Throatlift by strong woman

shadar wrote:

Where does the whole "throat lift" meme come from, anyway? It's gotta have an origin. 

I've never gotten into it, so I'm a bit mystified by its great popularity on SWM. Maybe I'm the odd one out. 

Shadar

I'm fairly certain it just extends from the existence of similar feats. Earliest examples would have been most likely lifting by shirt collar or similar clothing as would be earliest demonstrated by parents picking up errant children or as would be used in some forms of martial arts where a skilled practitioner takes advantage of poor choices of combat outfits by their opponent. It's also something that can be seen in the animal kingdom, most well known among cats.

Because it usually requires one party to be significantly stronger or have substantially better leverage than the other it's an obvious display of dominance (especially as it compares back to parents picking up children and cats picking up kittens). Earliest examples in fiction would most likely be male v. male throat lifts in fiction like Conan, where the men may be shirtless and therefore picking up by the collar isn't really an option. If you're going to lift someone by one hand and aren't going with the extremely painful lifting point of the crotch, the throat is one of the few centrally located balanced grip points on the human body. Picking up by the arm pits is generally a two hand feat, dangling by a leg is sometimes used for a single hand pick up as well but generally if you grab someone upside down by the leg you've probably already exhibited your dominance over them.

It would have probably moved to a female v. female show of dominance first before moving to female v. male, at least in terms of fiction.

YAGS wrote:

If you like strong women, then throatlifts are just an obvious display of power over another person. It seems like a natural fit to me.

The parts I'm not into that a lot of people here get excited about are bar bending or lifting heavy objects (cars, boulders, huge weights, etc). I'm here to see women dominate other people, not inanimate objects.

I find it rare that scenes of a woman lifting heavy objects are not in some way used to convey the characters dominance over another person. Cars and boulders are usually lifted to use for destructive purposes, often showing dominance over groups of people. Lifting massive weights frequently occurs to show superiority over someone watching. In the rare instances where these lifts are done alone they pretty much exist to demonstrate the character's clear superiority over others in general such as by lifting weights that are obviously beyond the capabilities of their rivals to show the true level of their strength before they turn that strength on their rival. Often this is because demonstrating the level of their superiority through direct physical interaction with another person would result in the spontaneous death of their rival.
For example, you can't demonstrate that your superwoman is hundreds or really even ten times stronger than their opponent through a throat lift without taking it to an extreme ending. A throat lift suggests some superior strength and enough strength to lift the weight of their rival. If you demonstrated them as even ten times more powerful through a throat lift scene, that lift would have to involve throwing the rival with sufficient force to likely kill them or crushing their throat/head to paste with a single hand and not every story has a superwoman for whom this is appropriate behavior. So, the superwoman is shown to be lifting sufficient weights to make her strength clear to the reader, then uses a casual display of their strength to throat lift and dominate their opponent.

Avalian wrote:

powerwoman00 wrote:

Is there any strength video or TL in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law ?

Only one episode currently available and no TL in it no. Plenty of strength scenes including throwing a boulder, ground smashing, She Hulk performing the classic hulk super clap with an interesting change, super leaps and destruction of objects.

Trying to download a link to 'she-hulk-attorney-review-female-empowerment-has-never-been-so so-much-fun' @ theguardian.com. The link won't load but this looks, and reads really good.

Is there any strength video or TL in She-Hulk: Attorney at Law ?

There's quite a few strength scenes in it, usual "hulk" training   The fight with Bruce is fun  

On the whole, I enjoyed this a LOT   It was great fun to watch and captured the famous Byrne runs spirit for sure.

Looking forward to seeing how this develops

Peace.

/K

P.S. And Disney must have spent a boatload of cash to fix those FX because She-Hulk looked really good for the most part imo

Avalian wrote:

shadar wrote:

Where does the whole "throat lift" meme come from, anyway? It's gotta have an origin. 

I've never gotten into it, so I'm a bit mystified by its great popularity on SWM. Maybe I'm the odd one out. 

Shadar

I'm fairly certain it just extends from the existence of similar feats. Earliest examples would have been most likely lifting by shirt collar or similar clothing as would be earliest demonstrated by parents picking up errant children or as would be used in some forms of martial arts where a skilled practitioner takes advantage of poor choices of combat outfits by their opponent. It's also something that can be seen in the animal kingdom, most well known among cats.

Because it usually requires one party to be significantly stronger or have substantially better leverage than the other it's an obvious display of dominance (especially as it compares back to parents picking up children and cats picking up kittens). Earliest examples in fiction would most likely be male v. male throat lifts in fiction like Conan, where the men may be shirtless and therefore picking up by the collar isn't really an option. If you're going to lift someone by one hand and aren't going with the extremely painful lifting point of the crotch, the throat is one of the few centrally located balanced grip points on the human body. Picking up by the arm pits is generally a two hand feat, dangling by a leg is sometimes used for a single hand pick up as well but generally if you grab someone upside down by the leg you've probably already exhibited your dominance over them.

It would have probably moved to a female v. female show of dominance first before moving to female v. male, at least in terms of fiction.

Some good points, although I'm not sure about starting as a female v. female thing. 

Prior to the BBS-era of shared fan-fiction or genre-fiction in the 80's (BBS software was invented in late 70's), when personal computers were becoming available, I was not aware of paper-published stories of this type. I don't think these kinds of stories were ever published but maybe people snail-mailed typewriter-written copies to each other. There were Newsletters and early copying machines. But I was on-board as soon as specialized FemDom BBS servers appeared (electronic-publishing!!!), but I don't recall any female v. female strength throat-lift descriptions.

Everything started off to fill a vacuum that existed (or was so rare I'd never heard of it) of Female Domination of Males (FemDom). Now that I think back, throat lifts were a key feature of the genre from my first exposure.

(BTW... a piece of history I just looked up. In 1993 there were a sum total of 130 web sites on the entire world-wide Internet. Not just genre sites, but ALL sites. This was before commercial use of the Internet started. By 1995, there were 100,000.)

Anyway, I was focused on FemDom and it was not hard to find in the late 80's to early-mid-90's on BBS.  When I launched the AU as one of the earliest Internet genre sites that wasn't classic FemDom, or was at least a variation of it, it was 1994 or 1995. 

Easy to forget how recent and how fast the growth of the Net has been.
Or how little tastes in our various micro-genres have changed since then. Human nature and the nature of fantasy and all that jazz. 

Shadar
 

She hulk villain bursts into the court room at the end and throws a table at her. Could be good eventually

She-Hulk link now moved to better place...

She-Hulk link now moved

a female badass movie. very good movie like this a woman ending up with several men

Throatlift at 2:03:07https://youtu.be/OXBMCmVF7is

this one became one of my favorites it contains 2 TL and 1 collarlift, near the end there are other really cool force scenes of the girl vs soldiers and etc...

Movie name (the silecend 2015)

first TL at 53:38
second TL at 87:12
collarlift at 92:16

www.bilibili.tv/en/video/2007137405

Once upon a time 

season 2 ep 10 has TL scene.

Throatlift at 2:08:40

Hey Shadar,

I wasn't suggesting that it was in Femdom or even erotic stories that it would have been female v. female. I was suggesting that throat lift predates its use in any form of erotic fiction and is a carry over from other fiction that the writers of erotic fiction drew inspiration from.

There are definitely non erotic works that include female v. female throat lifts such as Wonder Woman, Supergirl and She Hulk comics where one superhuman female is attempting to prove her physical superiority over another.

In terms of erotic femdom fiction it would almost definitely have appeared as female v. male before female v. female because most of the early femdom fiction was F/M rather than F/F, but in terms of the origin of the trope it is a carry over from other fiction.

Avalian wrote:

Hey Shadar,

I wasn't suggesting that it was in Femdom or even erotic stories that it would have been female v. female. I was suggesting that throat lift predates its use in any form of erotic fiction and is a carry over from other fiction that the writers of erotic fiction drew inspiration from.

There are definitely non erotic works that include female v. female throat lifts such as Wonder Woman, Supergirl and She Hulk comics where one superhuman female is attempting to prove her physical superiority over another.

In terms of erotic femdom fiction it would almost definitely have appeared as female v. male before female v. female because most of the early femdom fiction was F/M rather than F/F, but in terms of the origin of the trope it is a carry over from other fiction.

I understand.  I threw the FemDom thing in because, when I thought about it, that's the first time I saw extensive used of the throat-lift meme in genre fiction. And FemDom fiction generally has a strong erotic theme, although certainly not always. 

I actually don't recall class throat-lifts employed in the comics. Instead, more "grab the clothing or cape or whatever" and lift, but maybe that qualifies per the meme. 
 
Shadar
 

First time I ever saw a throat lift (more chin lift if you want to be picky) was Supergirl with Helen Slater. Then discovered Valkeries Strength Board and Paul's Amiga's site and realised "wow! I really like this!". 

Andromeda

These episides contain TL:-
1x19 The honey offering
4x12 The spider’s stratagem (short TL)
4x13 The Warmth of an invisible Light

Thanks!!
 

Djelite1 wrote:

First time I ever saw a throat lift (more chin lift if you want to be picky) was Supergirl with Helen Slater. Then discovered Valkeries Strength Board and Paul's Amiga's site and realised "wow! I really like this!". 

Yes, Helen Slater was brilliant in that scene with the truckers with a "You have really annoyed me, now handle THIS" as she lifted the guy off the ground easily with one upstretched arm."I may be young and becoming used to my new-found SuperPowers, do you really want me to blow you both away through that fence with my SuperBreath?"...
"RROAARR!"
Then, to rub their faces in it, she silently flew off above with her other upstretched arm.



 

 E T.A  when she spun around to face the truck with glaring headlights heading towards her, she didn't bother moving out the way. What would a speeding, heavy two ton truck matter to her? Unfortunately for the guys, they stopped right away when they saw the stunning blonde facing them.

Sos mi Vida:
EP. 143
EP. 169

143 -
169 -

Easy for her - she is even smiling at her would-be burglar.


 

"a lot of people here get excited about are bar bending or lifting heavy objects (cars, boulders, huge weights, etc). I'm here to see women dominate other people, not inanimate objects"

I'm 1000% with you, Yags.

CGD wrote:

Sos mi Vida:
EP. 143
EP. 169
 

Are they comedy strong or is  there a (supernatural) reason addressed elsewhere  in the series?

Did some random seeking > The girl from 143 is running around in a wonder woman costume in ep 147

thats what i was wondering as well

How about throatlift POV photos?
You thought you could take a shortcut through an empty building, but with a rush of wind you are suddenly lifted in the air by an iron grip. You grab the slender wrist for support and it feels like warm steel.
An alien overlord female holds you effortlessly off the floor, feet dangling.    Your feeling of panic turns into fear and excitement as you smell the exotic perfume like scent of a superstrong alien.   
"Explain your presence here, squishy frail - what are doing in here?   Make it good, or you could be part of the sand box!"
 
The blonde effortlesstly holds you in the air with one hand.  You start to see little flowers and butterflies as your vision fades from lack of oxygen.
 

 

This neighborhood is exciting but I'm not sure if a chiropractor can help.   Another beauty with an iron grip holds up in the air with one hand.  All you can do is smile back and enjoy the strange perfume that overcomes your fear and doubt.    This is the perfect woman if she can lighten up on that grip.
 

The next one just stares at you like you're going to be her next meal.   This one has a firm iron grip on your arm.   It feels like having the arm clamped to a wall.   The strange perfume and those beautiful eyes have you mesmerized.