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ace191 wrote: Let me tell you about soul crushing. Years ago Argo and I poured our hearts and souls along with our wallets into a major work, TSOS. I was sure that that we were going to win, right up to the moment that I read "Birthright" by LFAN and CF. I knew it would be close (which I think it was) but I also knew that they were going to win which they did.
I almost won by default once, but I think it was DKC who put in an entry just under the deadline.
I'll have to check, but I don't think DKC partipated to the team assignment workshop.
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Seriously though, I will read them all first.
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ace191 wrote: Let me tell you about soul crushing. Years ago Argo and I poured our hearts and souls along with our wallets into a major work, TSOS. I was sure that that we were going to win, right up to the moment that I read "Birthright" by LFAN and CF. I knew it would be close (which I think it was) but I also knew that they were going to win which they did.
I almost won by default once, but I think it was DKC who put in an entry just under the deadline.
We seem to have different definitions of soul crushing. Reading a rival story and finding it on par or better than your own story, which is then mirrored in the poll results sounds rather fair and motivating to me. For what it's worth, TSOS is the better known story in hindsight.
My experience was quite different and I came to believe that the poll was more like a popularity vote for the authors involved rather than a vote on the stories. When authors can win with stories that are among the worst they produced (not going into detail here, I had more than enough trouble through that already) then it's hard to believe that the quality of the story they entered for the workshop actually mattered. In the end, with neither polls or hit counter being a good benchmark, the written feedback on a story was the most usefull way of determining whether a story was good or not. Unfortunately it's not always provided in helpful quantities.
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In my book, anyone who wins should not be eligible to participate for perhaps three or so subsequent contest cycles. Otherwise, we tend to see the same authors over and over.
After all, those winning authors can write a story for the members any time they want and get positive feedback. And they should, but not during subsequent contests.
Anyway, it's a matter of goals. To develop new writers or to encourage popular contributors to put something more out. Kind of hard to do both as potential new writers are likely to be intimidated when they know a stable of accomplished writers are going to get the votes based on their popularity and talent.
My 2 cents.
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To me, the purpose of the workshops is to inspire authors to produce content for this site that everyone can enjoy. There is no other English site like it in the world that I know of. Fats handles the technical aspects ( which seem to get more difficult every day), the moderators run the boards and the Librarian posts the stories and tags them for future searches. And you cannot beat the price and I would challange you to find a better run site or one with better content for our Genere anywhere in the world.
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I agree with Shadar though...but it gave me an idea...
What if we had 3 WS in a year. If you win you can not participate in any more WS for that year....BUT you are entered into the final WS where the top 3 authors battle it out?
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d_k_c wrote: Ive been really busy....just so I don't let it slip....what is the official dead line
Sorry, my mistake Saturday the 10th.
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Saturday the 10th
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fats wrote: WC is wrong there it's in fact
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One very important not efor all the writers who are not participating the workshop: as usual any story submitted during the 7 days after the deadline would be uploaded a week later to give time to read all the workshop entries and and to give non-workshop stories proper visibility.
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fats wrote: WC is wrong there it's in fact
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Yay!
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Dru1076 wrote: I'm in. After it giving one last read through to hopefully remove any covfefe stains, I just sent my story to Woodclaw via email.
Got it.
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I hope there will be more than two entries!
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argonaut wrote: I just sent in Team Acenaut's story.
I hope there will be more than two entries!
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d_k_c wrote: I just submitted my entry to Woodclaw. It was a fun write, looking forward to reading every one else's stories,
Ready to post it.
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Just to remind everyone that there will be a hiatus on posting new stories for 2 weeks to allow people to read the stories of the workshop, any story submitted in that time will not be published but will be kept on the server and launched at the end of the period.
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