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Season 2 x 05 Spoilers & Discussions Crossfire

21 Oct 2016 13:41 #50820 by five_red
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“Crossfire”— (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

SUPERGIRL TAKES ON A RUTHLESS NEW GANG — Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) must beat a ruthless new gang who has been armed with dangerous new alien technology. When Cadmus sends a video to the DEO, the team realizes Cadmus is the one staffing the criminals for a secret mission. Meanwhile, Kara (Melissa Benoist) gets Mon-El (Chris Wood) a job as an intern at CatCo, James makes an important decision and Lena (Katie McGrath) invites Kara to attend one her fundraisers. Glen Winter directed the episode written by Gabriel Llanas & Anna Musky-Goldwyn (#205). Original airdate 11/7/2016.


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06 Nov 2016 20:17 #51083 by Random321
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Supergirl.tv and CWTV has a new teaser up. Based on the earlier teaser I was afraid James was going to get extra "Guardian" powers via Supergirl using the alien looking ray guy ala Livewire in season 1. I only say "afraid" because only PSW is allowed to do such easy plot lines <cough>. Based on the new video footage - maybe that's not the case.

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07 Nov 2016 13:11 #51093 by fats
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08 Nov 2016 12:33 #51100 by KarkClent
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Okay so they are really pushing hard for Alex and Maggie to be together. Also, that ending got me really shook but it all makes sense.

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09 Nov 2016 13:03 #51123 by Markiehoe
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Why go to all the trouble of teasing Jimes' Hero name when you just go and announce it all over social media?

Honestly I don't understand this whole spoiler methodology we get here.

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09 Nov 2016 15:50 #51127 by TwiceOnThursdays
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Markiehoe wrote: Why go to all the trouble of teasing Jimes' Hero name when you just go and announce it all over social media?

Honestly I don't understand this whole spoiler methodology we get here.


The people writing the episode and the people running the marketing and social media aren't the same people. They also have different goals.

I do wish that they'd line up things, and not stomp on setup in the episode.

A recent Arrow was partially ruined for me as I saw the name of the guest hero. it was still one of the better episodes, but knowing the guest and seeing the promo and I already knew half the plot, and part of it was supposed to be a surprise I think. So I told a friend to NOT read anything about the episode and just watch it (it happens to be one of his favorites, so I knew he'd enjoy it more if it was a surprise).

OTH, if a story NEEDS the surprise to be good, then it can be good, but not great and it won't stand up to repeated viewing.

I think this is a little surprise and doesn't matter in the long run. (i.e. That scene will play well if you rewatch it and already know.)
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10 Nov 2016 14:33 #51152 by andyf
I really liked this episode. Much better written than the last 2.

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10 Nov 2016 17:40 - 10 Nov 2016 17:42 #51156 by kikass2014
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Have to agree, this was a well written episode compared to the previous two.

Overall, really liking this season. Some good character arcs and dynamics in play.

Peace.

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P.S. And the ending kinda got me too, though when I saw her in the room, it clicked seconds before she mentioned it.
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12 Nov 2016 17:25 #51198 by shadar
Finally got around to watching this episode, and enjoyed most of it. The Lena and Cadmus link was typical Luthor stuff. I was waiting for that given we all know what the Luthors are like.

The sexual innuendo is fun, both the Lena / Kara / SG thing, which will likely get complicated, and the very believable and very nicely written and acted Maggie / Alex interplay.

Then there was the Mon El and Miss Tesmacher moment in the utility room, with a veiled hint of Niven's Man of Steel Woman of Kleenex moment. "Mike" is going to be an interesting character now that he gets to do what he wants to find his place on Earth. Likely it won't be anything Kara approves of.

(Although I will say that Kara's reaction to sexual situations, from the beginning of Season 1 to now, is a bit childish. She's ready to barf every time things get remotely sexual. Not sure why they exaggerate her reactions like that unless they are positioning her for some discoveries about herself. Maybe they'll throw a little Laural Gand xenophobia about intimacy into the mix.)

The really poorly written and acted character is James. He's not the kind of person Cat would have put in charge. The hard-bitten editor (don't remember his name) that Kara had issues with in previous show had a Perry White vibe and was very believable for someone leading a media company. But James is a total fail. Nice people don't have that kind of job or act that way. Very unbelievable.

Then there's his thing about him really wanting to be a superhero and all that. Weak. Not convincing. Everything involving James is a fail for me, but the rest of the show is quite entertaining now. A lot of good writing outside of James.

I like the fact that they are doing deeper development of more subplots and characters than just Kara, and the show will be richer for it when they fold all these subplots back together.

I'm also OK with a lesser role for J'onzz. I don't think he's a great character and his writing is also weak. Maybe the writers can't handle male roles very well. But with the good writing in all roles involving female characters, it makes up for it. Mostly.

One last minor gripe. They keep making SG weak. Having to be saved by someone else. She should be the one saving everyone else when they get in trouble. I know what they are trying to do, but I think they've gone overboard.

At this point I'm finally ready to say that the move to CW was a good one.

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12 Nov 2016 18:30 #51200 by kikass2014
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The hard-bitten editor (don't remember his name) that Kara had issues with in previous show had a Perry White vibe and was very believable for someone leading a media company.


That would be Snapper Carr I believe. Biography

And I agree, so far I think he would have been a more reasonable choice, but gotta give Jimmy something to do :P

Peace.

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12 Nov 2016 20:30 #51208 by shadar

kikass2014 wrote:

The hard-bitten editor (don't remember his name) that Kara had issues with in previous show had a Perry White vibe and was very believable for someone leading a media company.


That would be Snapper Carr I believe. Biography

And I agree, so far I think he would have been a more reasonable choice, but gotta give Jimmy something to do :P

Peace.

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I always wished they'd portray Jimmy in the traditional sense. A sidekick who's a kickass new photog who needs to be saved once in a while when he gets in too deep.

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12 Nov 2016 21:25 - 12 Nov 2016 21:29 #51209 by kikass2014
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^ Totally agree.

I'm not really feeling this "Olsen as a hero" arc they are painting. Like you said, I too found his motivation to be weak and not very well played out.

Guess its just one of those arcs that I won't pay attention to this season (like the Kara-James love triangle last season). Luckily, there seems to be a few good arcs shaping this season - Kara/Lena; Alex/Maggie; even Jon/Meghan. And ofc the whole Cademus arc. So plenty to look forward too :D

Peace.

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13 Nov 2016 13:45 #51219 by castor
In fairness the "Jimmy Olsen is a (fill in the blank)" is a story that has a long somewhat stupid history in the comic. There was about a 5 year period where most of the issues where Superman torturting helping jimmy as the most fucked up shit happened to him. The Most Fucked up shit. Trying to duplicate it is something.

The problem is the same as why they largely abandoned it in the comics-its not superman-or this case supergirl. And it can distract from the story.A lot of the theroy at the time was that most of the audience for supergirl comics was kids, so it makes sence to have a kid character-but it never quite worked. And Supergirl herself is really presented as the viewpoint character.

If you look at IMDB Merced Brooks is the second lead of the show.I think you could make a case last Year he was a bigger actor then Mellissa Benoist. The desire to give him something to do on the show is important-cause well he doesn't actually have that much. If hes not the shows rommantic lead(which last year he did okay, but nothing so spectacularly)...Well what he is on the show. A lot of TV shows have this kind of problem. They have a character but don't necessairly have a reason for him to be on the show any more. The assistant hero stuff is often done by Alex, the Friend and Confidant is done by Winn.

But you know let it figure it out-i doubt this is a long plotline, and well its better then turning him into an insect.

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13 Nov 2016 16:25 #51228 by Markiehoe
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If they turned james into an insect I would be OK with that.
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