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Thor: Love and Thunder

07 Jul 2022 02:44 - 07 Jul 2022 02:46 #74965 by Monty
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Natalie Portman picks up the mighty, heavy axe, much to her boyfriend Thor's disbelief...
 

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07 Jul 2022 02:54 #74967 by shadar
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Natalie Portman picks up the mighty, heavy axe, much to her boyfriend Thor's disbelief...
 

collider.com/natalie-portman-thor-love-a...ghty-thor-interview/
Any idea how they explain in-the-verse that she can pick it up and wield it like Thor. 

She started off as Thor's human girlfriend, the frail partner of a god.

Now she's a god too?  

Nice upgrade, but does it make comic-book sense?

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07 Jul 2022 03:37 - 07 Jul 2022 03:52 #74968 by Monty
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It reads as though Jane Foster (Natalie) in the film is gravely ill and Thor is deemed, and deems himself unworthy to wield the hammer. It is then that his girlfriend Jane steps in to raise the mighty hammer to a bolt of lightning from the Gods with what looks like a She-Ra - esque transformation.
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(There is a better image of her lightning bolt transformation, but the image file (.webp) won't read here.)

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07 Jul 2022 09:09 #74970 by Woodclaw
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It reads as though Jane Foster (Natalie) in the film is gravely ill and Thor is deemed, and deems himself unworthy to wield the hammer. It is then that his girlfriend Jane steps in to raise the mighty hammer to a bolt of lightning from the Gods with what looks like a She-Ra - esque transformation.
In the comics the transformation had an unintended consequence: Jane was dying of cancer and every time she transformed the magic of Mjolnir read the anti-cancer drugs as a poison and clleared them from her system, meaning that being Thor was killing her.
I'm not going into the whole "why she was able to lift the hammer" because the comic explanation was one of lowest point of that series.

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07 Jul 2022 11:24 - 07 Jul 2022 12:22 #74972 by Monty
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From what I have read online, Natalie Portman has built herself up from a skinny waif actress into a muscle carrying heroine to fulfill the role.
Perhaps similar to Lynda Carter's fitness workouts when she played Wonder Woman, but far more intense for Natalie to achieve her goal.
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07 Jul 2022 13:55 #74973 by erikphandel
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Let's not delude ourselves, you can go check out her interviews and photos from the premiere. Those are not her muscles, those are CGI

As for Shadar's point, no, it doesn't make any sense

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07 Jul 2022 14:30 #74974 by derekh48
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just seen this in the cinema. not a bad film with a few alterations to the comic story line. the two end credit sequences were predictable but still enjoyable. nice if you just wanna go turn your brain off and watch a fun film once

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07 Jul 2022 16:59 #74979 by HannWar111
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Are there any good feats of strength moments from Jane?
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08 Jul 2022 18:00 #74997 by Monty
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I watched the film today at the cinema and I have to say it was disappointing. Halfway through I was thinking 'this is a blend between or cross between TV's Supergirl and a Disney production.'
There's a lot more of him than there is of her in the film, although he is the lead character in the title, so that can be justified I suppose. As mentioned earlier, how she gained her powers was never explained - It just sort of happened!
I went to see Wonder Woman 1984 two or three times and each time, the cinema was mobbed, packed out. I think there were a handful, possibly ten paying customers today for Thor.
When you start looking at your watch during the movie and thinking 'when is this going to end?' you sort of know that this isn't good.
I def don't recommend it.

 

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08 Jul 2022 23:30 #75001 by d_k_c
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Sorry…..you saw WW 1984……3 times?

Did you think it was good?

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08 Jul 2022 23:41 #75002 by Monty
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Sorry…..you saw WW 1984……3 times?

Did you think it was good?
Yes, I saw it at the cinema at least two or three times. There was always something new to pick up on Wonder Woman 1984, and I have watched it again on cable. It is more than likely the finest superheroine movie ever made.
Far, far better than the drivel I sat through today on thor.
 
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09 Jul 2022 02:40 #75004 by tsuper
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I don’t think I can ever really like 84 but I get where you’re coming from ‘cause you get what you want you get two ladies fighting out with super powers. My problem is I can’t get over the fact that essentially she does the old Clockwork Orange with a dude because he’s possessed by the ghost of her ex lover who died. Pedro Pascal is doing a good job thou.

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09 Jul 2022 02:49 #75005 by talk2sparky
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Check out set photos. Those are her arms. Just because she stepped down the training after the film, doesn’t mean it’s not her work. Look at Evans or Hemsworth at premieres. They’re pretty skinny compared to the movie.

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09 Jul 2022 05:16 #75006 by ty11007
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i just watched the film. it was explained how or why she can pick up the hammer. its explained in a flash back part. dont want to give spoilers, the movie its self bla. ssve money and wait for digital release.

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09 Jul 2022 10:40 #75009 by d_k_c
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I think when it comes to taste in movies, stories, books ….it’s a great thing that there’s such diversity.

And there clearly is …… if people believe that ww84 was even remotely an okay film
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09 Jul 2022 10:52 #75010 by d_k_c
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I’ll just leave this here

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09 Jul 2022 13:20 #75013 by kikass2014
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On the topic of Natalie Portman and her arms, I love how people are jumping up and down saying those are CGI arms (because of some tracking dots seen in a BTS video).

Here's the thing from what I've seen and heard.  Natalie certainly put in the work to gain some mass and build (you can tell from the set photos).  Sure, she isn't going to have arms like Hemsworth, but I would be very surprised if a woman of her frame did tbh.

Also, she has said in at least one interview I've seen, that she DID have help from "Marvel magic" as she put it.  So shes not exactly saying that its all her to be fair.

I've still yet to see the film, but this was one topic that seemed to come up a lot with regards to it on the net. 

Look forward to seeing it.  But not expecting a huge deal after the fail of Dr. Strange 2 (which I was also hyped to see from the trailer, only to be bait and switched).

Yes, I saw it at the cinema at least two or three times. There was always something new to pick up on Wonder Woman 1984, and I have watched it again on cable. It is more than likely the finest superheroine movie ever made.


Personal taste aside, I have to completely disagree with you Monty.  WW84 is a terrible film, which does not make sense at all.  Terrible story, terrible acting, terrible directing.  I could write an essay on how bad this film was. The one good thing I can probably say about it is Pedro Pascal was great in it.

But if you like the film, enjoy.  Nothing wrong with that.   I would however argue to the death about it being a good film :) 

Peace.

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09 Jul 2022 13:35 - 09 Jul 2022 16:11 #75014 by Monty
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Ok, you are right, I was getting my Wonder Woman's mixed up :)
The earlier version featuring Gal Gadot fighting in the trenches and kicking off against armoured trucks was the Wonder Woman film I was thinking of.
Apologies.
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09 Jul 2022 17:33 - 09 Jul 2022 17:39 #75015 by shadar
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Ok, you are right, I was getting my Wonder Woman's mixed up :)
The earlier version featuring Gal Gadot fighting in the trenches and kicking off against armoured trucks was the Wonder Woman film I was thinking of.
Apologies.
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That makes sense. The first WW was pretty good and worth rewatches. The sequel was a bad example of trying to jam well-liked actors/characters back into roles they have left behind, not to mention 'sequel-ism' in all its worst ways.

If you are going to exploit the viewers' emotional response to Steve's death as a principal motivation for Diana in Movie 1, you can't cheat and bring him back in Movie 2 and squeeze that lemon dry a second time.

Not sure who came up with that bad idea, but it sure feels like a studio financial 'brainstorm' that got forced on the writers and director. At least I hope so, because Patty Jenkins has done some good work in the past, and I hope she will in the future. 

Whatever the case, it drained a lot of energy out of the franchise. 

As far as Love and Thunder, I'm happy waiting for it to stream... whenever. No hurry. 

In the meantime, I'm more interested in dreaming about a traditionally Asgardian male version ofThor and a young Kara Zor El crossover, where they are romantically involved. I think that could be a lot of fun and sexy as hell. But it will never happen -- unless in the pages of the SWM storybook. But that's why we write stories. 

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09 Jul 2022 19:13 #75016 by algae2k
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Spoiler warning and tags if you must, but is there an actual transformation in the movie between Jane and her Mighty Thor form?

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09 Jul 2022 19:33 #75017 by erikphandel
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Spoiler warning and tags if you must, but is there an actual transformation in the movie between Jane and her Mighty Thor form?
Warning: Spoiler!

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09 Jul 2022 20:15 #75018 by algae2k
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Well... that's sad (and a waste!). I guess we need to cross our fingers for deleted scenes to emerge in a while.

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10 Jul 2022 10:40 #75021 by static2097
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16 Jul 2022 02:11 #75063 by Clontarf8891a2
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Are there any good feats of strength moments from Jane?
 
Not really. She wields Mjollnir and uses it to mow down rows of baddies. That’s about it. No other lifts/bends/ feats in the movie. 

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