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fats wrote: the aircraft is F16c
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Note that if they are accurate with their timelines, the F16C purchases began in 1984 and are still in service today, in many countries including the American National Guard. It would take an expert like Fats to distinguish the "C' version from others. The F16A model was flying in the later half of the 70's.
Of course, there is little likelihood that the movie would bind itself to such a geeky bit of reality, and would simply show that she once flew an American fighter plane. The F16 is the coolest fighter plane ever made (IMHO).
It's undoubtedly a pure coincidence that the F16C planes shown in the movie entered USAF service in the same year that the Wonder Woman movie is being set in. 1984.
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I got this off someone reply to Gail Simone, but it's on news sites now too.
screenrant.com/captain-marvel-poster-easter-egg/
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TwiceOnThursdays wrote:
fats wrote: the aircraft is F16c
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So if I'm reading things right, the F-16 is from 74, and introduced in 78. The F-16c entered production in 1984 (according to wikipedia). Though it seems there are variations (Block 25, 30/32, 40/42, and the curent 50/52). The latest variations seems to be from the 90's.
So that's tagging her military memorys as no older than late 80's likely. Not quite sure when "in the 90's" the movie is set, but that gives a fair amount of leeway in the timeline for her to spend with the Kree. It could easily be a decade or more. If it's a late model F-16c, then the timeline is a more more tight as that's early 90's (93), the movie would have to be late 90's to give her five years with the Kree.
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The F16c looks the same depending on what block was fitted, the blocks are all internal upgrades to the aircraft, the big problem in determining when the movie is set based on the F16 is that it's been flying from the 80 - today, so that makes it hard if not impossible, you would be better looking at the cars.
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fats wrote:
TwiceOnThursdays wrote:
fats wrote: the aircraft is F16c
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So if I'm reading things right, the F-16 is from 74, and introduced in 78. The F-16c entered production in 1984 (according to wikipedia). Though it seems there are variations (Block 25, 30/32, 40/42, and the curent 50/52). The latest variations seems to be from the 90's.
So that's tagging her military memorys as no older than late 80's likely. Not quite sure when "in the 90's" the movie is set, but that gives a fair amount of leeway in the timeline for her to spend with the Kree. It could easily be a decade or more. If it's a late model F-16c, then the timeline is a more more tight as that's early 90's (93), the movie would have to be late 90's to give her five years with the Kree.
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The F16c looks the same depending on what block was fitted, the blocks are all internal upgrades to the aircraft, the big problem in determining when the movie is set based on the F16 is that it's been flying from the 80 - today, so that makes it hard if not impossible, you would be better looking at the cars.
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In this case it gave me what I wanted ... the oldest date it could be (not the newest). The movie has plenty of leeway to play with the timeline. It's pretty cool that the plane has been operational that long.
You get the same problem with cars. Cars can be on the road for a long time, so you have to look for the most modern car (though often that's a flub).
Another date would be the prices on the front of the blockbuster.
There seems to be a shot of what I think is the Metro Rail in LA, which was built in 1990. That's a checkpoint for the Captain Marvel section of the movie.
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Not a single shot of Captain Marvel being Captain Marvel
She fires her energy bolts on top of the train. Does that count?
It looks like they are going to show her backstory of how she gets to BE Captain Marvel in flashbacks, woven into the main story.
And ye, I'm glad they didn't show more like most trailers do these days.
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Yes, I think that works, just showing snippets of her back story makes sense for the opening trailer.
Don't you guys know the RULES OF TRAILERS?
TRAILER 1: Tease. No plot. Lots of Voice Over. Don't give them what they want, but make them want more.
TRAILER 2: More plot. Less Voice Over. More action. Give them what they want. Show them that 1 big Special Effects Shot that you finally finished.
TRAILER 3: Enough plot to explain to people who are not familiar with the subject matter, cuz you gotta fill those seats! Make them say "OH SHIT!!!!"
Venom did this perfectly. Expect Trailer #2 to have "that big SFX" shot.
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kikass2014 wrote: 11 million views in 10 hours and generally positive buzz. Not bad for a character most ppl didn't even know existed
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I think the entire MCU catalog (except maybe Captain America and the Hulk appearing in Avengers) counts that way. Definately so for Ant-Man, Guardians, Dr. Strange, and Black Panther. Iron Man and Thor were well known to anyone who has read a passing Marvel comic ... but that's not most people.
Before Iron Man I would think that most adults would have a hard time naming Marvel characters ouside of animation (X-Men, Spider-Man, Firestar, Hulk) or a VERY LONG pedigree (Captain America, and even then, likely only with older generations).
Marvel's proven that the big hurdles are:
- Make a good movie
- get attention
Now Marvel has it easier because it's got a core of comic book geeks AND a bunch of people who really liked the previous bunch of movies they've made so will pay attention to their latest movie automatically. They just have to "make a good movie". Admittedly not as easy as all that, but it's is a big relief if you know if you make a good movie it WILL produce. That's not a given!
Marvel's also learned to properly weaponize it's actors and twitter, and do so w/o stopping them from being humans (they're not just marketing machines, they just do that as well). It's no accident Brie Larson tweeted this to prep everyone today. It was a new story yesterday and just primed everyone for today. It's a well oiled machine that knows what to do.
Now the millions of hits it's getting is another story which generates more buzz.
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Which is simple is essence like you say - make a good movie and people will see it.
There is always a little trepidation, certainly with me and my circle of comic book nerds, whenever they bring a new character into the fold. How will the general public react? What will their take on it be? Etc.
It was the same with Guardians, the same with Dr. Strange and Ant-Man. Characters who, like you mention, weren't household names.
But for sure, Marvel know how to present and make their films - cast, marketing, their use of social media, all spot on so far.
The biggest benefit I feel they have is, they have built enough good will among the general public, that movie goers will give them a chance at whatever they make.
Hopefully the trend will continue
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Bert wrote: Not a single shot of Captain Marvel being Captain Marvel. Zero. Costume morph at the end, but otherwise, nothing. Perhaps the movie name should be "The Events Leading Up To The Birth Of Captain Marvel"?
She seems to have her powers throughout the movie other than flashbacks, so I don't know what you are saying. She falls from really high up and walks away and is shown using Energy bursts.
The last shot isn't a costume morph either, she's just powering up but is clearly in blue/red not the Kree Green at the start of the shot. It's also the first trailer! They really shouldn't give EVERYTHING away.
Yeah, that's fair. I was talking about seeing her in action in the blue suit as Captain Marvel proper. That's what I was looking forward to seeing, so I was disappointed when I didn't see it. The train scene was okay, but it was very brief with no hint at who she was fighting. I guess, with the long wait for the first trailer and the high degree of interest, I'm a bit underwhelmed by what they put together. I'd love to be proved wrong on this because I really want a strong showing for this movie so Marvel will feel free to release more female led films, but I'm not getting a great vibe from this.
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The teaser trailer does a good job using a very small bit of footage to great effect. (her origin is is almost told completely in the unordered snippets!)
Blockbuster changed their logo from Blockbuster Video to Blockbuster in 1994.
The Metro Blue Line (the train in the trailer) started operation in 1990 and was fully operational in 1991.
Apparently her Nine Inch Nails shirt is pre 95, as that is when the band switched to a darker more metal logo appearance.
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Monty wrote: Joint cinema release in the UK & US on March 8th 2019.
E.T.A. The joint cinema release worked quite well with Gal's Wonder Woman! Something I'm sure the producers have thought of..
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...March 8th 2019...
International Women's Day. Another thing I am sure they have thought of when picking the date
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Yup, Marvel don't mess about with their films. Apparently anything you need is provided.
Tom Holland had a great story. When he was prepping for Spiderman, as a joke, he said it would be a good idea if he (being British) enrolled in an American school, to see how they act. 'Cause he just wanted to goof around and see what it was like.
Marvel enrolled him in a school and he went there undercover for a few days I believe
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And i bring this up becuse pretty much all of the marvel movies-even Stuff Like Black Panther which isn't really a comedy, at least tries to sell the movie a little bit on comedy.
I get that the concept in 2018 of Blockbuster can be considered a joke-but i donno. But the central feature of the MCU so far has been its a little bit silly. For a movie that features at least a cameo from the straight up comedy Gaurdains of the Galaxy-that seems a touch. There isn't even a final stinger joke.
This isn't a bad thing, and obviously not indicitive of the final movie. But thats a something.
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castor wrote: This isn't funny.
And i bring this up becuse pretty much all of the marvel movies-even Stuff Like Black Panther which isn't really a comedy, at least tries to sell the movie a little bit on comedy.
I get that the concept in 2018 of Blockbuster can be considered a joke-but i donno. But the central feature of the MCU so far has been its a little bit silly. For a movie that features at least a cameo from the straight up comedy Gaurdains of the Galaxy-that seems a touch. There isn't even a final stinger joke.
This isn't a bad thing, and obviously not indicitive of the final movie. But thats a something.
I'm wondering, given a female lead, whether MCU will try and make it more serious than some other movies? I could see the temptation, but hope they stay with their proven formula.
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So think Face/Off; Con Air; that kind of thing. I read that they cite T2 and ID4 as some of their models.
I don't think they will change their formula. Certain Marvels films lend themselves more to humor then others. I think the tone of Capt. Marvel is more comedy-lite then say, Ant-Man or Guardians for example.
This isn't to say it will have no quips, or jokes per se. But I don't think the fact that its female-led has anything to do with it.
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P.S. I know it probably wasn't suppose to be, but Capt. Marvel clocking that granny on the bus had me in stitches when I first saw it Everything about that shot is perfect - the force of the punch, the expression on Brie's face, the reaction on the granny, and it felt so in-character, I just couldn't help but laugh out loud
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