasn't figured it out, but with Kara constantly sticking up for her and voicing "what she thinks Supergirl meant" certainly would raise a red flag for anyone. Though he tends to be getting overshadowed (probably intentionally) by James, I love Wynn. His not-so-subtle despair and disappointment that Kara doesn't reciprocate his feelings give great balance to his more comedic moments (find out Clark is Superman). Look forward to delving in more on his character and their relationship which I'm sure will come with the introduction of the Toyman later.

As also mentioned, the VFX were better this episode, particular the falling beam as well as the melting of the lead statue which I thought was done pretty well. One thing I think they are lacking though, is conveying her superspeed. I know its yet another effect for the budget, but several of her scenes would seem more "realistic" with the incorporation of superspeed. For example, when she arrives at the pileup, she simply jogs -- not zooms -- over to the powerline to stop it from catching on fire. Similarly, in the final scene with Alex, once the news report came on, a "quick change" into costume would have been cool. Again though, nitpicking.....

While I didn't take away the same feeling as you on the whole Superman thing, my big gripe also relates to him. While it was pretty hard to understand why Superman apparently broke off almost all contact with Kara after he dropped her off at the Danvers home, now he show up, saves her life and doesn't stick around (or at least come back and make sure she is ok)?!?! The producers have a slippery slope in trying to maintain the mythos of the Kryptonian Family but still not let Superman's character overshadow hers. However, his rather unexplained absences are reminiscent of the "dead-beat Superdad" reveal at the end of Superman Returns. Superman is being borderline portrayed as kind of a dick, IMO.

Best Scenes? The opening and closing scenes, hand down. I loved the interview scene with Kara hovering above Cat, kinda illustrating her confidence and her superiority. Kudos to the way they had her moving around in the air which I thought was a nice nod to her showing off her power (along with that blast of heat vision!), as well as being intentionally done so Cat never got a good, close look at her. Then....as Cat got out her claws and made Supergirl more "vulnerable" and unsure, they had her land and even turn her back to Cat, as if cat was now the more superior one. I thought that was really well done!

Similarly, I Loved the last scene with her and Alex bonding as well. I think one of the strengths of the show is the dynamic between them which I look forward to them exploring and leveraging more and more as the season progresses. It has been written in the press that Melissa and Chyler are like sisters on the set and the chemistry really shines forth on the screen. Love the special shoutout to watching "Homeland" when she flies out (for those not familiar, Homeland starred David Harewood as the Director of the CIA in the first season.....as well as guest starred a topless and brunette Melissa Benoist as a harem/escort candidate )

Next week seems to be a filler/character-building episode from what I've seen with her "juggling her role as Supergirl while looking after Cat's kid". I'm guessing it will delve more into the characters of Cat, Maxwell, and the son while also giving Kara more opportunities to "save the day with normal hero stuff" rather than face another super-powered baddie (though I might be totally wrong).

To the cast and crew of Supergirl, keep them coming!!

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10 Nov 2015 14:16 #45080 by YAGS
I'll disagree with five_red saying that the chat with Supes at the end came off as patronising. His line about her beating a foe that he was never able to defeat kinda saved that one, though it was close.

My bigger issue with that scene is that they're talking about their secret identities on a hackable electronic medium. Even barring outright hackers, some companies keep an automatic log of employee computer use. What would CatCo's IT department think if they ever audit Kara Danvers' computer usage? I wouldn't expect them to talk about such secrets on the phone, for the same reason. Save secret conversations for face to face. I guess this is a reflection of the fact that I work in IT and understand how these things work.

Another "fridge logic" thing I thought of after the fact - How did Winn know so much about Reactron's powers when he first looked into him? He was rattling off details about "the chest plate does this", etc. If nobody even knew who Reactron was, then the details of what his tech does wouldn't be known, either.

Every episode has at least a couple of logical loopholes like this that just don't work. Thinking of some of my other favorite action/drama shows of the past, where the plots and details were usually a lot closer to bullet proof, this show just doesn't stack up.

All in all, I keep hoping this show improves, but between the loose logic and relatively boring and predictable plotlines, it's just not there yet. But it's got potential, and a lot of shows take a while to warm up. I just hope CBS gives the show time to "grow its beard".

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10 Nov 2015 19:39 #45083 by shadar
Mostly agree with other commenters... show is progressing but slowly.

The one thing that bothered me was how they were pushing the Kara/Jimmy relationship forward and cutting Winn out. They were forcing a bit of a romantic angle, but after giving the viewers a tiny taste, they toss in Jimmy's old flame, Lucy. That was premature. The audience barely cares at this point. They should develop the romance to a point of some real feelings before dumping the old girlfriend into the mix. So it kind of fizzled. And now they've got to live with that.

But I suspect CBS is pushing the "more romance" button. Eventually the developers will have to respond more strongly.

By the way, the dancing scene at the party was weak. Do these people really not know how to dance?

Also, they had a big chance for a scene where Cat puts all the waitresses in a SG costume and then insists Kara do the same. She would find a way to refuse, but it would further tickle the "Cat's going to eventually figure it out" theme.

On that point... if Clark Kent can hide behind a suit and glasses for decades, even among people who see both he and Superman frequently, then we have to accept that same comic book trope for Kara as well. But... the big but. That only worked because Clark was this mild-mannered bumbling fool of a Kansas hick who nobody respected. Lois' lackey. If Clark and Kara become strong and assertive people in their disguises, then the secret identity thing will fail. So they have to keep Kara as a nerdy, awkward young woman who lacks confidence. The show started there just fine. But I sense they are building too much strength into Kara's role. That's not how the disguise thing works. She really does inhabit two very different identities, certifiably schizoid, but the way the show is blending those identities is concerning. I think that takes them somewhere they don't want to go.

Don't get me started on the "upstairs Supergirl office" thing.

Anyway, I'm optimistically chalking this awkwardness up to a new show. These episodes were filmed some time ago, and the cast was still getting comfortable with their roles and each other. Writers are still sorting out which paths to pursue. Which is to say, there is hope it will get better with time.

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10 Nov 2015 19:59 #45084 by castor
There is no way that Supegirls costume would really work...

and I kinda like the fact that kara seems abondently aware that it doesn't. The kinda of scared but embarassed look she gives in a lot of scenes when it comes up is pretty funny. The Stuff with Cat in general is a lot of fun(flockhart is really quite good at this that), and if there going to go with the idea that her secret identity is basically her-well its something.

Superman seems abondently a drag on the show. i am going to guess there going to do the obiwan, Dumbledore bit and have him go out-but yeah he doesn't help the story there telling here. Every damm refrence to the guy is both lazy storytelling and makes her story seem smaller. Ahh well

And the general plotline-well i hope they go to non related villains soon cause it doesn't really help things at here at all. If they can figure out a way without for next episode thats all for the better, cause much of the show around it-is great.

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10 Nov 2015 21:46 #45089 by kikass2014
While I understand the points made so far in this section, I personally never really delve that deeply into these series. I mean, its not like the writers are plotting Sherlock or writing Shakespeare. Sure there has to be a base standard, but I think the show is above that by a mile.

The characters are developing well imo, there seems to be some really nice chemistry between the cast and there seems to be some sort of overarching story arc playing out. I don't mind the stuff with Superman, as long as they don't have him popping up every other episode. And I think they sorted that out with him telling her he won't interfere again. I took that to mean that Kara is now on her own. Does this mean Superman is a "dick"? No I don't think it does. Its what SHE wanted. He's respecting that.

The "secret identity" thing I don't give any thought to. It's standard comic book cliche, and I'm fine with that.

I totally agree the opening and closing scenes were the best parts.

Overall I am really enjoying the series so far and look forward to seeing where they go with it.

Just my 2 cents on this weeks episode.

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10 Nov 2015 22:41 #45090 by shadar

kikass2014 wrote: While I understand the points made so far in this section, I personally never really delve that deeply into these series. I mean, its not like the writers are plotting Sherlock or writing Shakespeare. Sure there has to be a base standard, but I think the show is above that by a mile.

The characters are developing well imo, there seems to be some really nice chemistry between the cast and there seems to be some sort of overarching story arc playing out. I don't mind the stuff with Superman, as long as they don't have him popping up every other episode. And I think they sorted that out with him telling her he won't interfere again. I took that to mean that Kara is now on her own. Does this mean Superman is a "dick"? No I don't think it does. Its what SHE wanted. He's respecting that.

The "secret identity" thing I don't give any thought to. It's standard comic book cliche, and I'm fine with that.

I totally agree the opening and closing scenes were the best parts.

Overall I am really enjoying the series so far and look forward to seeing where they go with it.

Just my 2 cents on this weeks episode.

Peace.

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I think one of the key differences between this audience and most audiences is many of us are involved in content generation for this genre. That means we naturally dig in fairly deeply into how things are done, and we question everything. We also have many ideas how to do things, often for the better.

The result is that we can be critical of how the writing and directing is handled because we are always thinking of the best ways to do that in our own stories, videos, etc. I think that gives us the ability to both enjoy the show and to also be vocal about problems and ways to improve it.

Comic book doesn't mean checking your brain at the door. Tropes need to be analyzed and reexamined and redone to make them more realistic, even as we're grinning from ear to ear.

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10 Nov 2015 23:26 #45092 by mo
Best episode so far in my opinion.

I'm in it for the action and for MB looking amazing, being Super and getting into kick ass fights as Supergirl and on those fronts I have not been disappointed :-)

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10 Nov 2015 23:36 #45094 by mo

mo wrote: Best episode so far in my opinion.

I'm in it for the action and for MB looking amazing, being Super and getting into kick ass fights as Supergirl and on those fronts I have not been disappointed :-)


I should add I have also been enjoying some of the comedic elements and dare I say it, the relationships developing :)

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10 Nov 2015 23:58 #45095 by jdrock24
I've said from the beginning that my only concern about this show was how they were going to handle the Superman problem. It still doesn't seem like they are doing a very good job.

They need to get rid of him by sending him into space or something. His shadow is really dragging down the series.

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11 Nov 2015 00:21 - 12 Nov 2015 16:45 #45096 by castor
As a guy who produces a fair amount of content for the site and other projects can apreaciate it . I have been accused of focusing more on the relationship stuff and stuff like that rather then the kicking and the punching. I do apreciate it though as much as anyone else though

After a couple of episodes i will state this-this is very early but will go with me

Humor-A- This is if nothing else at times a really funny show.Cat Winn, at times James all produce really good material which Benoist really plays off well-and helps make her a sweet funny character. She is likable great presence in the center, and the show does a good job of finding a balance between how ridiculus her situation is(yeah there is no way her secret identity works and she know it) and the serious side of it.

(This is something indie producers should take note. you got to like the characters )

Relationship stuff-B- There setting up Triangles here is obviously, basically a double triangle of james kara winn and kara james lucy which maybe a square but i donno. James is growing me as a character more then a handsome face and superman stuff-but yeah the stuff with winn is more fun, and you kind of sympathize with him.

Similarly her relationship with her sister is better then i thought after the pilot where it felt labored with her mix of love and little bit of resentment that does feel well done.She is kind of blossoming as a character and you can see an actual relationship going there.

But there is reason people do this stuff, and it can work. I don't dislike it and the show knows thats one of the reason people watch shows, and i can respect that.


Action Scenes- B- - and this is a bit of a mixed grade. Anything that doesn't involve her fighting big baddies is great, even if its very minor and setup as joke. yes we don't see her lifting up cars- but they establish they do that and that kinda works for me.

But once they get to the fighting it gets a little more mixed bag.i get what there going for as a mix of "that hurt punches" and hyper speed attack but its clear they don't have months and years to finish this like Superman(fun fact Remember the discussion about who they where going to cast as Wonder Woman in Man of Steel 2? That happened about a year before the show was even pitched as as pilot and that still hasn't come out), but i am not sure.

I do hope they keep moving away from "These are Kryptonian class bad guys" every week. I doubt they are ever going to do that great but well thats something.

Production Values-B-As a guy who works in production, sometimes TV...this is fine. The Cinematography is light and airy if not particuarly deep , the music works, The set designs are well done( i like Cats office a lot). The special effects are obvious but well.

However TV over the last 10 years or so has gotten better at looking great. i am not a huge fan of Mad Men or Breaking Bad, but i can tell you they look amazing. Even knowing that they have have a tight production schedule here, have to hide special effects, and a character who yeah probabbly has a lot of stunts and CGI...its pretty good. and thats what i wll go for . But yeah for Example Blindspot is a much better looking show.

I think part of this is todo with there editing system-there is a lot of scenes in most episodes a lot more then traditional shows-and i am guessing a similar schedule-and the zippy pace works for it-but yeah.

I do like to compare the show to Lois and Clark-which after watching some of it is obvious where the special effects are in a lot of cases to-but its a little more tactile for the practical tricks they did, and the cinemtography a little more colorful. This at best Feels Acceptable..

But as i said in another thread-i don't think a lot of this is going to improve-and for what it is fine.

Actual Plot-D- The stuff with Astra ',i just not digging. it feels lame rip off Power Rangers, except that Rita in Power rangers got to chew the scenery more. she seems like a borring big bad and the fact that yeah shes a woman is something but not much.

The Stuff with the goverment and Henshaw are similarly borring, that seem mainly to exist to put her in place and give a lot of "Shes only a girl" lines that i get where there going but yeah. I think Henshaw is doing an okay performance-but yeah just would prefer he was out of the show.

I hope in the next couple of episodes they go to more "hey heres a villian thats not connected to any of this" or maybe even "Hey we don't need a villian this week" plotlines.

So overall...i guess after 3 episodes a B. I think they do have something here no question. Will see.
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11 Nov 2015 00:45 #45097 by kikass2014
Totally take your point Shadar :)

And if i'm honest, I'm with MO in that I came to this series really just looking to see Benoist as Supergirl kicking ass, etc. But I'm actually really liking the relationship/characterization that is developing :blush: And the humor is really good too :)

@Castor a very accurate and fair assessment of the show so far. 3 episodes in it will be interesting to see how they progress from here. I think I'm right in thinking its a 13 episode run? Could wrong. Which means we are coming up to a 1/3 of the way through the series. I would expect a major plot point to develop in the next episode.

@JDRock I think the convo they had at the end, with Supes saying he won't interfere again, maybe is their way of dealing with him being out of the picture. I'm with you in that his shadow really does hover of the show, but hopefully now that the have had him "save her", they can move on, and Kara can grow as the hero.

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11 Nov 2015 04:01 #45098 by Sarge395
Finally watched tonight. In love with MB. I think the effects are fun and the flying is very sexy. Sure the physics could be better and sure she seems to stand around a lot waiting for a blow. Reactive instead of proactive in a fight. That usually gets you killed. But this is PG comic violence in a somewhat old school vein. I am numb to all of the blood, guts, and 'realism' of today's hit shows. Not much else to say aside from all of the excellent comments already.

I did hear a local radio personality admit twice to watching the show and commenting on it. Half listening due to a co worker talking to me when it came on. He was talking about millennials and admitted that he liked the show. An older 50 something guy. A few days ago I saw a very cute short blonde with a yellow t-shirt on going to work out. Had a Charlie's Angel theme but surrounded by the 'S'. It is a good time to be alive for us SWM fans!

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12 Nov 2015 21:03 #45132 by andyf
Did anybody else catch the Homeland reference? Right before Kara flies off at the end of the last scene, she says she doesn't want to miss Homeland, the Showtime series.

That's an in joke from the writers. Benoist made one of her first tv guest spots on that shows first season as an escort hired by a middle eastern diplomat. Her infamous topless scene.

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13 Nov 2015 02:35 #45136 by lfan

andyf wrote: Did anybody else catch the Homeland reference? Right before Kara flies off at the end of the last scene, she says she doesn't want to miss Homeland, the Showtime series.

That's an in joke from the writers. Benoist made one of her first tv guest spots on that shows first season as an escort hired by a middle eastern diplomat. Her infamous topless scene.


Yeah, that was like one of my favorite moments. David Harewood also starred that season as the Director of the CIA....

ElF

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13 Nov 2015 04:00 #45141 by andyf
Your'e right about Harewood. I forgot all about that.

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